Antabuse implant

[beatle]

Antabuse implant

Many doctors all over the world are VERY careful about prescribing antabuse because it can so easily lead to dire consequences (like death, as Britz subtly pointed out). One problem is that many people try to "trick" it, or just test the limits. The other problem is that most people do not have a complete knowledge or control over everything that goes into their mouths (eating out, eating at other people's homes, etc.) and even cosmetics can trigger a reaction. It is quite hard to stay entirely away from alcohol in all its many forms.

One member on these MWO boards was taking antabuse, but didn't tell her friends (which is not strange or unusual). Anyway, they tried to get her to drink at a party and she declined, so they secretly spiked a drink and gave it to her-- she ended up in hospital ER. In other words, it's dangerous, even if the patient diligently complies with the restrictions.

[beatle]

Antabuse implant

That's a good question -- I don't know if anything else came to light, but I don't think so. However, it could be that there have been an increasing number of antabuse incidents and this information has trickled through to the doctors who might not normally follow the development of substance dependancy medicine.

[bernard]

Antabuse implant

In his overarching treatise on the epidemiology of alcoholism, The Natural History of Alcoholism, Revisited (1995), Professor George Valliant takes a dim view of disulfiram based on its long history of ineffectiveness. In explanation for its failure, he writes "the drug takes alcohol away and replaces it with nothing" (p. 232). Moreover, it is born of a punishing and judgmental spirit. Further, it is dangerous because it blocks part of the body's natural system of toxin breakdown and elimination.

My own view is that their must be something positive about alcohol (ooohhhhhh, the devil you say!), or people wouldn't get addicted to it. For Ameisen, his stage-fright and insecurity in social settings was cured by alcohol.

Thus the beauty of the delightful GABAb agonist that has been hiding in plain sight all these years. Baclofen supplies the good effects of alcohol without the bad effects, and thus obviates the addict's need for alcohol. It naturally pushes alcohol out of the limelight by providing the same or superior service at a far, far cheaper cost.

[beatle]

Antabuse implant

Bernard, How well you boiled it all down to the essence of the matter.

I would not be where I am today if not for alcohol. It did give me the ability to increase my professional performance for several years before it wrecked my life.

As I said, I would not be where I am today if not for alcohol.

[veritas]

Antabuse implant

Ante buse blocks a certain enzyme that helps the liver break down the alcohol. The horrible side effects when drinking on ante buse are caused by the build up of ammonia. I know, because I have felt the headache, nausea, pounding heart and I have lit up like a candle. It makes a hot flush look like a minor inconvenience.

For a long time it was a fairly standard practice at rehab clinics. It was implanted just under the skin in an unobtrusive spot and people were expected to be able to change behavior by the time it stopped working.

There were too many bad consequences though. As I said before, it does not take away cravings. People were known to dig the implant out themselves, test the limits...... and it was sometimes implanted in people who had knocked out too many brain cells to deal with the discipline needed to refrain from drinking.

I had to go through a couple of doctors to get a perscription. Two told me that my problem was not serious enough and the last one did not know me well enough to trust me not to drink. He did eventually write out a script, but with reluctance. I then went to a pharmacy, only to be told that they could only supply enough for a week and would have to order from the suppliers. I got the feeling that they were not used to filling the perscription. This was not a small pharmacy, but a major pharmacy in a large, busy medical clinic.

I know of a woman who had her child taken away. A psychologist suggested that the courts return her baby if she agree to an implant. She was actually a very good mother when sober. The family actually had to obtain a court order to protect the doctor doing the implant and it had to be ordered from overseas.

[lylielampton]

Antabuse implant

petshop;647195 wrote: :new:
I had an antabuse implant inserted in Sydney - it failed. One week after implantation I tested it out - VERY slowly as I am well aware of the effects of antabuse. No result whatsoever except getting drunk, that is.

I am in the process of making a formal complaint about the clinic that provided the "service" which was very expensive and I have now been informed has delivered several failures. I believe health professionals should not offer a service (especially such an invasive one) without absolute confidence that the outcome will be successful.

I have been sober ever since though - 2 months now. Yay!!

My husband has had the same experience. he has has the impants for 6 weeks now and has tried it (and tried to deny it) and all he does is sleep - no different from when he drank before the implants. very dissappointing as I thought this would be his answer

[Greg]

Antabuse implant

lylielampton;725873 wrote: My husband has had the same experience. he has has the impants for 6 weeks now and has tried it (and tried to deny it) and all he does is sleep - no different from when he drank before the implants. very dissappointing as I thought this would be his answer

I personally emailed and also phoned one of the people who runs the Australian clinic where petshop had his Antabuse implant surgery performed. Of course I didn't mention anyone's name or even this forum. I had actually called the alcohol and drug information line to ask about Antabuse implants, and they told me that this clinic was the only one performing implants. Anyway the lady running the clinic told me they are no longer willing to use Antabuse implants due to the fact that they are not reliable, and often don't keep enough of the active ingredient disulfiram in the bloodstream to give the patient a bad reaction if they try to drink. She said some form of disulfiram injection may be available in a year or so but gave no more details, and said her clinic now prefers to surgically insert naltrexone implants for alcoholism (at a cost of up to $2000). I've had a few bad (depressive) reactions to naltrexone so I didn't personally chase it up, but an implant could be very effective for daily drinkers, since it would probably automatically cause the Sinclair Method to occur in those people who drink heavily on a daily basis. I hope this information is of some help, even though it is only based on my information from one country.

[dolphinfriendly]

Antabuse implant

load of rubbish.

I paid ?3000 to "Aluston Health" (Lativa)
The implant did not work for me. I know of 2 other people as well. unable to expose them for fear of getting names in paper. Too much at risk.
In my opioion it is a con do NOT use this com

[Sunnyvalenting]

Antabuse implant

There is also depo naltrexone. One clinic claimed 100% success (so I doubt its veracity)
Baclofen oral is apparently about 80% effective in reducing harmful drinking at adequate doses. I wish there were a safe 100% effective long lasting inexpensive treatment for alcohol dependence.
Sunny

[tto99]

Antabuse implant

Antabuse implants are widely popular treatment of alcoholism in Russia. I have no statistics but assume there are thousands implants made every day. The cost is very cheap- about 100-200 dollars if I remember correctly.
It comes in different forms – implants of crushed tablets or injection of disulfiram emulsion.
In my opinion and well as in opinion of many Russians this treatment has mostly psychological value. Disulfiram is being quickly washed out of body and an implant becomes absolutely useless after 3-4 months.

[rtr]

Antabuse implant

The Implant worked for me

dolphinfriendly;984040 wrote: I paid ?3000 to "Aluston Health" (Lativa)
The implant does NOT work. Not just me but I know of 2 other people as well. unable to expose them for fear of getting names in paper. Too much at risk.
it is a con do NOT use this company.

I recived treatment Implant From Aluston Health, And it works for me im realy happy I havent had any alcohol since february 2010, I tried all treatments before and none worked. My family are so happy and I got my kids my husband back im so happy!

[Wally22]

Antabuse implant

Hm intersting that this thread was bumped today. I take antabuse orally and was considering cutting back to one every two days as I find I am a groggy in the morning.
However I have never even considered "TESTING". It could be gelatin for all I know, although I sincerely doubt it. I'm glad the implant worked for you RTR. Happy to see your life is back on track.

[rtr]

Antabuse implant

Wally22;988438 wrote: Hm intersting that this thread was bumped today. I take antabuse orally and was considering cutting back to one every two days as I find I am a groggy in the morning.
However I have never even considered "TESTING". It could be gelatin for all I know, although I sincerely doubt it. I'm glad the implant worked for you RTR. Happy to see your life is back on track.

Thankyou the antabuse implant was was my last chance it lasts for about a year but im moving to oral next month, im pleased its working for you good luck

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Antabuse implant

I think it would be a really, really good idea if we all made sure that Aluston Health was marked as one to avoid at all costs. Thanks James224! and the other two, as well.
Feckin shills

[james224]

Antabuse implant

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