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[Sweetgum]

Hi all , i've not been here for a while, because ive been too ashamed. Basically over the last three months my drinking has spiralled out of control again and has got to its worst ever- and thats saying something. Over the last two weeks i have done some dreadful, selfish things to those i love and lost yet another job. But i know although today i'm desperate to stop-tomorrow or the next day or next week, i'm going to want to drink again. I'm full of the best intentions yet so weak and I don't know what to do, I very nearly got myself killed last week and god knows what state my body is in, yet none if this is enough to make me stop.

Lou x

[ducky]

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Lou, thank goodness you did not get yourself killed. Have you read the book and tried the supplements? Sounds like time to get on the entire program. You can do this and you will get lots of help here. Don't disappear when you slip; that's when you need to log on!

[Kitty]

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Hi Lou,

Ducky is right, please don't feel ashamed to come here. That is the whole point of this site. We are here for each other at all times.

Lou read the book if you can and try some of the supps. Everyone is different, and different things work for different people, but anything you can try to give you a little extra "leg up" is worth it.

Remember baby steps soon turn into strides.

Hope to see you around, good luck.

Kitty

[nancy]

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meds?

I think in very serious cases, and yours sounds serious, medication is in order.

If you don't want to try topomax, can you try naltrexone? Adagirl has been writing interesting threads on this. I guess you can drink on it but no BUZZ, so boring.

OR campral?

REad through the medication section. you need a break!!

don't run away again, let us know how it goes.

I have a feeling that the journaliing we do on this site is very valuable in turning bad things around.

By the way:
do you have full set of supplements?
kudzu?
hypno CDs?

[Sweetgum]

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Thanks for the replies

The only medication my doctor will perscribe me is antidepressants which are of no use. i'm afraid i can't afford the supplements on here

Lou x

[nancy]

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short on resources

Your doctor won't prescribe something like campril or naltrexone?
I don't understand that. I can understand a GP not going with topa because it is less established, but I would expect an experienced addiction based person to consider topa.

I don't know what country you are in, but can you get a referal to a specialist-- a psychiatrist? I was expecially impressed with Adagirl's progress on Naltrexone with a better side effect profile.

regarding your supplements, a start would be a complete multivitamin and mineral supplement (formulation for women) every day, plus extra B Vitamins and magnesium/calcium/Vit D if there is not enough in the supplement. That should not be too expensive if you buy it locally.

Lglutamine can be purchased locally for not too much. I have had a hard time finding kudzuo locally. and worry that the formulatio is not the same as what is recommended on this program.

Also there is a thread about discount vitamins online, I think one site was called Swansons. Do a search on the threads.

you probably could get meditation CDs from your local library.

I bet other members have same issues with resources and can offer you some tips.

Until you get some resources, keep coming and visiting us. We have a Newbies in need thread where we check in every day with each other. you are welcome to join that one..

take care of yourself, glad you survived. You need a break from this horror and hopefully we can help get you there.

[Kitty]

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Hi,

You can get L-Glutamine at any health food shops and it is on sale at Holland & Barret right now. I've been taking it a week and it is really helping with cravings, and I had them quite bad because I gave up smoking at the same time too.


Kitty

[louise]

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I'm glad you came back. Can you try a different dr.? I can't understand a dr. not giving you a drug to help you stop drinking if you have told him how serious your drinking is. Is there an addiction specialist you can try? Do try to get the L-glutamine. And even if you can only order the one hypnotic cd and kudzu and the book I would do so on a credit card if your life is at stake. There is a link on program updates that describes supplements, what they are for and current recommended amounts that would help you decide the most critical ones. I know if you have just lost your job it seems like a lot of money but if I add up what I spend on alcohol and all its damage the full program here is cheaper in the long run. Logging on here is a good thing to do at first instead of drinking. Good luck.

[Guest]

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Hi loussie2,

First of all, please don`t feel ashamed for failing of late. We have all been where you are right now, and the only important thing is that you are back here seeking help.

I came here and read the posts for a couple of months and did absolutely nothing about my excessive drinking at that time. It was easy to do nothing, as I told myself I was a hopeless case and beyond help..........most convenient!!!, as while I adopted that attitude I could just carry on drinking. I told myself I was powerless, which was complete and utter rot, as if I were powerless I wouldn`t have managed to get from a nightly btl./wine to a weekly btl. these past 3 wks. I have been AF for 15 of the last 18 nights.

Am not going to say that I`ve found it in the least easy, for I have not. But I have managed to do it so far, because wine has merely an attraction.........I am the one with the power.

I note what you say that due to losing your employment you cannot afford to buy the supps. etc., and I do feel for you in not having that option. However, my progress has been due to my power of self-control alone........am not taking any supps or meds. Am not in the least arrogant or boastful of my personal strategy, and am only too well aware that I may not manage to maintain my current success long-term without the meds. and supps., in which case I will arm myself with some.

All I`m saying is that the power of positive thinking can do a helluva lot in itself if we want something enough.

Am glad you have came back here to try again.

I wish you much luck,

Starlight Impress

[diamond]

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Hi Lou,

please remember most of us are in your position or have been at some time in our lives.
It is good you came back, I am in UK and feel you need to change GP.

If not ask for a referral to psychiatrist, then the psych can refer you to alcohol counselling and medication or go to one of the advertised NHS alcohol counselling services and go from there.

Every time you accept you don't want to drink because of one aspect of your health it is a step further down the road to health, please don't give up

GOOD LUCK

Diamond

[Arial]

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:welcome: back Lou,

glad to see you here and that you're OK - you can do this and you will get the life back that you deserve - The first steps are the hardest and it does sound as if you need a more understanding and supportive doctor so I hope that could maybe be a first step. We'll be here any time you want so please don't be a stranger - keep coming, sharing , reading and hopefully everything together can get you over this initial hurdle and on the road to your new goals. Warmest wishes, :l

[bootcampbarbie]

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maybe it is just one moment at a time. and if you don't have the money for the supps or anything then you have to tough it out without it. that will also mean you don't have money to buy any booze either. so the money it takes to buy booze you can buy l glut with that. or kudzo. and instead of thinking about all the failures you can think about putting together how many minutes in a day you can. this alcohol can demoralize us so low its a wonder we can even muster the courage to start a thread. so i applaud you for doing just that. you reached out. you are cared about. so, let's just start with one monet and put those together. at least that is what i am doing for me. you didn't kill yourself so that means there is a reason for you to be here. i'm sober another day. you can do this. we just don't take up the first drink.