Army June 22

[satz123]

Re: Army June 22

Oh Benjy ..it must be heartbreaking...and yeah ..fully understand going between anger and sorrow. There's no point in anyone saying something won't work cos it might work but ....ah look...who knows...the eureka moment could indeed be round the corner...problem as I see it is the rock bottom moment doesn't seem to bother him..thinking of you xxx

Yes Molls it is - and I also have to deal with MrS & his anger ..... sarcastic comments & shouting at him. Has no sympathy at all for him - just complete disdain.
Today I got a call from the Pharmacy that he was there in a chair asleep.
In reality when I got there he was passed out & I couldn't get him up.
I had never seen him ( anyone really ) so bad - I thought he was having a stroke - he couldn't talk and appeared to have lost the power in his legs.
Took 3 men in broad daylight in a busy shopping centre to carry him to my car - he was a dead weight.

I got home & MrS tried to get him in. We managed to get him into the hall & gave up & left him there for an hour. Then we got him to the couch for another hour.
Eventually he dragged himself upstairs.

This time I've taken a video on my phone & he will be shown this tomorrow.
As you said Molls - rock bottom doesn't seem to matter to him - maybe the video will ....

[IamMary]

Re: Army June 22

Jesus, another rock bottom. What's he like when he's sober [MENTION=9094]satz123[/MENTION]?
When will that place in kidare be able to take him? Read the bio on the nun, she's a Saint.

[mollyka]

Re: Army June 22

Sounds like he's a danger to himself now Benjy...Joe's friend who couldn't get on the plane to Spain..when he tells about things that happen to him its like little snapshots of a day..he remembers guards talking to him and maybe neighbours standing looking at him but not knowing why...would you not think of signing him in somewhere that he can't leave for a while? John of God's used to be the place..now I think its James' hospital (not the treatment centre) or St Pats maybe?

[mollyka]

Re: Army June 22

Morning all...day off today but childminding..Tilly has sick tummy...really ain't the best childminder...

[NoSugar]

Re: Army June 22

[MENTION=9094]satz123[/MENTION], I think about you and your family often and hope that YS has that magic moment that all of us here had when we finally wanted to be free more than we wanted to drink. It must be especially hard for you to witness because you know there is a way out, if only he comes to see that. As long as he's alive, there's hope. xx, NS

[JackieClaire]

Re: Army June 22

Oh dear God..............I'm so, so sorry. My heart goes out to you.
I've read or saw a documentary about that nun................can't remember where or when but I remember she seemed to have a second sense where she knew someone was going to relapse.

MIL is home and FIL has taken it as an insult that a district nurse and a home help will be calling in everyday. Mr. JC and his sister went up last night and my Sister in law to give him a good talking to................that was polite version but basically she tore him a new one.

[lifechange]

Re: Army June 22

hi Army..

i'm so very sorry, Satz, for all of you. i can imagine how awful it is to see your child going through that and how difficult it is to know how to help them/what to do. what age is YS? how much sober time had he had before this relapse? i sure hope he'll be able to get into a treatment program. i'm thinking of you.:hug:

i've had a hard couple of days, but nothing is as hard as being caught up in the nightmare of active drinking. i never want to go down that road again. i really hate alcohol and how present it is ALL the time in our culture.. i escpecially hate the advertising (here it's still allowed at the cinema, on posters, on tv) aimed at young people having the time of their life.. with a little caption at the bottom, "be sure to drink responsibly".. wtf.

i feel quite fortunate to have found my way back here.. and i'm more determined than ever..xx

[satz123]

Re: Army June 22

i've had a hard couple of days, but nothing is as hard as being caught up in the nightmare of active drinking. i never want to go down that road again.
i feel quite fortunate to have found my way back here.. and i'm more determined than ever..xx

I was in Munich a few weeks ago Elsie - I've have never seen so much BEER in all my life. Acres of beer gardens filled to capacity all day.
But I think maybe they can control the amount they drink ?
Dunno .... There is much less emphasis on it - more respect for it ? not "how pissed can I get" ?
Just like lemonade to them?

[rustop59]

Re: Army June 22

Dunno .... There is much less emphasis on it - more respect for it ? not "how pissed can I get" ?
Just like lemonade to them?

Don’t know, is it respect or is their something in our Celtic genes that makes us more prone to addiction? Our pub culture certainly does not help. Any luck getting YS into a treatment place?

Miserable afternoon here. Picking daughter up at airport tonight, she was in UK on course and then heading down to cottage tomorrow morning. Himself going fishing so I might as well be productive and get something done.

[satz123]

Re: Army June 22

mmmmmmm where is everyone ?

I want to thank you for all the support you are giving me these days. YS issue has taken over my life - so as the Army is part of my life I will share because ye understand above all others. Sorry if it's getting monotonous.

I showed YS ( age 40 Elsie) the small video of himself on hands & knees trying & failing to crawl into the house and it shocked him.
I was worried about showing it to him - there always a fear he would just carry on getting worse to block out the shame - or see no way out,get so depressed & harm himself.
I was speaking to him yesterday and got the impression that although he blacked out he still not aware to how REALLY bad he was - so it had to be done.

He is drinking to dangerous levels now.
If it happens again I will ring an ambulance and let the medics take over.
I'm in work today - so it can go either way.

[IamMary]

Re: Army June 22

Morning.
So it's day by day at this point [MENTION=9094]satz123[/MENTION].. it must feels a lot like a tickling time bomb right now.
Good idea on the ambulance. I mentioned my cousin before. He hasn't relapsed since they had the hospital took him.. but that's neither here nor there I know. If the video did anything, do that again. It's not cruel, he needs to know. And realise what he's doing to you. We all know that we can live in our our own akli bubble, distorting things to suit our own narrative. We'll people do that without a drink problem!
Good luck later when your home. Keep us posted.

Off for a run.

[mollyka]

Re: Army June 22

Morning..that's actually a great idea Benjy...sorry not been round much but today is my last day at work so this week has been shocking busy...Will have all the time in the world after today! Can't imagine having all day to do whatever floats my boat!
Later folks xx

[JackieClaire]

Re: Army June 22

Morning,
[MENTION=9094]satz123[/MENTION].......don't be daft.........you've turned cartwheels for YS so don't you go feeling guilty. We might not have the answer but its somewhere to let of steam. The ambulance is a cracking idea.
Show him the video again when he's soberish.

[MENTION=8529]mollyka[/MENTION]...........eek Molls you're very last day. Hope they spoil you rotten.

[rustop59]

Re: Army June 22

Evening everyone

Last day, that must be strange Molly. New beginnings and a lot to look forward to.

Good idea Satz, hard but sugar coating it won’t help either.

Down at the cottage, doing bits and pieces. Painted the front door red and immediately the place looks more cheery. Used to be dark flaking brown.

Fire on in stove, feet up with book, no one to bother me, bliss. Well I do have three dogs but they seem content.

[mollyka]

Re: Army June 22

good evening lads and lassies -- so last day finally over -- it was a wonderful day - but a sad day as well --- I have made some really good pals in there - like REAL ones -- not just workmates and I really will miss them -- BUT -- this is the beginning of the new life and I'm excited to start it.. and I'm determined I'm not going to go from worry to worry -- houses, tenants, broadband -- all fiddlyfaffle -- and will get sorted eventually -- just going to relax and enjoy freedom I haven't had for many a year...

so now -- enjoy yourself down there Rusters -- sounds fantastic to me (could do without the dogs tho!)
Any updates Benjy? It's great that you escape to work I'm sure -- would be shocking to have loads of time on your hands to worry.. and as you know - worry solves nothing -- an admittance to A&E via ambulance could be the best thing of all -- but who knows?

Elsie -- how you doing? Once you start racking up the days you'll start feeling wonderful and more secure in your sobriety -- somebody asked you earlier on -- is alcohol freely available around you at work? I'd imagine it is in a restaurant? Is that a problem to you do you think?

Anyway -- I'm now going to bed -- wall-falling! Nighters folks -- talk tomorrow xx