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    So here I am on day one again, looking back and trying to figure out what I stumbled over this time. Am I still just circling around the same old story? Perhaps. So I started going through things to see how I felt about them because I know for a while I WAS stuck on the same old story instead of moving on with things.
    So is it who I used to be before my ex-gf M? I don't get that longing feeling so I don't think so probably not.
    Am I romanticizing the way things were with M? Hell no, I would never go back. After all that is where I started drinking so there is a reason for that. Nothing bad just not a healthy relationship. Of course for a while, towards the end, I was pushing forward thinking she would be with me. My drinking was under control for that period. Not absent just moderate.
    Of course I have been single since breaking up with her back at the beginning of 2014 with a total of 4 dates between two women since. And that wasn't until this year.
    The second of those two women (GM) .... that does bother me. Texting every day for over two weeks, 3 of those 4 dates and she was the one that said that eharmony did well by us. Then two days after we start sending X's and O's she's sick at work and says she shouldn't be around anyone, only hear a few times from her in the next few weeks and then tells me she decided she just wants to be on her own right now and she doesn't want to make me wait. Bit of a bender followed for a few weeks but of course I had to think - maybe I was disappointed but was it really her that I was drinking at? Anyway, until we met I was developing a course of action to resolve some midlife angst before I started looking again so I told her if things change I can wait awhile.. Of course I was drunk so it didn't quite come out that way but thankfully I was just responding to her text.
    I mean everything really is just fine. Good job, good pay. A roof over my head, food to eat is not a problem. A little anxious that I'm a 42 year old man living in a studio apartment and not moving up anytime soon but I've got a plan for that. First step clean up my credit report using some advice I got to clean up information that hasn't expired yet.
    So what the hell did I stumble over last night? Is it just my patience worn thin, my frustration tolerance still low? I've got the plan, putting one foot in front of the other. Just feel unmotivated I guess, nothing that I really need to do besides sleep, eat and work. Of course that would make life a little dull. Not that I have a hopping social life. See friends a couple of times a month, family every once in a while. Of course I keep up the stupid s!*t I've been doing while drunk on social media - message, text, post ..... C$!*! .... texting GM to see how she is doing ....C$!*! .... wasting money on the al itself which means I'm spending more on cigs and food because I'm not cooking at that point. C$!*! Other than the dings on my credit report (well, actually, it's in pretty bad shape) my finances are right where I want them to be right now so ......
    So I got trashed last night, ended up forwarding something that was sent to me about a kidnapped kid to all my Facebook Messenger groups. Sure that's going over well. Not wrong but I should've been a little more discriminate about how i sent it. <sigh> And then I signed up for Match.com and apparently sent an email so when I canceled the account this morning I was ineligible for a refund. I do see clues to why I'm drinking though and my angst about the studio apartment is not about the apartment.
    So what should I be doing? Well when I finally broke it off with M my drinking was starting to escalate and spending less and less time at the dojang until I wasn't going at all. (of course it does give me cause to think since my drinking was as bad that summer as it had ever been and I started here in April.) Been just about two years now since I've been there at all and I plan on getting back, been waking up at 5:30 every morning and either my brother texts me to make sure I'm up or I text him - the plan to exercise. For him that's running and the gym, for me I'm supposed to be meditating and practicing either yoga or qigong or kung fu and then doing some writing with the idea of getting published again. (and yes that was a horrible sentence grammatically speaking.)
    I have these plans, I'm excited about these plans and yet ..... when it comes to it I just have no damn motivation, no energy. It doesn't seem to help to tell myself to just get up and do it, get off my a$$.
    I need to F*!&#$* relax. I think that is really what helped me get to 2 months sober. Of course that was forced by the anal fissure that still took a few more months to heal and my muscles are still shifting back into place.
    Breathe in, breathe out. Past time to eat.
    “If we are facing in the right direction, all we have to do is keep on walking.” – Zen proverb

    "See it as it is, not worse than it is just so you have a reason not to try." - Tony Robbins.

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    #2
    Hi, sorry you had a slip - I replied to you in the nest too, I think it's great you came back & posted so soon after, as it is all to easy not to so well done x
    Thank you for posting your story, I found personally drinking can often magnify any worries I have & I feel less able to cope with them.
    I'm a bit younger than you, but think in the grand scheme of things - were relatively young to be getting our shit together so try no to pressure yourself too much. Not everyone gets this AT first time & regardless of the time it takes - the outcome is worth it.
    I may be wrong, but think there is quite alot of pressure at society's level to achieve an ideal, married, 2.4 kids & as a bloke provide for such (though less so in terms of providing etc) & wonder if your feeling this pressure a bit too?
    Early says of sobriety for me seem to be an 'emotional roller coaster' & quite honestly I'm white knuckling alot of it, I know it's important to be very 'kind' & forgiving to myself because trying to achieve sobriety whilst coping with the anxiety & worry of everything else would overwhelm me. I truly believe with a little AF time, you gain confidence & strength in dealing with the rest x Try not be to hard on yourself that your not where you want to be now, you will be x
    All the best on your AF journey
    LS
    To see a world in a grain of sand
    And a heaven in a wildflower.
    Hold infinity in the palm of your hand,
    And eternity in an hour.

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      #3
      Hi O -when you are truly ready to be free, and it sounds as though you are, counseling and medications would probably be of huge benefit to you. I am sure that you already know this, but I am only passing on my experience.

      Get well and get free.
      Thanks for posting.

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        #4
        Hey Orimus. Congrats on getting back on the horse.

        I'm a regular exerciser and a bit of a lazy mofo by nature. I like what the Kenyan marathon runners say....'let the run come to you'. so i don't chase my exercise routines, i just turn up and let them happen. The only rule for me is simply turn up for myself. Then if i only do a 1k run, fine. A 10k run, cool. I back off on the expectations of myself to complete something, but i just make sure i show up. This simple mental approach is helping me in the early days of sobriety. just a thought pardner. Learning how to live without booze in my life is key for me. And doing something i love at least once a day.

        Keep it going. G

        'I am part of all that I have met, yet all experience is an arch wherethro', gleams that untravelled world whose margins fade, forever and forever when I move'

        Zen soul Warrior. Freedom today-

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          #5
          My monkey brain was flinging feces last night and derailed me before I got to bed. Cost me a sick day. However that IS only 2 drinking days for the week. Have to figure out a better plan for Thursdays. Long commute by bus and I am not a fan of public transportation. Should've just done some reading on here instead of a fly-by check in. When I'm at the data center in NJ I've got the space to keep MWO up and do some reading. Keeps me focused on my quit when my brain isn't quite up to keeping the motivation going on it's own. At the main office in the city I'm in full view of everyone and I'm not so sure I want them to know about my alcoholism. Maybe get a privacy screen for my monitor, check in on my phone.

          Yesterday started out just fine and there were times I absolutely felt like I was given a gift. However once I got to Port Authority, standing there waiting for the bus I suddenly just felt empty and was not looking forward to going home to my empty apartment but couldn't think of anywhere I wanted to go. Once I got off the bus and back to my car should've just taken a long drive - note to self. Does get me wondering if there is some sort of dip in my serotonin around day 3 and 4.

          Five more days before my supplements get here. Unfortunately not only do they always seem to be on back order there is no where locally where I can pick them up. Figures. Did confirm that general anesthesia does seem to a trigger for relapse. Didn't get to read the actual study, just the results. Something to be aware of in the future. (I was on day 58 when I had a colonoscopy back in August.)

          LS - I absolutely think that my drinking, which didn't become an issue until my 30's, was initially triggered as part of holding those societal expectations. Pressures that I'm trying to relieve myself of.
          G - I guess my expectations of my exercise/fitness could actually be more of an issue than a boon. I'll keep that in mind - let the run come to you. Very zen.
          “If we are facing in the right direction, all we have to do is keep on walking.” – Zen proverb

          "See it as it is, not worse than it is just so you have a reason not to try." - Tony Robbins.

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            #6
            I laughed so hard at your description of your monkey brains behavior Ori you'll get this,as you know the first weeks are an emotional rollercoaster, dips in serotonin as you say,I actually feel like a lot of meds and stuff cause that, what kind of supps did you order,just curious, I'm sending you strength
            I have too much shit to do today and tomorrow to drink:sohappy:

            I'm taking care of the "tomorrow me":thumbsup:
            Drinkin won't help a damn thing! Will only make me sick for DAYS and that ugly, spacey dumb feeling-no thanks!

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              #7
              Thanks Pauly. Seemed an apt description. LOL

              Ordered Kudzu Root and St. John's Wort. Was on them before but I wasn't paying attention when months went by and my auto refill never showed up. The Kudzu Root helps with the cravings and the St. John's Wort acts as an SSRI though it does take up to 6 weeks for full effect. Also ordered Bupleurum Liver Cleanse. The main components are Bupleurum and Milk Thistle though there are other herbs in the formula.
              “If we are facing in the right direction, all we have to do is keep on walking.” – Zen proverb

              "See it as it is, not worse than it is just so you have a reason not to try." - Tony Robbins.

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                #8
                Hi,
                I hope your meds are helpful when they arrive - I definitely found day 4 my downer day x
                Definitely come here as often as you need, I think the quietness/emptiness giving up alcohol for problem drinkers (like myself) is hard to begin with. I think you definately feel better in time as your body recovers & mind feels more balanced but in the mean time staying close to your support network is invaluable until you find your feet & feel a bit better.
                Maintaining a positive attitude is really helpful but I also think it's totally normal to feel sad at times (I miss my best buddy AL) and angry too (why can't I just drink like other people). I think it's bad for me to bottle up bad emotions as they can do you harm so have a rant, cry, get rid of it or come here & we'll hold your hand & duck when you feel like flinging monkey faeces :hug:
                To see a world in a grain of sand
                And a heaven in a wildflower.
                Hold infinity in the palm of your hand,
                And eternity in an hour.

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                  #9
                  Thanks LS.

                  Monkeys in the corner with a sugar coated pacifier. (specifically a mocah frap) Diaper is still on and he is playing quietly. Didn't even notice i took away his crayons. In the meantime the coffee is brewing while I re-watch Guy Winch: Why we all need to practice emotional first aid | TED Talk | TED.com
                  “If we are facing in the right direction, all we have to do is keep on walking.” – Zen proverb

                  "See it as it is, not worse than it is just so you have a reason not to try." - Tony Robbins.

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                    #10
                    Hey Orimus,
                    Hope you got through today ok :happy2:
                    Take it easy
                    LS
                    To see a world in a grain of sand
                    And a heaven in a wildflower.
                    Hold infinity in the palm of your hand,
                    And eternity in an hour.

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                      #11
                      How are you doing, Orimus?
                      Missing you in the Nest!!:hug:

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                        #12
                        Where you at? Want to hear from you friend
                        I have too much shit to do today and tomorrow to drink:sohappy:

                        I'm taking care of the "tomorrow me":thumbsup:
                        Drinkin won't help a damn thing! Will only make me sick for DAYS and that ugly, spacey dumb feeling-no thanks!

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                          #13
                          Thank you both. Still here. A bit of a stumble but moving on. Funny since I was reading Allen Carr's Stop Drinking Now and all I could think about was a drink. Like thinking about smoking and then you see one of those quit adds. Don't think of pink elephants.
                          “If we are facing in the right direction, all we have to do is keep on walking.” – Zen proverb

                          "See it as it is, not worse than it is just so you have a reason not to try." - Tony Robbins.

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                            #14
                            Orimus, have you read Rational Recovery? I think its a good book and I like his no nonsense approach,he knows our bullshit we tell ourselves and calls it out,anyways, just forget the stumble or at least learn something from it(there's always something to learn) stick with us
                            I have too much shit to do today and tomorrow to drink:sohappy:

                            I'm taking care of the "tomorrow me":thumbsup:
                            Drinkin won't help a damn thing! Will only make me sick for DAYS and that ugly, spacey dumb feeling-no thanks!

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                              #15
                              I have no intention of going anywhere. You're stuck with me. :0)
                              “If we are facing in the right direction, all we have to do is keep on walking.” – Zen proverb

                              "See it as it is, not worse than it is just so you have a reason not to try." - Tony Robbins.

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