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    Back after eons, 5 days AF

    Soooooooo.....two years back I managed the fabled 'moderation' (nightly drinker since 2005/6, about 9 cans of 5% lager or two bottles 13+% wine per night/a mix), quit cold turkey, only drank on social occasions, maybe only 5/6 times a year. Felt really great, no dependence, I managed to do EXACTLY what I wanted to do, despite certain others on here being skeptical about my intentions. It was actually quite easy.

    Fast-forward to June/July last year. I do a physical job and bust my lower back, true agony, had a month-and-a-half off work, have not been able to walk properly til very recently, took me seven sessions of physiotherapy to get to about 85%, been working in extreme pain all the time....

    ...so back in August they dosed me up on Tramadol and Diclofenac, both of which didn't touch the sides...and made me feel agitated/tetchy all the time....and so, so sick in my stomach. Could barely eat. Got really depressed, pain was so bad I was hobbling about at 2mph (long legs/very fast walker/energy galore/now feeling like an invalid).

    The drugs weren't working. I felt semi-suicidal, felt I was gonna lose my job. One night, visited the supermarket to run an errand and decided to treat myself to four large bottles of Leffe Braun as a 'treat' as I love that beer and it was on offer. Four bottles later, pain is minimal and I felt gooooooooood, I actually felt amused for the first time in eons.

    SO, I found my painkiller. Drink enough alc, I'm sure I could saw one of my limbs off, no probs, such a great analgesic! I was back on the sauce every night again. I was also still taking opioids, though switched from Tramadol to 60mg Codeine Phosphate, as I tolerate it much better. Was also on 20mg Prozac for the depression....this drug was fucking me up badly, akathisia and increased depression, insane moodswings!

    My stomach felt rancid. I barely ate. Sweating/shaking all the time, feeling insane at work, head mashed, started falling out with people, lost friends, the combo of pain and all that other shit put me on a proper 'slippery slope'. Had to do something.

    Quit the Prozac first, cold turkey after 7 months. Awful withdrawal, don't recommend it but that's how I do it, took me about two months before the 'electric head' shit stopped. Quit the painkillers, too, all of them. No problems with coming off those.

    Finally, five days back, I drop the booze, again cold turkey. 3hrs sleep the first two nights, jumping to seven hours then I got nine hours last night with vivid nightmares, woke up sweating several times.

    Never have cravings for booze so I *should* be able to get back on track again, just wanna get the first fortnight out of the way first, get my sleep back.

    Apologies for the long post but it's a reference point for me, just need to ride this out, I forget that 'gap' you get in your life when you quit booze, suddenly you've got all this 'sober time' and it feels bloody odd after so long on the drink!

    Anyhoo...drinking at home...it's not good. That's me done with it.
    [I]Quit drinking nightly at home (8 yrs) at the end of Feb. One night out 8/4/2014...I am ALLOWING myself to drink when on a night out, just cos I want it that way.[/]

    #2
    Back after eons, 5 days AF

    Welcome back WW. I am on again off again too and finally come to the conclusion that moderation eventually leads to ... you know.. drinking!!

    You have nerves of steel coming off Prozac cold turkey. My sister has had awful side effects by titrating down too quickly. Now that you've given it all up, gained a bit of shut-eye, maybe the worst is over. Welcome back to the land of the living or should I say the land of too much time on your hands. I started doing the girly knitting thing and took up teaching myself how to play the keyboard in my spare time. Reading about recovery is a good past time too if you are into it.

    Stay close; we are all in this together.

    xx
    "If you do not change direction, you may end up where you are heading."
    Lao-Tzu

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      #3
      Back after eons, 5 days AF

      Aw, thanks SS

      Yup, Prozac withdrawal is, um, ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY TERRIBLE...but can be done, I've actually done it before, back in 2003, was on them two years that time so the withdrawals were *much* worse back then (lost my mind for a few months but knuckled down!)

      Yeah, it's starting to feel nice, feel more 'liquidy', not dehydrated as much...skin's better...can't wait for the better sleep, loved it before, wanna feel great for the summer, last year has been hell!
      [I]Quit drinking nightly at home (8 yrs) at the end of Feb. One night out 8/4/2014...I am ALLOWING myself to drink when on a night out, just cos I want it that way.[/]

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        #4
        Back after eons, 5 days AF

        White knuckling it is the pits. You can't imagine how much we are capable of when we set our minds to it. I just asked the server on the train for a virgin Caesar (Canadian version of bloody Mary) and I watched her pour vodka in the glass... I had to 'correct' her and thought "how easy it would be.... " Ever vigilant we are!!

        Stay close.
        "If you do not change direction, you may end up where you are heading."
        Lao-Tzu

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          #5
          Back after eons, 5 days AF

          Hey Wastrel, you have amazing willpower and i love the way you write!

          Keep posting here.. How is the back now? Alc's a CNS depressant, so in effect, it would probbly makeyour pain worse in the long term.
          One day at a time.. Sometimes it's one minute or one second at a time.. Most important thing is to look ahead and don't look back!

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            #6
            Back after eons, 5 days AF

            Thanks to both of you.

            In 18hrs it'll be a full week since I touched booze, and I'm not missing it one bit. Stomach is MUCH better already...don't feel nauseous all the time, felt like my gut was on hunger strike, or in the early stages of getting an ulcer! Back is...well, I spoke too soon...friend gave me a lift in his car last eve...he's a tiny guy, he owns a tiny hatchback car...it's LOW...and I'm tall...somehow jarred my back sinking into the seat, talk about Murphy's/Sod's Law!!!!! Absolute agony, been squirming about like a contortionist imitating a crab, was due in work tomorrow but had a day of leave to use up before April, they kindly let me have it so got a little time to rest up!

            Bar the back thing, seem to be getting more normal sleep hours in now. Changes are very subtle. Looking out of the window, sunshine seems more vivid, noticing birdsong more. Also, time runs much slower on an evening! At first this felt bad, a grind, but now I feel I have some 'possibility time', rather than get munted on booze, oblivionise myself, I now HAVE to find a means of occupying my mind, reading much more, tidying up, not vegetating the moment I get back in from work. Sounds weird, but I can feel it in my face. It feels almost normal now, not dry, sweaty, flushed, vaguely bloated, red, puffy with crispy, crusty eyelids...no dark crescents beneath the eyes. I'm kinda *pale* again...and this is only six days off!

            Was so scared of withdrawals but *seem* to be at that point where sobriety is suddenly shining brightly, I don't have to peel my sweat-sodden, dehydrated bod out the bed on a morn after both the alarms have gone off and been snoozed multiple times, I now beat those damn alarms and awake feeling pretty damn OK, 'normal', even.

            Liking this, and lots.

            @SS I'm lucky not to be getting cravings for booze that much, must be the nausea thing (I love Virgin Marys, btw, tomatoey goodness) though I was watching a YouTube gaming video and one of the reviewers was drinking a pale ale they'd brewed...looked yummy...could sorta feel it at the back of my throat...mad!
            [I]Quit drinking nightly at home (8 yrs) at the end of Feb. One night out 8/4/2014...I am ALLOWING myself to drink when on a night out, just cos I want it that way.[/]

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              #7
              Back after eons, 5 days AF

              So happy to read your post and thank you for inspiring me.
              New and you gave me hope.

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                #8
                Back after eons, 5 days AF

                WastrelWillow, so glad you are not getting cravings; still keep your guard up. Your body is thanking you by prettying itself up. Feels damn good don't it? I've been away from home and eating in restaurants; tons of carbs and the fact that I am not drinking is balancing it all out and I am not getting fatter. Yeh!!

                Keep it up and stay close. Don't make my mistake and get cocky. That's my downfall all the time.
                "If you do not change direction, you may end up where you are heading."
                Lao-Tzu

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                  #9
                  Back after eons, 5 days AF

                  WastrelWallow;1634103 wrote: o...friend gave me a lift in his car last eve...he's a tiny guy, he owns a tiny hatchback car...it's LOW...and I'm tall...somehow jarred my back sinking into the seat, talk about Murphy's/Sod's Law!!!!! Absolute agony, been squirming about like a contortionist imitating a crab!
                  Reminds me of the night i pulled i sciatic nerve and was limping around (at work of all places) like a pauper! Funny thing is that nobody noticed!

                  Still think you're a good writer, love your descriptions.
                  One day at a time.. Sometimes it's one minute or one second at a time.. Most important thing is to look ahead and don't look back!

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                    #10
                    Back after eons, 5 days AF

                    Welcome back WW!

                    Everything you went through may be just what you needed to get you to this point. I know at the time, it sucks, but looking back, I think things really happen for a reason!

                    Stick around!

                    K9
                    :heart:I love my daughter more than alcohol:heart:

                    Believe in yourself. You are stronger than you think.

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                      #11
                      Back after eons, 5 days AF

                      I'm back at 5 days too. Here we go!
                      Day 1 again 11/5/19
                      Goal 1: 7 days :heartbeat:
                      Goal 2: 14 days :happy2:
                      Goal 3: 21 days :happy2:
                      11/27/19: messed up but back on track
                      12/14/19: bad doozy but back on track

                      One day at a time.

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                        #12
                        Back after eons, 5 days AF

                        Right on Nursie!!!!

                        You know what to do...nice to meet you

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                          #13
                          Back after eons, 5 days AF

                          Sooooo....belated update! Decided to post sporadically every week or so BUT switched broadband providers, which proved to be a hassle as no online for a bit.

                          Confessions first. Back in December, agreed to attend a works award ceremony, said yes at the time, was on March 28th. I went, I had a few free bottles of Bud, about three pints, then got a Burger King (super XL bacon double cheese meal for the curious), headed home and had about six cups of tea, awoke the next day hangoverless and feeling A-OK! Had gone a month without a drink by then, absolutely no cravings to continue either that night or the next day - usually after a night out, I'd come home and chug a bit more booze. Not any more. Glad about that.

                          So, apart from that 'blip' ten days back, been fully on the wagon. I don't feel like a drinker anymore. It's not upsetting me, I can pass a wine aisle and not get that desperate 'nostalgia', that tiny-but-ubershrill voice inside saying "go on, you've had a hard day at work...might as well, eh?...". I don't feel like it, anymore, putting that dehydrating fire juice, those terrible acidics into me, even the Bud tasted dangerous after a month off, slightly fiery/malevolent, and that's Bud...one of the dullest, flattest, wishy-washiest 'beers' out there, such an inconsequential brew...and it felt *powerful*! Dang. :0

                          So, benefits of quitting for forty days:

                          Money: saving nearly a hundred quid a week. Was spending ?90+ per week on drinking home alone...I feel loaded (financially, ahem) for the first time in ages! I also don't have a constant daily minefield of empty beercans and wine bottles scattered across my floor, so on coming back in from work I no longer have the 10 minute 'crush session', where I squish my empty 500ml large cans down to fit snugly in the trash!

                          Health: this is subtler. After drinking copiously at home for a pretty much uninterrupted 8yr period, this will take longer to stabilise. My skin is much less ruddy and my stomach feels like it's not sick anymore....though I still feel a lot of nausea when eating food, I have to choose the right moment to eat bigger meals (I'd practically stopped eating on booze and I'm a tall, big guy, was wasting away!). Definite weight loss, at least 8-10lbs. Another thing is SLEEP. I'll start a new paragraph for this!

                          Right, so first week of withdraw, sleep was rough, interrupted, lacking. Second week - slightly more sleep, really irritable/emotional all the time, plus super-sad. Sleep at 7hrs+ per night starting at 3rd week but now accelerated to MEGA sleeps, in the last 60hrs since finishing my last night shift on Sat morn at 6am, I have had three sleeps totalling 32 HOURS
                          !!!

                          Four years ago, I'd've needed 2.5 bottles of red, 30mg of codeine AND a couple of Nytol to knock me out on a night, now all it needs is my head getting in contact with a pillow and I'm out, feel like Rip Van Winkle, goddamn eleven hours my last sleep, even slept through the alarms I set!!!!

                          Anyhoo, enough rambling, the positive changes are definitely occurring...however nuts they may currently seem.
                          [I]Quit drinking nightly at home (8 yrs) at the end of Feb. One night out 8/4/2014...I am ALLOWING myself to drink when on a night out, just cos I want it that way.[/]

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