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    Naltrexone works!!!

    Hi, I have been lurking for a while but haven't posted. I tried mods, AA, and just attempting to control it by myself and this summer spun out of control - up to two bottles of wine ( and once, 2 and a half) a night, at least half of which I drank alone ( meaning after I got home or after people went to bed - not that they helped me kill the 2 bottles- did that all by myself). Its been pretty awful, never remembering what happened past 10 pm, every morning feeling HORRIBLE and promising no more, until the evening, when - well, you know the drill.
    So I ordered naltrexone online after reading up on it, particularly on what Dr. Sinclair in Finland has to say on how its best used for mods, not abs ( look up "sinclair method" on wikipedia and you'll see what I'm talking about).
    So I went on it three days ago and all I can say is WOW. Wow wow wow wow wow.
    I know it doesn't work for everyone but so far it is working for me. First night on it at 50 mg I felt flu-ey and fatigued yet insomniac- really worried me as I thought "Oh NO!! - I'm not reacting well!!" But I wasn't so ill I didn't go out on a date- during which I drank two drinks only, neither of which had the slightest effect. Just didn't want more. Home to bed by midnight. Last night I went to a party, this time on 25 mg to see if I could reduce the chance of insomnia, and had zero side effects. Was only able to down one drink over the course of an hour at the party. Since i was sober (the one had no effect either) and don't know how to socialize very well stone-cold, I left, but there I was, at a party, being more of a social drinker than most of the "normal" people there!!
    Tonight ( its the weekend) I am having some people over. They are heavy drinkers so am going back up to 50 just to be sure, but I am really confident they will comment on how little I am drinking because I am confident I won't even be able to drink much!!
    Its so exciting!!!!!!!!! This must be what its like to be a social drinker!!!!!!
    Will keep you all updated (and will post this in the mods thread) but for the first time in forever I HAVE HOPE!!!!!!!!
    Anyone else have this experience?

    #2
    Naltrexone works!!!

    That is great news. Please do keep us posted on your journey.
    I'm really easy to get along with once people learn to worship me

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      #3
      Naltrexone works!!!

      Hi drunknomore, I ordered the Naltrexone and just recieved it today. So, I can't wait to try it out. Glad to hear it is helping you so much. I'm going to a wedding in Chicago next weekend and hope this will help me. Last couple of weddings I have gone to don't remember much! I want to remember and enjoy this one! What time of day do you take your pill. There is another person here who uses Naltrexone and reading up on her success is what made me want to try it out. Best of luck at your party tonight!
      Blessings Angel

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        #4
        Naltrexone works!!!

        Great to read of your success. Very inspiring.

        Can you use Naltrexone on an as-needed basis?

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          #5
          Naltrexone works!!!

          Fascinating information. Good luck drunknomore. The widipedia article was quite interesting.

          :l
          AF as of August 5th, 2012

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            #6
            Naltrexone works!!!

            Hi there,

            Thanks so much for the kind words of support. Last night worked out really well/ strangely - Bear with me since I now have a lot of observations about drinking on Naltrexone!

            I had two drinking buddies over for scrabble. Last time we did this I passed out and they stayed up until four, then we all hung around the house playing until 7 the next night because our hangovers were so bad. Okay, so last night I took 25 mg of naltrexone before they arrived at 7 pm, thinking I would take 25 more if it didn't work well enough against what was sure temptation. We sat and ate chinese and talked and by the middle of the meal I looked up and realized they had finished the bottle but I hadn't touched my wine so I had forgot to replenish their glasses (bad hostess!). I got out another bottle for them, and halfway into their second bottle first my glass (which included two ice cubes) was still half full. I finished my first glass as they started their third bottle. I just wasn't interested, despite the company! This was a real test. All in all, I had three glasses over 7 hours last night, mainly to be social through the duration of the games, though don't really understand why I felt this pressure to drink a third (must look at that) as the drinks didn't really do anything at all for me.
            This was a really new experience in lots of ways - these were old drinking friends who I drank with last night as a "social" drinker for the first time, I think, in our lives. I think they were a little weirded out by it. This is an issue to deal with. Also, I was worried I was a bit boring since I didn't have the "shield" of oblivion about me and that made me self-conscious. Another thing to learn to handle. Also, I didn't really want the third glass, so why did I drink it? Another thing to look at. They certainly didn't pressure me - they were too sozzled! So why did I pressure myself? This goes against the AA theory that your drunk friends are a bad influence. It wasn't them - they are good, solid friends (as we here all seem to prove/understand, active drunks can be great people and friends, even though AA doesn't seem to acknowledge this). No, it was me! MY insecurities - my friends wouldn't have known by that point in the evening if I was drinking lemonade! All in all, one of the things am noticing about being on this drug is it doesn't just enable you to "be" a social drinker, it forces you to be one (if you choose to drink on it), and by doing so makes a huge difference in how you look at your interaction with booze. I am looking at my drinking habits in ways that being in AA never allowed me to. I have more new, pointed questions about why/how I drink - from one night's experience- than I ever had from three months suffering in AA (where I just focused on cravings and beat myself up for being an alcoholic).
            Its an amazing experience. I am really delighted I found this and just hope it keeps up!

            To answer the q about what time of day I take it, I follow Sinclair's advice and take it an hour before I drink, but some people take it early morning just to get it overwith and others take it last thing if they feel fatigued from it ( I don't on 25 mg).

            Also to answer the q about taking it on an as-needed basis, Sinclair says that's the ultimate goal, but not a good way to start as you don't get the full benefit unless you do a full three-month course first ( though I may stay on this the rest of my life if necessary!!!). Check him out for more info on this.

            Again, sorry for the long post, I am just having trouble believing what I am seeing with this drug - its so strange and amazing. I just wonder why more people don't acknowledge what it can really do!!

            Bless everyone and best of luck

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              #7
              Naltrexone works!!!

              Wow. This is so amazing.

              I just posted this link to Wilkipedia on the General Discussion board. Thanks for sharing!

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                #8
                Naltrexone works!!!

                Hi, have found Drunknomore?'s revelations really interesting and will give Naltrexone a try. After a bad experience with Topamax which gave me terrible moodswings I've been back to my bad old ways(between 1 and 2 bottles of wine most nights). Abandoning the program just because the topa didn't suit me was a bad move though, and I'm at day one again, using all the other parts of the program and loads of wiilpower!

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                  Naltrexone works!!!

                  ordering naltrexone

                  Hello, don't know if I'm doing this correct as I have never been in a chat room . I really enjoy reading everyones stories, and like Drunknomore have just hung out. I was curious if Drunknomore ordered naltrexone from River Phamacy. I ordered it and have not used it. I was not sure as the tablets are not scored or marked. They did come in blister packs labled Nodict. I am on Campral at the moment and do not feel they work. So, I would like to try the naltrexone if that is what yours look like and where you got them . Thanks

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                    Naltrexone works!!!

                    Hi everyone - Kathy I ordered from River pharmacy too and have the blister pack Nodicts in my bag right now (lol). The stuff am taking right now I actually got from my therapist as it took River so long to get the pills to me that I became really desperate and went to her last week with a bunch of printouts about the Sinclair Method. She's pretty open-minded and prescribed Naltrexone to me on a temporary basis (didn't tell her I also ordered online). My Nodicts came from India, which I admit is a little scary, but might explain why they look different. I'm guessing that if they are not real Naltrexone, they are probably nothing at all aside from sugar pills. You'll know once you take them. I would start at 25 just to minimize initial side effects but the real dosage is 50, so if 25 doesn't work, you can safely go up a bit. I'm going to email River Pharmacy and ask about their source but I'd be surprised if it was not on the up and up, considering you probably have an emailed invoice etc from them -you can easily prove they provided the drugs, so they would be idiots not to supply the real stuff. By the way they use Naltrexone a lot in India from what I understand, so its not so weird that they have it there.
                    By the way last night, out with two social drinkers for a movie, and had one when they had two!!!! Got home and watched tv (normally when I kill at least a bottle) and drank WATER!!!! By choice!!!! And boy it tasted good. Still amazed. This is the fifth day in a row I have woken up with no hangover, and my outlook is so much brighter in general. For example its the birthday of the guy who left me for another girl earlier this year ( on the same day I lost my job- and he was my fiance, no less) and I'm not even thinking that much about it/him, even though towards the end of my heaviest period of drunks this summer I was pointlessly but painfully obsessing. I thought then I was going mad, but now it seems it was just the result of drink-induced depression. Now its pretty much gone. Am feeling chipper - oh and lost 4 pounds this week!! Surely thats the fact that am taking in 1500 less calories every night, but also had got into the nasty habit of late-night eating, none of which I would remember the next day, and thats stopped too, thankfully.
                    Everything has stopped. Even my smoking is down. My main problem now is learning to fill time that I used to spend drunk, and learning to socially operate as someone who just doesn't get drunk.
                    Miss CDJ - the thing I've really noticed is that on this drug willpower doesn't come into it - for me at least -I hope that helps

                    Sorry again for the long posts everyone - I just want to mark all this before I get so used to the changes that I forget to mention all the strange and wonderful stuff I'm noticing now!
                    Bles you all and good luck and THANK for all your support!!
                    DNM

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                      Hello, DNM Thanks for the info. I did take 1/2 tab of naltrexone last night and was sleepy and thought it worked. I thought the same thing you said, they should be reputable since you can track back to where they came from. Was hoping they did work and that it was'nt just sleepyness or the fact I had a bellyache from drinking Sat. I suppose I'll try 1/2 a tab the rest of this week. I do have an appointment with my doctor Thursday to follow up with the Campral. (did not tell her I had ordered the naltrexone as I was embarressed) I do think I will speak with her now. For anyone this helps I started with a great therapist to work on my triggers for drinking. I next found MYO, Did try some of the supplements and hypnosis cds. I found all the supplements were not for me and the guys voice on the cds annoying. However, it has opened discussion and my quest to find what works for me. I have modified my vitamins by belive it or not Vitamins for Dummies, there is a section in there for alcoholics as well as other ailments. I have also been reading Potatoes not Prozac, very helpful as well. Anyway, I agreed with DNM I need to get this out and share it while its happening.

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                        #12
                        Naltrexone works!!!

                        more explanation?

                        Hi again Drunknomore,

                        can you explain a bit more? which tablets came from India? the ones your doctor prescribed or the River Pharmacy tabs? Do you have the River pharmacy tablets now?

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                          Naltrexone works!!!

                          Hi Nancy,
                          No I initially ordered the drugs online, and they took the best part of a month to arrive - I was drinking through the initial weeks after ordering ( despite trying to control and do abs) so when after two weeks they failed to arrive, I finally broke down and told my therapist, and she prescribed it to me. So I am at the moment taking the prescribed pills, but the online ones have since arrived (they are the ones called Nodict from India via River Pharmacy) and I will take those once my prescribed bottle runs out.
                          Hope that helps!
                          Mariana

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                            Kathytk20-
                            I would LOVE to hear how this week goes for you- what's weird about Sinclair's approach is that there is so little on the net about this method, so its hard to know how it goes for others, and given my results so far I'm really intrigued now. I think it is so little covered because its mainly used (to the extent it is used at all) in other countries (like Finland, where Sinclair works) and most posts are in other languages. In the US most of the online posts seem to be all from heroin/opiate users, so it doesn't help much for us alkies. Also the posts are mainly about trying to use Naltrexone for abs and apparently its not great for that. But as for N on mods- yet again, went to a work party tonight and over two hours drank one drink only, without any strain whatsoever, and am now at home watching heroes on tivo and drinking delicious water and thinking about yoga tomorrow morning! Haven't been able to get up that early in MONTHS. And am having trouble remembering the storylines of Heroes because have so rarely watched it without at least a bottle in me!!
                            Its all still exciting for me - please let me know how you get on and BEST of luck!!!!!
                            DNM

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                              Naltrexone works!!!

                              I am on Prozac already (20mg. per day) and would like to know if its ok to start the naltrexone along with it. Has anyone read anything on using these together or tried it?
                              Thanks

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