Strictly Sinclair Week 2

[lenaleed]

Strictly Sinclair Week 2

Last word? I have explained to Zman that he is not banned, warned or unwelcome at the TSM board. I moderate there and did delete one of three duplicitave posts so people did not start responding all over the place on our little board. Nick has edited his post questioning Zman's motives and apologized.

I removed the old thread about potentially banning lurkers.

While some feelings may have been hurt, I hope that's over. We got some much-needed feedback about what our little board looks like to visitors. When a community is small, it's easy to lose sight of the fact that what we say is out there for the world to see. So it's been a good lesson.

Onward & upward . . . . lena

[minneapolisnick]

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AN APOLOGY

Zman --

I was wrong to question your motives on the TSM board. I'll offer a brief explanation for my actions, which upon further review, were inappropriate.

There are several people --many in the camp of AA -- who think that drinking on naltrexone is "immoral" and who strenuously object to TSM. They have made appearances on our board in the past, feigning interest in TSM, but adding nothing in their posts, other than questioning the conclusion that TSM is an effective treatment. In other words, their true intention for posting is to discourage people from trying TSM, a proven, highly-effective cure for alcoholism. As someone who is in the process of being cured myself (no more weekly hangovers, withdrawals, weekly blackouts or bad behavior since starting the program, together with reduced consumption and cravings), and as someone who has personally witnessed ten people on the board declare themselves "cured" just in the past several weeks, I know for a FACT that TSM works.

With that as background, I am concerned that people who browse the forum may decide not to try what is clearly a life-saving treatment for many because of false information being propagated on the site. I read all of your posts and each and every one effectively questioned whether TSM works, while setting forth an unverified and inaccurate theory that if you have a sweet tooth, TSM will not work for you. These facts led me to the false conclusion that you were one of the lurkers whose true intent was not to try out TSM, but instead to discourage others from trying the method.

I have now reviewed some of your posts on this cite. (I am not a regular here.) And after reading your posts, I was wrong to call into question your motives -- you clearly are sincere, just looking for answers, like the rest of us. I apologize for questioning your motives and I have edited my post at the other site. The edited version does not call into question your motives and offers an apology.

I sincerely apologize for upsetting you with my incorrect assumptions about your intent. I wish you all the best. And I do hope you try TSM -- it has been nothing short of a miracle for the vast majority of those who have tried it on our site (not to mention the hundreds of thousands in Europe).

Sincerely,

Minneapolisnick

[lenaleed]

Strictly Sinclair Week 2

minneapolisnick;697554 wrote: no more . . . bad behavior

Well, maybe in real life, but we have to keep him on a short leash over at the TSM board!!!:H:H:H:H:H:H:
lena

[Lusus Naturae]

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One more bit from me, and I'll be off this thing for good. I promise.

Waiting, sorry for throwing you under the bus. A song comes to mind:

The wheels on the bus go round and round (thump)
Round and round (thump)
Round and round (thump)

Oh yes, I remember, that's the adult version. The bus is parked (and nasty gunk poured into the engine to permanently disable it).

Sorry.

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[WaitingToExhale]

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Non issue Lusus - no worries. We're all fighting the same beast.

It is only my hope that anyone new to either forum makes a sincere point of educating himself or herself before they make choices. There are serious upsides and downsides to every method that is being tried. TSM., Bac, Topa and it all.

My "hoopla" reference was simply a fact that well over 60% of all of the threads in this section have been dealing with Bac the past few months. I see someone perhaps a bit scared, a bit at the edge, searching desperately (have we not all been there??) and my only hope is they do their homework before they decide which is the best path for them. Please everyone just get yourself educated on your options.

And having said that - I will CHEER to the finish line for all of us to succeed!!

Over and out! HA!

[Lusus Naturae]

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I agree wholeheatedly. Whether you're under a doctor's care or going it alone, in all cases it's necessary to educate yourself. At least doubly so if you're going it alone.

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[Lusus Naturae]

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The post by happy brings me back to my response to Waiting, which started my involvement in this thread. It seems there is a shared bit of misinformation floating around, and I'd again like to address that.

I answered Waiting's assertion that bac must be taken for life, and not nal. There's a bit more detail about my thinking in my second answer to Waiting.

The assertion that bac must be taken for life in high doses is, from my reading, partly or wholely incorrect. I may be reaching in my hope that bac may not need to be taken for life. I think the anecdotal evidence thus far does indicate that it does not have to be taken in large quantities. Dr. A titrated down without losing the beneficial effects, as have people in this forum.

The assertion that nal is not taken for life is also, from my reading, not entirely true. It does have to be taken for life if you continue to drink. If you drink moderately (say one or two units three times a week), you would have to take nal thrice weekly. That sounds like a lifetime commitment to me.

My 2 cents worth...

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[aurora borialis]

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i have no sweet tooth

I wonder what is happening then with me because I have no sweet tooth and have never had. Maybe I am one the percent it may not work for me. I don't know.

[Zman]

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Potato, I think the sweet tooth thing is a non-issue.

But are you the same Potato as on the TSm boards? I thought you had reached extinction?

[aurora borialis]

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Yes it is the same me as on the boards and I have reached a great place with extinction but I noticed a change lately when things in life got suddenly alot more stressful. I have always been fine during my recovery with Sinclair method but throughout my recovery I always noticed that when I had a stressful event the drinking still excelerated to a certian degree. I will put that question to Dr Eskapa as to why this seems to be happening more lately. I actually saw an article online that said Naltrexone was effective in one type of craving but not in stress induced cravings. I printed it a while ago so I will try to find it again. It was a good article as I recall.

[aurora borialis]

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I love these people and am starting to know them well. It is crazy.

[Blondemerlot]

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Help

I am on the 12th week of Naltrexone.I haven't noted any difference in my drinking pattern.If I happen to have a few AF days and drink the next day is the only time that I get slightly nauseous if I drink. I am becoming discouraged.The problem is there are very few AF days.Need encouragement. I read Eskapa's book.
Thanks,any advice will be appreciated.

[lenaleed]

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There's a board where we're doing TSM and offer one another support. Three months is the minimum time you would notice significant results. Remember, the book says it takes at least three to four months. Patience is key.
thesinclairmethod.com • Index page

[Cinders]

Strictly Sinclair Week 2

Blondemerlot,

I hope you check out the link the Lenaleed posted. If you read through the threads of the specific people doing the Sinclair method, you will find many, many there did not hit extinction by 12 weeks.

You are also more than welcome here, I would love to hear how you progress and it would be very helpful for those who are looking at different methods of dealing with their drinking.

Don't give up on it, keep at it, keep the faith. It seems that one magical day, the Naltrexone and the extinction really works.

Sending strength and hope,
Cindi

[pinkmilk]

Strictly Sinclair Week 2

Three and a half months on Naltrexone

Hi everyone,
sorry to but in, but I am getting a bit desperate.
I have been on the Naltrexone for three and a half months now. Drinking is still the same, about a bottle and a half of wine each night.
My husband's patience is running very thin.
And actually so is mine. Maybe the system won't work for me at all.
I was so hoping it would. :0(
Getting fatter and fatter all the time and started to think maybe I better cut out food as much as possible - anything other than not drinking...
Also, in the last two months or so I have developed this shaking, just can't keep my hands still and even typing just now is causing me some problems. I have started to worry that people will notice. Is this because I'm an alcoholic now or could it be a side effect of the Naltrexone?
I have read the book, that's why I started the Naltrexone and it says that it can take four months before any difference can be seen. Why does it take this long? I still crave alcohol and haven't even attempted any AF days since I started.
Anyone knows how many people this method doesn't work for? And where to go from here?
Feeling really low today :upset:
And I just have to spend more time on the Forum again, I feel so lonely with this...
C