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**betty boop** · April 18, 2008, 05:40 PM

Another possible Champix related suicide

Hippie, thanks for posting that, It is awful ........

Hope that they withdraw it soon ..........

BB xx

**Cinders** · April 18, 2008, 05:50 PM

Another possible Champix related suicide

Hippie,

I had been taking Chantix (here in the US, it is Chantix) as well as the Gabapentin and Antabuse.

I decided to stop the Chantix because I was adding too many things at one time. I can renew script anytime I want.

I think I'll wait and see how things go before I do.

Thanks for posting this. I had been reading about these "odd" suicides or bizarre behavior episodes blamed on Chantix and thought it could be brushed off due to usual statistical stuff, but this story does sound odd and now anecdotal evidence is starting to add up.

It would be my luck to finally quit drinking only to commit suicide or go postal and end up in jail while trying to quit smoking.

Love,
Cindi
XXXIV

**MyHeartIsDrenchedInWine** · April 18, 2008, 06:49 PM

Another possible Champix related suicide

Wow

**boozehag** · April 18, 2008, 08:07 PM

Another possible Champix related suicide

Holy shite. I am taking it but only the intial .5mg dose. I am just about to take today's dose. That is so scary but I am also scared to come off it as today is day 19 AF and nicotene free. I was planning on staying on it for 30 days and then trying without it. I have had no side effects and certainly no depressive thoughts quite the reverse I have been full of energy and really on a high given the lack of hangovers and cigs. Just goes to show there is really no such thing as a magic pill is there. I am going to have to keep taking it as I cant risk going back on the AL and cigs which will kill me anyway.
Scared though!.
BH

**gemmy1** · April 18, 2008, 11:28 PM

Another possible Champix related suicide

I read the same on Champix

I was about to ask for it until I seen the article. Whow quit drinking and smoking and lose weight at the same time? Now that is some drug that is legal! and kills.. Pretty scary.
Just seacrh for yourself

**barebones** · April 19, 2008, 01:13 AM

Another possible Champix related suicide

i just started chamtix, i went to doctor and spoke of my concerns and that and he put my mind to rest. i trust my docotr 100% he checked to make sure that there would be no complications with my other meds, also we both know i suffer from depression and anxiety and other things aswell. so he did say if i go lower than i usualy do and its very quick is to come of them and see him. the other thing he said i may not have a prob is because im on anti depressants anyway, so all we can do is see, ive been on them 4 days so far, i have been feeling a bit sick, unsure if its the tablets or not as it could be my diet im on. also the doc said from all the patience who has been on them here is that they have had no problems.

i would like to say about the suicide rate supposibly from this drug is that as u know when quitting smoking anyway u can get depressed, also who knows the underlining of that individual phsychology in first place, he may of had depression anyway. as we know and as i havent read the article yet to see if its uk or usa, is uk is following the sensational ways of what the usa media does. no offence to my bro and sis in usa but its a fact here in how ur media sensationlises things. one other thing my doc said, is that usa will find faults with things as they do sue alot. he didnt say it that words but thats his meaning.

sry if i offended anyone here but this is the way i look at things compared to medications, everyone is different, everyone can have underline probs pyhscologicaly, so its all trial and error. one last thing is how long was the guy suffering with depression before he did that act? we dont know. but as i said that my doc said if there was a rapid downfall in my mood is to come off it.

so thats my penny worth and change with it lol

**hippie37** · April 19, 2008, 03:29 AM

Another possible Champix related suicide

I agree totally barebones. The newspapers have always been edited according to their political persuasion and story's have, and always will be sensationalised to provoke reactions in people to make them think inline with the bigger agenda. And if anyone is naive enough to think otherwise they best stick to reading their Barbara Cartland and Jilly Cooper 'novels'. Think how dull some of the Hollywood blockbuster movies would be if those films based on 'true events' where not in some way embellished or romanticised slightly. They would be flops at the cinema and likewise sensationalising news stories sells papers.

I've always been to taught to question things about the world and it's probably why I have a dislike for governments and those in authority so I have always been one to 'read between the lines'. If this was simply a one-off story of a man committing suicide, who happened to be taking Champix to combat his smoking addiction then I would not automatically believe Champix was the cause or rather catalyst in his death. But when you look at the statistics, and not just from reading this article, mind due, but many other articles on the web etc you would have to agree they speak volumes.

I have in the past been a typical Knee-jerk reactionary particularly over issues close to my heart that may of caused me, in the past, to be biased with my own opinion. This making me no better than the media moguls creating that reaction in me. Being sober and challenging my own automatic negative thoughts though keeps me from doing this.

OK I would just like to comment as well that the 2 people I personally know who have taken it have had different reactions. One of those nearly became one of the statistics and came off it after a month. She was ill and became very depressed and almost suicidal. The other didn't have a bad word to say about it and thought it was an amazing drug. He had tried everything in the past including hypnotherapy and acupuncture and nothing worked for him over a period of about 10 years before he was finally prescribed this drug in 2005. Obviously he is going to have biased opinion then as it has turned his life around apparently. The one common denominator they both had was that they are both recovering alcoholics, Oh!, and they're both Scottish!!!lol. They both told me as well that their GP's would not prescribe this drug if they were taking any kind of SSRI's or anti-depressants. So although I'm no medical doctor or qualified to make comment on this particular matter I would still strongly suggest barebones you check this out further.

RIGHT! Morning rant over....I'm off to get some breakfast!!

Love and Happiness
Hippie
xx

p.s. IF YOUR NOT PARANOID......YOU'RE NOT PAYING ENOUGH ATTENTION!!!!!!

**Shikakai** · April 19, 2008, 10:52 AM

Another possible Champix related suicide

When are we going to finally realize the government doesn't care about us? It just cares about money! :durn:

**barebones** · April 19, 2008, 11:08 AM

Another possible Champix related suicide

lol hippie i like ur ps

i would agree with u about yes there is stastistics of depression/ suicide on this drug. but what i know about mental illness and ive read about why u shouldnt be on this drug. is one is that u have any mental illness at all is that it will make the illness worse. that saying if u know and acknowelge that u have a mental illness. alot of people dont. also u will never know what ur brain chemistry is like anyway untill u start to have symptoms with or without meds.

like any drug it does have and will produce diffrent chemical reaction, ie some anti depressants can cause suicide feelings, so can anti psychotics, about that is u can never say if it was due to just the med or the persons own chemistry. the anti d that have warning of suicide as side effect is i think good idea. so i feel really chamtix should if the stastictics show that suicide is the case is to have a warning label on it. it doesnt mean that it should be tooken off the shelves.

right i guess better take my dog out. speak to u all soon, take care.

**hippie37** · April 19, 2008, 04:17 PM

Another possible Champix related suicide

Shikakai;312972 wrote: When are we going to finally realize the government doesn't care about us? It just cares about money! :durn:

Less of the 'WE' Shikakai!!lol

I realised many years ago growing up in Thatcher's Britain during the 80's that our government didn't give a shit. I gave up caring in the past after trying too hard to make a difference and it probably played a major role in my downfall with alcohol and drugs. Things I was passionate about then though are starting to make a difference to my life now and I'm less bitter and twisted than I once was. I seem to have found some maturity in my opinions which I could never of done all those years ago while I was still drinking and fueling my brain with alcoholic thoughts.

Love and Happiness
Hippie
xx

p.s. If you haven't already heard of and seen George Carlin I would recommend you do.

**Dolly Sunshine** · April 19, 2008, 04:34 PM

Another possible Champix related suicide

The government has nothing to do with our sobriety. We have everything to do with it.

**Shikakai** · April 19, 2008, 09:29 PM

Another possible Champix related suicide

hippie37;313071 wrote: Less of the 'WE' Shikakai!!lol

I realised many years ago growing up in Thatcher's Britain during the 80's that our government didn't give a shit. I gave up caring in the past after trying too hard to make a difference and it probably played a major role in my downfall with alcohol and drugs. Things I was passionate about then though are starting to make a difference to my life now and I'm less bitter and twisted than I once was. I seem to have found some maturity in my opinions which I could never of done all those years ago while I was still drinking and fueling my brain with alcoholic thoughts.

Love and Happiness
Hippie
xx

p.s. If you haven't already heard of and seen George Carlin I would recommend you do.

Thank you, Hip... I too have "turned the corner"

I get it now and don't care half as much about things that I was "encouraged" to care about, as if the people behind those things ever gave a rat's a$$ about me.

**FloridaBoy** · April 21, 2008, 09:20 AM

Another possible Champix related suicide

I have read some of the stories about suicide and I have also read that some people that had ill effects were not taking it properly.....not drinking enough water etc. I am going to try it and will be very careful. Maybe I will get lucky and not have any issues. I will post here when I start.

**FloridaBoy** · April 23, 2008, 05:34 PM

Another possible Champix related suicide

Here is a recent story.

National News - Risk of depression dims hopes for anti-addiction pills

I am going to stay with the .5mg dose and see what happens.

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