drinking on Naltrexone (sinclair method)

[SpringerRider]

drinking on Naltrexone (sinclair method)

Hi Peppermint,
When I take Nal, I feel groggy shortly afterwards. I may be groggier in the AM but I was always groggy so I don't know if it has changed.

Stay with Nal. Don't chemical hop. Use it exactly as Eskapa prescribes in his book. The protocol is for 4 months minimum and then you must take it before you drink, for the rest of your life.

But most people loose interest in driniking (we don't have the best of memories) after 4 or five months and choose not to drink at all.

The dangerous part is using Nal and then quiting Nal but continuing to drink because there is a rebound effect,

[A Work in Progress]

drinking on Naltrexone (sinclair method)

SR, I have been following the Naltrexone discussions here at MWO for 6 months or so. I just noticed your post:

The protocol is for 4 months minimum and then you must take it before you drink, for the rest of your life.

But most people loose interest in driniking (we don't have the best of memories) after 4 or five months and choose not to drink at all.

So, I am curious. Is there anyone on this thread who, using this "Sinclair Method," has changed their drinking patterns so that they are either no longer drinking at all, or consistently drinking only very moderate amounts? If so, for how long have you been maintaining consistent (let's say, no more than 3 units per day, for a man) moderate consumption? (By "consistent," I mean no longer getting drunk, or "slipping.")

[rv9]

drinking on Naltrexone (sinclair method)

A Work in Progress;534023 wrote: So, I am curious. Is there anyone on this thread who, using this "Sinclair Method," has changed their drinking patterns so that they are either no longer drinking at all, or consistently drinking only very moderate amounts? If so, for how long have you been maintaining consistent (let's say, no more than 3 units per day, for a man) moderate consumption? (By "consistent," I mean no longer getting drunk, or "slipping.")

AWIP,

Eskapa's book has only been around since October or November. I doubt anyone here (on this forum) has been on it for any longer than a few months. I'm at two and a half months and compared to most, I'm an old-timer on the method.

The method has been used extensively in Finland and that's where you'd find the long-term data. I think it's something north of 100,000 people that have been treated there.

There is a clinic in Florida that has been using it for 10 years or so. They are claiming success rates in line with the numbers out of Finland - about 78% with half of the failures due to noncompliance and the remainder because (they think) of a genetic GABA receptor issue.

A Sinclair Method patient interviewed in the recent Times of London article (search their site for 'naltrexone') said it's been five years since she drank herself silly. Since then she is able to drink occasional glasses of wine without slipping back into heavy drinking.

The bottom line is that it'll be a few more months before anyone here can declare success or failure with the Sinclair Method.

[wxyz]

drinking on Naltrexone (sinclair method)

Great answer- thank you rv9. I was hoping maybe people could somehow post their drinking diaries. I would love to know what kind of progress I can expect along the way. I have the book and I've been taking nal for 15 days now but I'm not really seeing a difference and I'm wondering if I'm missing something. Eskapa refers to Sinclair's "happy hour" in his book- I'm not sure if I should be taking Nal and going about the way I normally drink or if I'm supposed to moderate my intake and keep it down to a certain amount of time. I wish he would've been more specific in the book. I know someone on mwo said they talk to Eskapa- any chance we might be able to get clarification on this?
btw, this is my first post and I'm happy that you all are out there for support-- I've been reading for some time now but haven't posted. I want more than anything to kick drinking and have vowed to stick with the Nal for 4 months. I will do that no matter what but I have to say I'm feeling a bit defeated after 15 days and no difference. My drinking diary is like a broken record- took 50mg of Nal, craving is at level 10, drank 8-12 units.

[peppermint]

drinking on Naltrexone (sinclair method)

Anyone following this thread will know I've been struggling with side effects of excessive sleeping and feeling groggy. Perhaps I'm taking Nal at the wrong time of day ??? - usually take it about 1-2 hours before drinking in the evening. What time of day do people take it? Read recently that it has a short 'half-life'

[Virgil]

drinking on Naltrexone (sinclair method)

Hi Folks,

I am so keen to try the Sinclair Method. However, here in the UK, I feel that I will need to present my case to someone from the medical establishment that is not familiar with Dr Sinclair's approach. So, I am putting together a dossier of information that I can present to my GP or Psychiatrist.

There is, however, one point on which I am unclear and that relates to Dr Sinclair's statement that a liver test is necessary before embarking on his programme. My question is - what are the criteria for an acceptable liver function test in order to adopt the Sinclair Method? The reason I ask this is because I know from previous liver function tests that some of my results have given cause for concern. Does that rule me out of trying the Sinclair Method or would I need to be put on a detox programme first?

Can anyone advise me, please?

V.

[lenaleed]

drinking on Naltrexone (sinclair method)

New place to post

thesinclairmethod.com; Index page

[tjcmwo]

drinking on Naltrexone (sinclair method)

nal side effects

peppermint;533148 wrote: To anyone out there who's on Naltrexone - I'm in my 4th week and really feel it does work BUT does anyone get the side effects that I do? I take it in the evening about 1 hour before a drink but every morning I wake up sleepy, groggy and unable to get up. I feel almost "hung over" - I could actually go on sleeping for a full 10 or 11 hours but have to get up to go to work. Keep thinking this side effect will pass with time but not so far. Only got a week's supply left so I'll have to call it a day after that and try something else - anyone got any ideas about Topamax instead?

in december i tried the Naltrexone/Sinclair approach, at 50mg, one hour before. I had terrible side effects (extreme fatigue, spacial disorientation, and sleep disturbance). i consulted with an md who understands the pharmacology. he said the 'half life' is 24 hours, and thus, when it's taken is less important than i might have thought.

I tried a reduced dose (25mg), and i tried taking it in the a.m. But i continued to experience the side effects to the point that i was concerned about driving.

after two weeks, i gave up. it took a few days (don't know why) for the se's to leave.

i want to give this regimen another try, and will probably start shortly.

just reporting my own experience. good luck to all.

[aurora borialis]

drinking on Naltrexone (sinclair method)

Sorry tjcmwo, I don't have that side effect. For a while I had tinnitus from it but that went away when I cranked up my vitamins. I do have very lucid and interesting vivid dreams. I do not wake up groggy and sluggish but that must be awful sorry. Maybe it's something else. Are you otherwise physically healthy?

[SpringerRider]

drinking on Naltrexone (sinclair method)

tjcmwo;539957 wrote: in december i tried the Naltrexone/Sinclair approach, at 50mg, one hour before. I had terrible side effects (extreme fatigue, spacial disorientation, and sleep disturbance). i consulted with an md who understands the pharmacology. he said the 'half life' is 24 hours, and thus, when it's taken is less important than i might have thought.

I tried a reduced dose (25mg), and i tried taking it in the a.m. But i continued to experience the side effects to the point that i was concerned about driving.

after two weeks, i gave up. it took a few days (don't know why) for the se's to leave.

i want to give this regimen another try, and will probably start shortly.

just reporting my own experience. good luck to all.

I felt slightly nauseous the first 2 days. Sometiomes I do feel a very slight buzz right after I take the tablet but it is so subtle, I am never sure. Usually I don't feel anything.

I guess you are hyper-sensitive to the chemicals.

[irishgal]

drinking on Naltrexone (sinclair method)

naltrexone etc.

hi all,
I ordered the naltrexone product from river pharmacy, and plan to start it today. it is the same place as the topiramate recommened place in the mwo book, and the medication is supposed to be the same as here. i too have done alot of research on this medication and how it works, basically removing the 'affects' in your brain of the alcohol and therefore hopefully lessoning the desire for it. I'm going to start today and would love to compare notes with others here. I came across this method through online research into moderation programs and it is becoming a bit more acceptable in the us; the aa thing clearly doesn't work as there are so many people out there for whom that doesn't work and just live miserably with their problem. luck to all! (p.s. i am also watching my diet and elimating sugar and 'white' carbs as I believe that makes everything worse and taking the supplements recommended in mwo' as well as cd's being used).

[bloggy]

drinking on Naltrexone (sinclair method)

Hi Irish

It sounds like you have everything in place to begin! It sounds like a good idea to take the Naltrexone and the MWO supps.

I don't know if you have read the book by Dr. Roy Eskapa, "The Cure for Alcoholism" you can get it on Amazon.com but not on Amazon.co.uk yet.

It is a very interesting read, and explains some things that you don't really find online about the Sinclair method.

There are quite a few people using this method now, so you can ask questions in the 'Strictly Sinclair' threads or there is a new community set up at thesinclairmethod.com • Index page for folk following the Sinclair method.

:welcome:

[bloggy]

drinking on Naltrexone (sinclair method)

tjcmwo;539957 wrote: in december i tried the Naltrexone/Sinclair approach, at 50mg, one hour before. I had terrible side effects (extreme fatigue, spacial disorientation, and sleep disturbance). i consulted with an md who understands the pharmacology. he said the 'half life' is 24 hours, and thus, when it's taken is less important than i might have thought.

I tried a reduced dose (25mg), and i tried taking it in the a.m. But i continued to experience the side effects to the point that i was concerned about driving.

after two weeks, i gave up. it took a few days (don't know why) for the se's to leave.

i want to give this regimen another try, and will probably start shortly.

just reporting my own experience. good luck to all.

I had a similar experience in October TJ. I never went above the 25mg as I felt nauseous and like you say a bit spaced.

I am giving it another shot now, and I wonder if (as we are only supposed to take it an hour before we are going to drink) that by throwing a few alcohol free days in, and therefore no Naltrexone if I may be able to lessen the side effects.

[me1455]

drinking on Naltrexone (sinclair method)

topa vs nal

im set to start the nal soon.. i took topa for a bit but couldnt take it due to side effects. does drinking on the nal feel thesame as drinking on topamax?

[LaBear]

drinking on Naltrexone (sinclair method)

For me there is not much of a difference. This is something that is different for each individual.