drinking on Naltrexone (sinclair method)

[aurora borialis]

drinking on Naltrexone (sinclair method)

I posted a reply to Marbella but I don't know if it was accepted. I find the site confusing. Sorry . Potato

[aurora borialis]

drinking on Naltrexone (sinclair method)

Mike with a dream;503922 wrote: I've been reading the book on Naltrexone. A lot of the advice given by physicians on its use is incorrect, for a number of reasons too long to point out in a short message. You definitely need to take Naltrexone when drinking or it won't work to extinguish the brain's learned behavior to drink. You do not have to take it every day, only an hour before drinking. So if you don't plan on drinking, don't take it. Granted that takes some self control, but the alternative is death. Naltrexone can damage the liver, but in huge quantities, at least 300 mg, not the prescribed 50 mg. Alcohol does a lot more damage. I highly recommend the book. Amazon.com: The Cure for Alcoholism: Drink Your Way Sober Without Willpower, Abstinence or Discomfort: Roy Eskapa, David Sinclair: Books

I totally agree with this quote and would like to add that the medical community is being too slow to get on board regarding this method. Potato

[A Work in Progress]

drinking on Naltrexone (sinclair method)

So, Potato, welcome! And, how are you doing with this "method"? Does it seem to be a "cure," in your experience? We keep hearing about this method here on MWO, but, so far, I really haven't seen much evidence that would support the very strong claims that are being made... but, that being said, if you are happy with your results, that's great!

[lenaleed]

drinking on Naltrexone (sinclair method)

Hi -- I'm new to this board. I ordered the Sinclair book and Naltrexone today. To those using nal/mods: Anyone using the cd's as well? Are those necessary or even helpful with the Sinclair method?

[aurora borialis]

drinking on Naltrexone (sinclair method)

A Work in Progress;505657 wrote: So, Potato, welcome! And, how are you doing with this "method"? Does it seem to be a "cure," in your experience? We keep hearing about this method here on MWO, but, so far, I really haven't seen much evidence that would support the very strong claims that are being made... but, that being said, if you are happy with your results, that's great!

HI there, A work in progress. I have been following the Sinclair Method since Oct.6th. I bought the book " the Cure for Alcoholism "by Roy Eskapa and read most of it and I have taken Naltrxone one hour before I have any alcohol. I have not missed a dose at all. Before I started the method, I have always been the kind of person who drinks too much in one sitting. ( not always, but mostly). I would do this around 6 to 8 times in a month. Like many drinkers I became tired of feeling sick for over a third or more of any given month. SO anyway, my four months of practicing the Sinclair method will come up on Feb 6th. In the book it states the method takes around four months to work. I don't take my Naltrexone unless I am going to drink. Like the book says. I will be able to say whether or not I think it is working closer to Feb. I was never a daily drinker so I am hoping it helps me regardless of my pattern. The examples he uses in the book are of people who have drank more than I typically do but I hope it works for me anyway. So far I have noticed sometimes I don't feel like drinking as much. It also tastes yucky. Will keep you posted. Happy New Year!!:new::thanks:

[A Work in Progress]

drinking on Naltrexone (sinclair method)

Happy New Year, Potato... yes, let us know how it's going!

[Guest]

drinking on Naltrexone (sinclair method)

:heart:

Mike with a dream;499502 wrote: I've been on 50 mg of Naltrexone for a week. I kept on drinking, but found it to be very frustrating when I didn't get the familiar buzz. So I didn't drink at all last night. I didn't know what to do with myself. I'd been very lethargic all day, and didn't feel like doing anything. I finally went to bed an hour early. But I'm determined to keep on taking Naltrexone. The alternative is death. Never mind that I've shut just about everyone out of my life, so I can get drunk in peace.

Drinking alone at home for the past two years. I've had enough.

I woke up with more energy this morning, but the craving is in full force. I've already started to make plans on when I'll buy Wild Turkey, and when I'll start drinking, early afternoon maybe? I know that Naltrexone will block the pleasure, but I'm willing to try drinking anyway. Maybe that's what Dr. Sinclair is talking about, unlearning.

It's ironic, alcoholics have a strong kinship, but we're so alone. My doctor wants me to go back to AA, along with Naltrexone. Maybe he's right.

Hey Mike with a dream, I started naltrexone (again) but added 1/2 tab of baclofen 3 x per day(10mg in half) 5 days ago and just do not feel like drinking (or smoking cigs!) But I just read your note and I remembered I had a bottle of Jack stashed in my art room where I have been ALL DAY and I just "remembered" I have it when you mentioned the Wild Turkey. If I were not on these drugs, I would have had a bottle of wine and a few drinks by now, and it's only 4pm! Well I was 24-7. I am going to 2 AA meetings week (and had continued to drink), not really care for much of the meeting, but parts I can accept and it does get me out of the house at night one night a week and as I live in the country there are nice folk there. Anyway I am hoping the best for all of us.:heart:

[angelfood]

drinking on Naltrexone (sinclair method)

How much Campral do you take and when do you take it? When do you take Naltrexone? I have been on Nal since mid-Dec. Went off the Campral after a year since I was not having really good luck with it. Now I am thinking of adding Campral back into the mix with Nal on those days when the craving is bad.

[Cinders]

drinking on Naltrexone (sinclair method)

Angelfood,

Campral's use is to help the brain get back to "normal," i.e. pre-drinking state quicker than by abstinence alone.

That is why they call it an anti-craving drug, because the thought is that if your brain chemistry starts changing faster, you will crave less.

It is not a drug that will do any good taking on an "as needed" basis.

Cindi

[Guest]

drinking on Naltrexone (sinclair method)

Cinders;507753 wrote: Angelfood,

Campral's use is to help the brain get back to "normal," i.e. pre-drinking state quicker than by abstinence alone.

That is why they call it an anti-craving drug, because the thought is that if your brain chemistry starts changing faster, you will crave less.

It is not a drug that will do any good taking on an "as needed" basis.

Cindi

An addition specialist Dr. here in California prescribed for me Naltrexone along with the use of Campral. I think his theory is the Naltrexone is to stop the craving and the Campral is to help your neurotransmitters readjust. I had the shot of naltrexone, and drank within three days right back to my usual 24-7 habit.
I do feel more success using the pill of 50mg. No drinking now for 6 days! I take the 5mg
3 x a day of Baclofen also, but do not remember where I got this formula from. In any case, I do not have the desire to drink. Thankfully....lanter:

[lenaleed]

drinking on Naltrexone (sinclair method)

Hi - I'm new here but I am so worried about members who think Naltrexone will help them abstain. Sinclair himself emphasizes that clinical trials show that abstainers do WORSE than the control group in double-blind studies, as to abstaining. You must continue to drink alcohol when you FIRST use naltrexone or it is a waste. Please, search youtube or podcast for Sinclair Method if you don't have the patience to order the book on Amazon. Naltrexone is not a first-step solution for abs -- ONLY mods!! Learn about the principle of extinction. I care a great deal about you all already and don't want anyone to set themself up for failure. I trust that you feel that way about each other (including ME) and that's why I'm here!! :new:

[Guest]

drinking on Naltrexone (sinclair method)

lenaleed;507961 wrote: Hi - I'm new here but I am so worried about members who think Naltrexone will help them abstain. Sinclair himself emphasizes that clinical trials show that abstainers do WORSE than the control group in double-blind studies, as to abstaining. You must continue to drink alcohol when you FIRST use naltrexone or it is a waste. Please, search youtube or podcast for Sinclair Method if you don't have the patience to order the book on Amazon. Naltrexone is not a first-step solution for abs -- ONLY mods!! Learn about the principle of extinction. I care a great deal about you all already and don't want anyone to set themself up for failure. I trust that you feel that way about each other (including ME) and that's why I'm here!! :new:

Hi, I am taking Naltrexone and I have read Dr. SInclair's studies. I just do not have the desire to drink, so I am not sure what to do, drink anyway for the restructuring time? I have taken Naltrexone before and when I drank it threw me right back into my 24-7 habit. Thanks for the care, :lilheart:

[aurora borialis]

drinking on Naltrexone (sinclair method)

I understand how some people take Nal everyday because some doctors don't believe or want to even acknowledge or try the Sinclair method . A friend of mine took papers and the book to her doc and he scoffed at it and would not allow her to try it so. ??? What to do then eh?

[aurora borialis]

drinking on Naltrexone (sinclair method)

Oceanaocean, I am sure Nal is for you if you have a 24-7 habit. BUT. If you get the book The Cure for Alcoholism and do the extinction method exactly as it says in the book you should get better. But you have to be committed and disciplined and exact. Thats the catch. No fumbling around saying to yourself " oh yeah, I was supposed to take that pill ". The thing is you have to be a bit of a tight ass with yourself about it. That's the thing. Oh yeah well if you don't have the desire to drink well that is great!! Don't drink. But don't take your pill either. That is if your following the book's recomendations. Oh and if you already took it. Well ok. So what. But the book is helpful.

[CaptJBean]

drinking on Naltrexone (sinclair method)

Nartrexerone doesn't seem to work as well on women as it does men... for me it has taken therapy too...