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    #61
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    Sorry, GMC. Doesn't sound as if they said that AB would be dangerous for you specifically, but rather they suggested other pathways to sobriety? Seems like they could have been more supportive of your desire to quit. I think any alcohol addict who's still drinking, is closer, (or soon will be), to the dying end of the continuum, than to the living end.

    I didn't go through my doctor for the AB, just ordered online which was pretty easy. Is that an option for you? Or maybe you already have a supply on hand, and just need more support to continue taking it?

    Pie

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      #62
      AB plunge...day 1.

      Am going to ask my alcohol support worker to recommend me for acamprosate this week. Still terrified to drink. Still getting twinges. Very worrying. It's when I feel better the inner alcoholic voice will start its bloody nonsense. Sorry this seems a bit off topic.
      ?Just cause you got the monkey off your back doesn't mean the circus has left town.?

      ― George Carlin

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        #63
        AB plunge...day 1.

        Daevid, I'm currently on both acamprosate and baclofen for cravings. They work in different ways so my psychiatrist feels their effects are complementary. Acamprosate is a good drug. It isn't discussed much around here, probably because it requires abstinence to be effective. But it doesn't sound like that's going to be a problem for you. I'm sure you've heard all this before, but acamprosate simply helps restore normal brain chemistry and has no calming or anxiolytic effects. I've found psychosocial support (in my case individual and group therapy and AA/NA) to help me navigate my triggers immensely helpful. In fact, I think I remember hearing here that NHS requires it of people on acamprosate.

        Just out of curiosity, why not baclofen again? Is it just too much of a hassle to get it? It can be tough here in the USA as well. Most GPs will not prescribe it, but if you are able to find a knowledgeable addiction psychiatrist, it's not difficult to secure a prescription.
        In the middle of my life's journey, I found myself in a dark wood, as I had lost the straight path. It is a difficult thing to speak about, how wild, harsh and impenetrable that wood is. Just thinking about it recreates the fear. It is scarcely less bitter than death, but in order to tell of the good that I found there, I must tell of the other things I saw there. --Dante, paraphrased

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          #64
          AB plunge...day 1.

          Thanks Alky. I have tried baclofen on and off. Ordered a shitload of it. On one occasion, I had been drinking and taking baclofen. I woke in the middle of the night and vaguely remember trying to claw through a mirror because I was hungry and I thought there was a tin of sardines behind the reflection. That scared me.

          The doc said if I was engaged with a support worker and showed commitment, he was only then prepared to prescribe the acamprosate. I haven't had the balls to show up in AA again, the shame of relapse. Will be attending Smart Recovery though.
          ?Just cause you got the monkey off your back doesn't mean the circus has left town.?

          ― George Carlin

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            #65
            AB plunge...day 1.

            Daevid;1687380 wrote: On one occasion, I had been drinking and taking baclofen. I woke in the middle of the night and vaguely remember trying to claw through a mirror because I was hungry and I thought there was a tin of sardines behind the reflection. That scared me.
            I too found out the hard way that booze and baclofen don't mix. I totaled one pair of glasses and have damaged two other pairs multiple times because of falls I don't remember happening. I'd just wake up in the morning with a bent pair of glasses, nasty bruises, soreness and the occasional cut.

            Daevid wrote:             I haven't had the balls to show up in AA again, the shame of relapse. Will be attending Smart Recovery though.
            I wouldn't worry too much about that. They've seen it all. I was mortified when someone from my AA homegroup saw me buying fortified beer during my last relapse. She was very kind about it. She just said to me discreetly next time I saw her at a meeting "We're addicts. It's what we do."
            In the middle of my life's journey, I found myself in a dark wood, as I had lost the straight path. It is a difficult thing to speak about, how wild, harsh and impenetrable that wood is. Just thinking about it recreates the fear. It is scarcely less bitter than death, but in order to tell of the good that I found there, I must tell of the other things I saw there. --Dante, paraphrased

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              #66
              AB plunge...day 1.

              Order some online same as you Pie
              Its easier not to start than stop

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                #67
                AB plunge...day 1.

                gmc38609;1687701 wrote: Order some online same as you Pie
                Hi Gmc, Have you considered taking the AB to get yourself 30 days AF? Maybe once you get some distance from the alcohol, you can figure out what to add to your plan to get you beyond the humps you've encountered in the past.

                Thirty days of freedom might really change the landscape for you.

                Best,
                Pie

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                  #68
                  AB plunge...day 1.

                  Hi yea I started taking it again Monday.
                  Its easier not to start than stop

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                    #69
                    AB plunge...day 1.

                    gmc38609;1688232 wrote: Hi yea I started taking it again Monday.
                    Good on you, Gmc!

                    Pie :l

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                      #70
                      AB plunge...day 1.

                      Day 5 quite easy with the AB virtually impossible without how crazy is that
                      Its easier not to start than stop

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                        #71
                        AB plunge...day 1.

                        Yep, same for me. Crazy is right. Congrats on Day 5!!

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                          #72
                          AB plunge...day 1.

                          Great progress folks! I think AB is now being used in a much more positive way than decades ago. It used to be seen as a punishment. But it's not like that at all. It's an aid and the quitting ultimately comes from within ourselves.

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                            #73
                            AB plunge...day 1.

                            I've felt drawn to this thread since Six started it, and really enjoy reading posts from the current and former AB takers who pop in here. Treetops, I agree with you that the AB is but an aid, and paired with a strong inner desire to quit, it's powerful. I really want to be free from alcohol, so I view my quit positively, and don't feel deprived.

                            It is a huge change though, so I look for ways to adjust old habits to become a better person. Isolating myself is one of the old habits I'm working on, and getting to sleep in a more normal way is taking effort. It's as if the AB frees me up to tackle these things because it takes AL out of the picture.

                            I've got about an 8-month supply, so no danger of running out anytime soon. I would like to talk with my doctor about it though, when I see him in a couple of months. I didn't go through him to get it, but hope he'll approve and give me a legit prescription.

                            Anyway, that's where I am for now, 24 days in. 125 mg/day, after dinner. I hope Six and her lovely avatar return soon.

                            Pie

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                              #74
                              AB plunge...day 1.

                              How you getting on Pie?
                              Its easier not to start than stop

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                                #75
                                AB plunge...day 1.

                                gmc38609;1694364 wrote: How you getting on Pie?
                                Hi GMC!

                                Doing well here; day 38 for me. My resolve remains strong, and the Antabuse solidifies that. When life throws its curve balls, and it always does, the AB is my shield. I love this life without alcohol. I'm smiling again.

                                How are you, GMC?

                                Pie

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