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    30 Day June Club,goal, Drink Less/Drunk less be

    Morning everyone, I did cave last night but only had a few glasses of wine, problem is I didnt really enjoy them because I felt so mad with myself. Im very good at beating myself up. So today will be af which now makes me 9days out of 13 af which is still better than I have been and I still feel as determined to sort it. Have a good day everyone

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      30 Day June Club,goal, Drink Less/Drunk less be

      Morning everyone, I feel like I am writing this post to myself, where is everyone. For anyone reading this I hope you are ok, and still achieving your own personal goals. Jane congrats in advance for Tuesday 30 days fantastic. I was af last night and will be today so by my counting thats 10 days af out of 14. Personally I feel better counting like this because constantly going back to day 1 felt like I was getting no where, counting like this shows to myself a rolling target and I just want the afs to get bigger and the other days to get smaller so far so good. have a good day everyone.:happy: :groupluv:

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        30 Day June Club,goal, Drink Less/Drunk less be

        morning garden girl, ive just been reading and have'nt wanted to post as i have a raging hangover *blush*

        i intend to start af again today after 7 days drinking. unfortunately i cant count the way you are as they were too many days.

        not enjoying the wine you had looks like a good sign to me, got you back on that af route

        roxane

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          30 Day June Club,goal, Drink Less/Drunk less be

          hi roxanne, dont blush we have all been there, sometimes I think it would be easier not to count at all. I saw somebody write the other day something like 'as long as we are doing better than we used to do then thats alright by me' sounds good. take care:l

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            30 Day June Club,goal, Drink Less/Drunk less be

            Day one again :-( for me

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              30 Day June Club,goal, Drink Less/Drunk less be

              Hey all,
              I think that one of the biggest things is that despite falling down we keep coming back an indication of the goal of putting alcohol obsession behind us. It is a process. The towel is still in reach. Learn from the mistakes as well as the successes and move on! Blushing not necessary.

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                30 Day June Club,goal, Drink Less/Drunk less be

                Well, I'm back from my weekend trip. It was good and got in some hiking and sun. I did a decent job moderating. Despite this have been feeling crabby for no reason I can figure. Oh well! Kali, are the meds helping? Looks like a lot of us are aiming for more af days this week. I'm thinking 6/7 (here we go again) would be good. Jane, congratulations in advance for your 30!

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                  30 Day June Club,goal, Drink Less/Drunk less be

                  Hi Louise,

                  I'm not taking any meds right now, but will be getting the antabuse soon.......I wish us all well..

                  Kali

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                    30 Day June Club,goal, Drink Less/Drunk less be

                    DidItForMe;143112 wrote: Adaptable..have you seen a doctor about your headaches? It just doesn't seem like they are alcohol related? Or alcohol-withdrawal related to me. Also, are you taking the supplement Milk Thistle from the book? It gave me horrible headaches..just a suggestion to stop if you are.

                    I am glad that you are all on this path, whether it is AF or just a decrease in consuption that you are looking for, it is the right thing to do. I know for myself that I wasn't a good candidate for AF, that I would just be seetting myself up for failure, even though I am on Topa. I chose to be DF, or drunk free. I have been successful in that. I have not been drunk, or even "tipsy" since February and I feel great. No hangovers, no anxiety in the middle of the night, no blackouts, no regrets. Whatever path you choose I wish you all the best.
                    Did it for myself

                    Did you take medication? I am newbie. Starting "starter pack vitamins" , hypno cds and seeing dr tomorrow. Am wondering about needing meds for cravings. Topa seems to strong for me. Looking at campral.????

                    Many questions
                    Ruby

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                      30 Day June Club,goal, Drink Less/Drunk less be

                      Jane congrats on AF nearly 30 days - good idea garden girl by counting AF days that means 10/14 would be 74% AF.

                      I've been drinking more than I'd intended during my moderation, but not getting drunk and haven't gotten hungover, had my sleep ruined on days that I've indulged. Thinking about going AF for the 2nd half of June. I've wanted to do a detox this summer (tho' technically we are still in spring). Some of the weight loss from my AF month of May has crept back, but not all of it.
                      "There are two types of education... One should teach us how to make a living, And the other how to live.? ― John Adams

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                        30 Day June Club,goal, Drink Less/Drunk less be

                        :welcome: Ruby. It is hard to answer your question as I only started topa a bit ago and am still on a low dose. Try the forum on the drugs. As for all the other supplements, etc. some people seem to react to some of them but most don't and for me all my reactions went away with time. Depending on how much you have been drinking you will have different reactions to detoxing. Hope all goes well with your dr.

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                          30 Day June Club,goal, Drink Less/Drunk less be

                          well I am really sick of myself now, last night i drank 1 and a half bottles of wine I feel so ill this morning and yet again let my husband and beautiful daughters down. I cannot go on like this the guilt is killing me. My family cannot go on like this it is totally disrupting us. My husband does not drink my family dont drink and my friends dont over indulge they just stop at one or two. I know it feels worse today because of the hangover feeling but now I am 15days and only 10 af and in the last 7 I drank mon,wed,sat,mon. I cannot moderate I have got to stop I will download the book today but I am stopping today I have to get through the rest of JUne af I need something to hang on to I am so scared of my inability to stop having a drink I just dont want to want one. I have got to get the willpower from somewhere. I am going to post notes all around the house and in the car to try and stop me buying wine. Last night as the craving hit me I went on my bike and did 7 miles hoping it would go, it didnt so I could not stand the feeling any longer and went out and bought it. I need to accept this feeling of craving and go with it, the only reson I drank last night is because I couldnt put up with the feeling. I have got to put up with it and fight it. I will keep you posted on my battle. Take care everyone :upset: :upset: :upset:

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                            30 Day June Club,goal, Drink Less/Drunk less be

                            garden girl you said in a previous post that you are taking the bare minimum because you are sensitive to vits/supps. do you react very badly? worse than a hangover and frustration with yourself? if you are trying to do this on just willpower you will have a rough time.

                            i have a trigger time from 3ish through to 7ish, or coming home among others. yesterday, i went out to do my pony and forgot to take my kudzu and l-glut with me. i knew i would need to take it as soon as i got in the car to come home. the last half hour of being at the yard was torture, i had no money on me luckily, but i was thinking that i would open a bottle of red instead 'i will drink less of that, i hate it' (we have a rack of the stuff) then i thought about how it makes me feel and knew that i couldnt (it makes me ill straight away)

                            so then i thought about getting home, grab my purse and go back out and buy 2 bottles, well you get the picture

                            there was a tiny voice that i could barely hear telling me to take my supps, as soon as i get home. thankfully, through the craving i just about heard it and did just that. i also took 2 'be calm' from superdrug.

                            it worked, the edge came off almost immediately

                            it sounds to me that you could really do with some help, if you havent tried any at least try the be calm or equivalent to calm the jitters

                            hope this helps

                            roxane

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                              30 Day June Club,goal, Drink Less/Drunk less be

                              hi roxanne, thanks for replying, I cant take any medication but I have come to the conclusion I have got to try some of the supps recommended. I have just had so many bad reactions to drugs including some vitamins that i am paronoid about taking stuff ,I will get to the health shop . Are you in the uk and if so where do you get your stuff from? is it holland and barrett. Also do you do the cds? thanks so much needed to talk to someone but wanted to stay on this thread.:thanks:

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                                30 Day June Club,goal, Drink Less/Drunk less be

                                yes im in england, but i got the supps from this site as the quality of the kudzu is supposed to be the best and because of EU law you cant get the l-glut here.

                                i am taking
                                vit.b complex
                                magnesium
                                codliver oil for omega3
                                evening primrose oil
                                with breakfast

                                900mg kudzu
                                i capsule l-glutamine lunchtime and then when i start to feel cravings pm

                                as mentioned, i also take 'be calm' 3 time daily it takes the edge off the nervous feeling. its the same as kalms but cheaper lol. i try to keep some sweets on me for craving as well as it is often a drop in sugar levels that can cause it. dont have to stuff your face just one boiled sweet sort of thing. otherwise try to eat regulary. im not good at that one hence the sweets.

                                i was told on this site that you can get kudzu from holland and barretts after i ordered it here. i had looked last year in my rather large nearest shop with no luck, but i looked on line and they do have it.

                                at night i raid my OHs pharmacy at the moment and took 1/2 a temazepam to sleep last night. i know that you cant do that and maybe you dont have a problem sleeping (i do) but you can also get herbal stuff for that also. can cause upset tummy in some peolpe though apparently.
                                phew!

                                roxane

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