Eskapa's Book, The Cure for Alcoholism

[gyco]

Eskapa's Book, The Cure for Alcoholism

hi all again i to could not access the site but it did say it will take time,the more sites the merrier hahha,hi marbs,that is the thing i said about pills to,for 10 years i was treted by doctors,who really didnt have a clue what they were treating,assumeed that, or this is the problem,lack of teaching on there part,i took valuum,ssrs,ssts and the good lord only knows what else,sleeping pills by the hand fulls,pills dont work,they add to the delemma,dont take me wrong,or be offended ,thats the mind set of many humans,including doctors,take a pill,one way and only one way to stop the nonsense,[Drink],just stop drinking,proven fact,we no how to drink,we dont no how to ive sober marbs good luck to you

[SpringerRider]

Eskapa's Book, The Cure for Alcoholism

Hey Gyco,
Let's play a what if game. You don't have to agree but just entertain yourself with the possibilities.

What if an alcoholic could take a pill and no longer experience the craving of alcohol?
What if he were able to sit in a restaurant and drink a beer or two with his meal and leave totally satisfied?
What if previous alcohol addicts could drink a few drinks, stop after acquiring a warm glow and drink no more that night without feeling like they were wearing a hair sweater?
What if, being invited to a party or meeting at an American Legion, VFW or Lions Club does not require that you go through spiritual preparations, calls to your sponsor and mental preparation just as if you were walking into a mine field?
What if you simply had to take a tablet IF YOU CHOOSE TO DRINK, that guarantees you won’t imbibe until you are dancing naked up until you puked your guts out?
What if holidays with friends and family are no longer threatening because it no longer matters if you drink since you won’t have the desire to drink to excess?
What if your child was going out with friends and you said to him/her, take this tablet now, knowing that it will suppress a trigger to drink to excess and possibly save their lives?

You may not believe the above is possible and that is not important. But if it was, would it be a good thing?
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[SpringerRider]

Eskapa's Book, The Cure for Alcoholism

Okay ya'll,
We Sinclairians are back. We decided that it was way too peaceful over here without us. So let's get it going again. We have all become a little more knowledgable of the Sinclair Method as of late for Dr. Eskapa has been schooling us. We are happy to share our wisdom with those that have some curiosity.

Ask on.

[Q_]

Eskapa's Book, The Cure for Alcoholism

Well put SR.

Gyco,

You are looking at this from the standpoint of your past experiences.

100 years ago if you contracted a serious infection, it usually was a death sentence. What if you were to walk up to a doctor in that day and said "I have a pill that will cure most of those infections (penicilan)." It would have seemed impossible at that time, but in 1928 it became a reality. This is the way of medicine. Scientists search and look and perform studies, then hopefully and eventually a solution or cure is found.

This is what The Sinclair Method is. It has cured thousands of people in Finland and is just now starting to be used here in the US with 80%-90% success.

These are the numbers, the actual published facts; not something people are just making up. Heres another fact: 80%+ of those who attempt a 12-step/abstinence type program fail and relapse.

What have you got to lose besides 3-4 months giving it a shot.

[beatle]

Eskapa's Book, The Cure for Alcoholism

Isn't it that civilization progresses through people questioning, people daring to try out new ways of doing things?

As Q (welcome, to you, btw!) says: look at what was reality before and is now a thing of the past.

It frightens me that the established scientific community would stand in the way of promising, if not proven, methods of dealing with the out-of-control, devastating problem of addiction that is ruining millions of people's lives every day.

I am grateful to those of you standing up for trying out the Sinclair method. You are on the vanguard. Who knows if it will prove to be all that we hope and wish... we'll never know if we don't give it a chance.

Think Galileo. Think Christopher Columbus. Think Semmelweis.

And think about what miserable failures ALL other approaches have been.

ok, enough said. Let's get on with it.

[lenaleed]

Eskapa's Book, The Cure for Alcoholism

Well said, beatle (luv luv luv that name). We're trying to gather under one "roof". Just hop on the most active Sinclair thread. Lena

[beatle]

Eskapa's Book, The Cure for Alcoholism

I's become almost a full-time job just following these threads! How do I know which one is "the most active?"

[SpringerRider]

Eskapa's Book, The Cure for Alcoholism

Well this thread does have a purpose. Whereas the others were more along the lines of personal experiences, this is more to discuss issues in the book of the same name. I would also see this thread as useful in discussing social/cultural/political ramifications of the Sinclair Method, even though not definitively in the book yet too abstract to make into a personal experience thread.

One disappointment I had in the entire Sinclair Method was that never Sinclair or Eskapa were alcoholics. Of course, you can be an excellent scientist without being alcoholic and I don't believe it "takes one to know one". Eskapa says in a sentimental tone how he lost a friend to alcoholism. Though sad, that is quite different than understanding the inner workings of someone addicted to alcohol. Dr. Sinclair doesn't go into much detail either way.

If there had been a third member, even one that joined in after the fact, to act as a psychological interpreter, I would have many questions for that person. That person would have worked closely with Sinclair/Eskapa to explain the inner process they were undergoing and relate that to them. The testimonials at the back of the book are reported as newspaper articles rather then experiences I can relate too.

I guess that is the role we are acting for each other right now. Notice how we are interrogating each other and asking, "should I be feeling this or that right now?". With as vast as the studies have been, all of that should have been clearly documented by now. Yet we all still feel like Major Tom.

[beatle]

Eskapa's Book, The Cure for Alcoholism

Very interesting thoughts, Springer. I can understand you feel like Major Tom. But please don't get lost in space. There are many of us who want to hear about your progress.

I'll bet some future researcher will find these posts and this forum a significant source for further work in addiction studies.

[SpringerRider]

Eskapa's Book, The Cure for Alcoholism

I am trying to find anyone/everyone with long term progress on the Sinclair Method. Other than being in a coma, I would have suspected anyone that has used the method and was present on this forum would have spoke up by now. But just in case… let it be known that you would be a celebrity of unbelievable proportion if you came forward. Sinclair states that his method started in the 1970’s. It is hard to imagine that someone who started the Sinclair Method did not record their adventure, outside of disco bars and leisure suits.

If you are the Ann Frank of the Sinclair Method or know of someone and don’t mind outing him/her, we would sure like to hear from you. The few and the many are here are now laying the bedrock for the Sinclair Method. If this is as good as it gets, I will take it. But if we can find additional validation, that would be great.

[SpringerRider]

Eskapa's Book, The Cure for Alcoholism

This was once a lively thread. I guess the interest in the Sinclair Method has died down. I am approaching 2 months and I believe I am at a point where drinking is my choice. I do drink. I ahve to continue with the extintion process. I will drink up to six months to some degree.

My drinking sessions are now 4 to 5 drinks but 2 and off to bed is not uncommon. This has been a true turning point in my life. Even though I have had 12 years sober, initially from AA and the last fours years simply on my own, this is different.

Alcohol is not frightening. It is my friend. It is making me healthy. This whole affair is surreal.

[cyclefan]

Eskapa's Book, The Cure for Alcoholism

It is surreal. It is like having to eat chocolate to lose weight. It's what...cognitive dissonance. I'm so happy to hear that the Sinclair Method is effective for you SpringerRider.

[SpringerRider]

Eskapa's Book, The Cure for Alcoholism

cyclefan;556912 wrote: It is surreal. It is like having to eat chocolate to lose weight. It's what...cognitive dissonance. I'm so happy to hear that the Sinclair Method is effective for you SpringerRider.

Thanks CycleFan
And best to you.

[bloggy]

Eskapa's Book, The Cure for Alcoholism

I too am thrilled that it is working for you SR, not only, but partly because I am right behind you...

I have just finished week 2, first week I drank only 19 units and struggled with them. Last week I was back up to 31 units.

However that is perfectly in line with what Dr Sinclair says will happen- SR are you having alcohol free days yet- apart from the ones where your work/travelling might make it difficult for you to drink?

[SpringerRider]

Eskapa's Book, The Cure for Alcoholism

marbella;557020 wrote: I too am thrilled that it is working for you SR, not only, but partly because I am right behind you...
SR are you having alcohol free days yet- apart from the ones where your work/travelling might make it difficult for you to drink?

Not really but here I am little confused about the program. There are several evenings where I could go to bed without drinking but I think, oh what the hell, I guess I will work on the cure.

Not drinking is not moving closer to the being cured. As I want to get going with it, I take my Nal and drink.

Last night I drank more than before. About 8 drinks. Mainly because I had two beers early and took a Nap. Nal aways makes me sleepy. Later when I go up, I drank some more.

That has been my other concern. Let us say I go to a company picnic, take Nal at 11:00 AM and drink beer at the picnic and then go home and crash. At 9 PM I go to a bar. Am I still covered by the Nal?