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    Not how I planned on spending my weekend, but I'm glad

    Ya know, I started off writing an even longer story but I think I'll ditch that for now in favor of something more simple. I came across this forum through random web surfing the other night and it reminded me that my drinking has kind of been the elephant in the room for a long time. For reference I'm 30, female, single.

    Other than a very very bad year that ended with a (thankfully minor) case of pancreatitis, I've been able to put off thinking about it more than I probably should. Because I don't drink to blackout, don't drink at work...all the things ya tell yourself that mean you're doing just fine.

    'Cept...I had pancreatitis. And at first, I quit drinking like a sane human being. Until I started again. Red flag there, you think?

    'Cept when I started my last job (I was laid off, nothing drink related) it was 11 hour shifts and I was kind of nervous the first day in case I started having withdrawal symptoms.

    And 'cept I've started tapering off today and just having to sit here and think, "Hmmm...since I can't get into a doc, it's probably safest to taper," is also, you know, not what I'd be thinking if I was doing ok.

    So, first I want to thank the folks in this forum; I've been reading everyone's posts like crazy and it's making it easier for me to focus that I need to change. I guess I'm also maybe fishing for a little "atta girl" since I'm not ready to tell anyone close to me just now.

    I know some of my triggers for drinking, and I think after I post this I might make an actual list. I know I also have depression and anxiety issues that make me want to drink...and then the drinking makes the issues worse. I know my appetite has been all over the place for ages and ever since the pancreatitis I've been nervous about what I'm doing to myself. I know the drinking got really bad at a point in my life where I felt like I had no worth and that I've been too busy "dealing" since then to actually address those feelings.

    What I worry about most is always the possibility of a nasty withdrawal; I'm trying very hard to be gentle with myself and stick to the tapering instead of trying to rush it. I hate knowing it's at that point. I have quit that way before, though, so at least there's that.

    What I want most is to be...myself again, I suppose. I don't want to have that thought of "Hmmm, I'd like to do this weekend thing, but I'm not sure if I'll be ok if I can't drink." I want my head clear to sort out a lot of life issues that I've been hiding from dealing with. I don't want to walk away from conversations thinking, "Well, I'm not drunk and I think I made sense...but were my emotions actually on base there?" I'm also tired of worrying that I'll have a serious health issue again and then have to admit to everyone that yeah, I did start up again.

    This got long, and I'm going to apologise now if I don't come back to the thread for a bit. And I know I probably ought to post in the Nest but...I really didn't particularly plan on sorting this out just now. I was just feeling rotten about some things I'd said to a friend even though it wasn't anything awful and he insists it was fine - even if I sounded fine *I* know I was just the tiniest bit buzzed so I can't help but second guess my reactions later. And then I ended up here...I just really needed to get this typed out where I can look at it, maybe.
    I am stubborn as a pig - but changing what I'm being stubborn about!

    Cigarette Free On: 9/23/2014
    AF on: 8/12/2014

    #2
    Not how I planned on spending my weekend, but I'm glad

    LavendarBlue - :welcome:

    And also, atta girl

    It takes guts to decide to do something positive to change your life, and even more to tell others about it. You might not be ready to tell others close to you. A lot of us here can understand that completely. It's your life and your story - you'll know when/if the time is right to share with loved ones.

    As you already know, pancreatitis can be very serious, and it's good that you're treating it that way. Can your doctor help you through the withdrawal? Tapering can work, but if you're that concerned about withdrawal and you already have health concerns you've discussed with your doc, that might be the most sensible path. (Note: I am not a doctor and this is not medical advice, just my opinion).

    Regardless, you've taken a step. I hope you'll come back and at least read some more, preferably post again. The people on this site offer amazing support and a lot of us have gotten sober and reclaimed our lives here.

    :l
    Everything you want is on the other side of fear.

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      #3
      Not how I planned on spending my weekend, but I'm glad

      Thank you wagmore - also I love that pic! I have a big ol' black lab mix wondering why his "mom" seems a little off today. Also, I see I didn't bolt as soon as I posted that so yay me!

      And thank you for the reminder about the pancreatitis. Because you're right that it IS serious, but even though I know it in my head I haven't been treating it as seriously as I should have. "I'll think about that tomorrow." Just because it happened a few years ago doesn't mean it's ok and it doesn't hurt me to hear someone remind me.

      The doctor part is messy - in the US and without insurance at the moment. (Which is something else I need to sort out.) If I need it, my mother would help me out, though, I'm sure. And if I really waffled about it, I could always blame the anxiety and then talk to the doctor in private I suppose. Sorry to think out loud atcha; I know that the more of a plan I have, the better. I'm just kind of pumped at the moment that I'm doing *anything*. I could have run across the state line quick today and gotten more vodka. Instead I got -edit it's 3.2, not sure what I was thinking - beer at the gas station and actually rationed it out. I'm all irritable and twitchy but I did something, dammit.

      The other times I've quit, I had more trouble with anxiety *about* symptoms, though. So I'm giving myself a few days to a week; if it doesn't work this time or I get overly twitchy I'll have to suck it up.

      Part of it is that...I think one reason I never stayed quit before is I wasn't really doing it for myself. I was doing it because I didn't want my work affected or because my family was worried. I at least want to make sure I have it in my head to do this for *me* this time or I'm sure it'll be like any other time that I quit and then fell back in.

      Anyway, thanks again for answering. And sorry for being rambly, unsurprisingly I'm having trouble sleeping since I started cutting back last night. I'm in that weird place of being excited 'cause the lightbulb dinged that none of my other stuff is going to get better if I keep drinking...and also really "Gah, I hate how this feels right now." I also *never* ask for help, so that's kind of odd for me, too.
      I am stubborn as a pig - but changing what I'm being stubborn about!

      Cigarette Free On: 9/23/2014
      AF on: 8/12/2014

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        #4
        Not how I planned on spending my weekend, but I'm glad

        Welcome Lavender Blue. :welcome:
        You're on the right track- you know what your short term goals are:
        What I want most is to be...myself again, I suppose.

        I don't want to have that thought of "Hmmm, I'd like to do this weekend thing, but I'm not sure if I'll be ok if I can't drink."

        I want my head clear to sort out a lot of life issues that I've been hiding from dealing with.

        I don't want to walk away from conversations thinking, "Well, I'm not drunk and I think I made sense...but were my emotions actually on base there?"

        I'm also tired of worrying that I'll have a serious health issue again and then have to admit to everyone that yeah, I did start up again.
        We all have lists similar to yours... one of my frustrations when I was drunk was that I would get into "deep conversations" where I thought I made complete sense, but the other people didn't understand my wisdom! WTH??? I would try to get my point across to no avail.

        Since I was a closet drinker, I'm also a closet recoverer, lol. I didn't shout from the rooftops when I admitted I was an alcoholic (trust me, I shouted from the rooftops plenty of times when I was drunk! ).... so I don't feel the need to post on my FB page that I'm in recovery.

        As for tapering/going cold turkey... I guess it depends on how much alcohol you are used to drinking. I'm not a doctor, so I can't say for sure, but I think if you go to sleep and get a good night's sleep... and you don't drink first thing in the morning, well, your body will have been eliminating the alcohol from your body for 15 - 18 hours before the twilight hour starts again... if that is the case, I think you can go cold turkey.

        Hugs! :l Patty
        "God didn't give you the Strength to get back on your feet
        so that you can run back to the same thing that knocked you down."
        :hug:

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          #5
          Not how I planned on spending my weekend, but I'm glad

          Lavender Blue. That's pretty.
          I hear you on wanting to feel like yourself again and to be able to do things on the weekends again.
          Just stick close and soon those goals and more will be yours. :welcome:
          No matter how far you go or how fast you run, you can't get away from yourself. ....said at an AA meeting. It stuck with me.

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            #6
            Not how I planned on spending my weekend, but I'm glad

            Thanks, Patty!

            My conversation issues tend to be actual emotional issues - things that actually do need to be discussed! But I don't bring them up until I've already had a few "to calm me down." So of course either I act like everything's fine 'cause I sure feel like it is OR I have to fight not to completely freak out. Ugh. I'm SO sure that's helping communication, right?

            As to the rest, yeah - I've only drank at home for years now. I'm great when I'm out at saying "Yeah, I can't drink remember? Medical stuff." There is something supremely sad about having a quick drink at home before I go out so I can not-drink without getting twitchy. I'm sure I'm not the only one, but geez, me.

            The amount I drink is also something else I avoided thinking about until yesterday. I "only had a few" that I sipped all day. Conveniently ignoring that I make mine about 3 or 4 times as strong as what they should be. I figured out that I average about 16 actual units a day. (It seems more real typed out). That's more than "a few." >_>

            The morning thing is actually my first step. That's my other bad habit while unemployed - my coffee gets replaced by a drink with soda because "Why not, I'm not driving anywhere." >.< And then I wonder why I get nothing done all day. I'd like to cut that one out first, to be honest. Partly because I see it the same way - that if I'm ok overnight I bet I'm ok to just suck it up and quit. And also because I'm not even giving myself a *chance* starting my day like that.
            I am stubborn as a pig - but changing what I'm being stubborn about!

            Cigarette Free On: 9/23/2014
            AF on: 8/12/2014

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              #7
              Not how I planned on spending my weekend, but I&#39;m glad

              Atta Girl, Lavender Blue!

              You came to a great place. I was like you and didn't really think I had a problem until I started listing the things that were not good because of drinking. The good news is, they cleared up AND things I had no idea were related to drinking also cleared up. Anxiety and depression - things I "had" for most of my adult life - are nearly gone. I still am anxious and moody sometimes, but it is SO much better.

              You can do this. I have no advice on tapering, except I was afraid at the end of quitting cold turkey after a 6 day drinking extravaganza, but it all turned out ok. The anxiety was terrible, but I think part of it was lack of sleep, part was my fear of quitting alcohol, and the last part was the beginning of a physical addiction.

              Hope you stick around and clear this thing up for yourself. You will never regret a day you don't drink.

              Pav

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                #8
                Not how I planned on spending my weekend, but I&#39;m glad

                And thanks little beagle! (All the cute dog pics, I love it!) It's from an old song my mom used to sing to me when I was a little girl. I used to be happy without drinking; hoping it reminds me.

                All this support really means a lot; even when I was so sick I never really committed to quitting. I will be sticking close, I really want to be done with the back and forth and be able to say I'm really done and mean it. And I've put it out there now; I can't come back tomorrow and be like "Oh, nevermind, actually I'm fine."
                I am stubborn as a pig - but changing what I'm being stubborn about!

                Cigarette Free On: 9/23/2014
                AF on: 8/12/2014

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                  #9
                  Not how I planned on spending my weekend, but I&#39;m glad

                  Wow, you guys are fast! Thank you, too, Pavati!

                  In my head I knew that denial is a huge sign of having a problem, but I still just thought of my drinking as "this unhealthy thing I probably shouldn't do, have to quit that sometime," until I started reading through posts here. Something about things here clicked in and there's so many things that I know my drinking is making worse, I just didn't want to think about it. I could literally sit here and think "God, I just wish there was something easy I could do to fix things." Hmmmm.

                  I'm so glad to be among such kind people, and people that have been through it. I actually didn't even know that "tapering" was a thing until I came here - that's just how I quit the last few times when I was worried about how it would affect me. I don't think I would do it if it hadn't worked before, but I suspect I'd better be careful. If I'm not off by the end of the week (I'm planning on sooner) I'll promise you guys that I'll see a doctor whether I want to or not. Actually, I promise I'll tell my mom and I'm sure she'll MAKE me go at that point.
                  I am stubborn as a pig - but changing what I'm being stubborn about!

                  Cigarette Free On: 9/23/2014
                  AF on: 8/12/2014

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                    #10
                    Not how I planned on spending my weekend, but I&#39;m glad

                    You are on the right path, Lavender Blue.

                    Admitting to 16 drinks a day... so I think that my husband was at about the same amount as you- he'd go through a 1.75 liter in 2 days. My dad was sick and I went to stay with him, and it was during my stay with him that I had my "AHA" moment. When he passed away, I told my husband that I needed to change, and that the daily drinking had to stop, and I pretty much said, "it's me or the booze"... I know, it wasn't fair, and it was entirely unexpected on 1/1/2014 that we would both be AF.

                    But he did it. He stopped drinking 17 shots a day. And he's still alive.

                    Can you do yourself a favor, and skip the morning soda tomorrow? Like you said, give yourself a chance to start the day fresh. Try it tomorrow and let us know how you feel.

                    The most awesome thing about this forum is that we are truly a global community- wait until you meet Ava (Available)... she lives in Australia, I think, so she'll be here soon. There are quite a few from the UK, too, so you'll soon find yourself with a great network of people that believe in you. :l

                    Patty
                    "God didn't give you the Strength to get back on your feet
                    so that you can run back to the same thing that knocked you down."
                    :hug:

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                      #11
                      Not how I planned on spending my weekend, but I&#39;m glad

                      Yep, that sounds about right. I *think* a 1.75 lasts me about 3 days but I've been known to do some creative math in my head before. If you'd asked me last week I'd have said 4 or 5 days and I KNOW that's not true! It sounded much nicer as "just a few" but of course, that's part of the problem.

                      And oh good, that is very nice to hear. Obviously not that you guys had to go through that, but you have and come out the other side. Congrats for one and thanks for telling me.

                      I think I can do that - funny enough things I didn't plan are falling into place. I'm supposed to meet a friend of mine for lunch tomorrow - he doesn't drink so I picked a place that doesn't serve any. If you don't hear from me early, don't worry though - if I wake up late tomorrow I'll be rushing out the door and not able to report back til afternoon.
                      I am stubborn as a pig - but changing what I'm being stubborn about!

                      Cigarette Free On: 9/23/2014
                      AF on: 8/12/2014

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                        #12
                        Not how I planned on spending my weekend, but I&#39;m glad

                        And I suppose, for context, last time I was drinking super heavily (more than now, honestly) I did have 3 times I passed out that summer. I was told that they were panic attacks in which I hyperventilated, plus one time was heat exhaustion. Which is super likely, especially with everything else that was going on in my life. But they were also times I was aware of not having had a drink for longer than I was used to, so that's why the skittish. Last time I quit for a day or so I just was shaky and lightheaded (well and feeling awful in a "normal" withdrawly way) so I'm hopeful if nothing else and willing to try to push myself more than I think I can do; if that makes any sense.
                        I am stubborn as a pig - but changing what I'm being stubborn about!

                        Cigarette Free On: 9/23/2014
                        AF on: 8/12/2014

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                          #13
                          Not how I planned on spending my weekend, but I&#39;m glad

                          Good morning Lavender Blue... cute little fox, by the way!

                          I just poured my cup of coffee and decided to stop in and check on you... enjoy your lunch today with your friend. It is amazing, when you take off the green glass spectacles (my choice was wine), how your perception of "normal" life can change. After I quit drinking and we'd go out for dinner, my eyes would automatically scan nearby tables, as if to look for people who where "normally enjoying wine". The more I look, the more I realize that there are just as many "normal" people NOT enjoying alcohol.

                          Stay in tune to your body, and drink lots of fluids today. Water, Iced Tea, Cranberry Juice,(you can buy 100% cranberry juice that is very bitter, add a splash over ice with a packet of sugar/splenda/equal, a twist of citrus, and then water or soda water. My favorite mocktail). Don't let yourself get hungry.

                          Keep in mind there is a lot of sugar in alcohol so your body may crave sugar. Be ready with hard candies, or ice cream, or yogurt... just know that it's coming.

                          Today can be the first day- not as a punishment, but as a healing path back to where you can be yourself again.

                          :l Patty
                          "God didn't give you the Strength to get back on your feet
                          so that you can run back to the same thing that knocked you down."
                          :hug:

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                            #14
                            Not how I planned on spending my weekend, but I&#39;m glad

                            Lavendar Blue - I hope you had a good night and got some sleep, and that you're able to proceed with your plan to not drink this morning. I think that eliminating that drinking time is a solid first step. It'll give you a clear idea whether you're really experiencing withdrawal or just anxious about it.

                            Keep posting! As you have already seen, this community is responsive and supportive. We can all relate to various aspects of each other's stories including yours.
                            Everything you want is on the other side of fear.

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                              #15
                              Not how I planned on spending my weekend, but I&#39;m glad

                              Thanks for checking in; I've got to rush to make it in the shower and to lunch but so far just Gatorade this morning and no worse than I already felt last night. I usually sit online and drink in the morning, so I told myself I could only come online when I wanted to come here, heh. And more sleep than last night - weird sleep, but I'm sure everyone knows how that goes. Jumpy twitchy legs, but I've had that to deal with before, too. >_>

                              Great advice here and I'll pop back again a little later; it really helps knowing folks are pulling for me to do this!
                              I am stubborn as a pig - but changing what I'm being stubborn about!

                              Cigarette Free On: 9/23/2014
                              AF on: 8/12/2014

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