Eskapa's Book, The Cure for Alcoholism

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SR and all... I haven't lost interest in this topic at all, but don't really have any more questions that can be answered in the short term. I'm very happy for all of you who are finding that this has helped you to significantly reduce your consumption, overall! The unanswered questions, for me, all have to do with how things will be going, for most people who are using this method, after 6 months, a year, 2 years, 5 years... If the numbers that Sinclair claims (not yet published in peer-reviewed journals, but I take him at his word), that 50% of the people he has worked with are either not drinking, or are drinking within healthy limits after 6 months or a year, then that's pretty damned good! Then the questions will be (at least) 3: what about the 50% who are non-adherent, who drop out, or who fail? And, second, how does the situation look after 2 years, and further out? And, finally, are there any troubling side effects we don't know about, yet?

[SpringerRider]

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Those are all valid questions and you are not the only one to ask them. I too am dissapointed that there is so little literature on this subject and what I do find is a rehash of the same story.

Having said that, I am moving forward. All of us are reporting progress. Of course, without a true means of metrics collection, we run the risk of the "King's New Clothes" syndrome. Participants may report much better progress then they are experiencing so as not to appear to be the only failure.

Check and see how we are doing. I will always give a fair assessment of my status. As I said in the beginning, I will give this six months.

Thanks

[francophone]

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lenaleed;538339 wrote: Gosh, you guys are cutting into my cocktail hour (WIP: humor attempt alert).
WIP -- I see no ignorance from you whatever; I see brilliance and earnest motive to contribute to constructive dialogue. Will it help if I double my offer (to $30) to contribute to a nonprofit if you feel sullied after having bought the book and read it? Yes, the exploiters are out there but as I said Eskapa ain't one or he's pretty darned inept at it. Eskapa explains in the book what he means by "cure". Hint: Read the book. If I keep defending the freakin' book I am going to send a bill to Eskapa but I doubt he can afford me but it drives me nuts that an academic would challenge a piece of work he or she has not read. OK I'm off my soapbox for the night.

wxyz -- I'm not Potato but she's been doing Sinclair longer than the rest of us so listen to her. I do. And Eskapa says all over the book to drink as you usually do. Just keep yourself safe. No driving, Hear?

Lena, I had a question about driving after taking Naltrexone. I usually start drinking by noontime, and pick up my 12 and 7 year-old sons from school at 2;30 and 3;15 respectively. Would it be hazardous for me to continue doing this while on Naltrexone? Their schools are only about a half-mile away, and I am only driving 20-25 mph.

I have my medical appointment this morning, I hope I can get prescription.

francophone

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PLEASE do not continue to drive while drinking, ESPECIALLY with your children in the car! If you cannot stop this any other way, I would suggest that antabuse is a MUCH better choice for you than naltrexone!

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Francophone, I agree with Wip, PLEASE dont drink and drive...

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francophone;562941 wrote: I usually start drinking by noontime, and pick up my 12 and 7 year-old sons from school at 2;30 and 3;15 respectively. Would it be hazardous for me to continue doing this while on Naltrexone? Their schools are only about a half-mile away, and I am only driving 20-25 mph.

I have my medical appointment this morning, I hope I can get prescription.

francophone

I am having trouble believing you posted this question in earnest. Assuming you did, here are a list of things you should not do while drinking.[list type=decimal][*]Operate nuclear reactors[*]shave with a straight razor[*]Ride a unicycle[*]put in or take out contacts[*]fly a plane[*]get engaged[*]ask for a divorce[*]have sex with another species[*]skydiveget tattooedgive tattoosoperate power hedgeclipperslaunch atomic weaponscut diamondsmountain climbpost on forumsdrive to school to pick up kids[/list type=decimal]

I know I forgot a couple but I am sure others may think of them.

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Excellent list, SR!

Maybe Francophone was not serious, but I fear that he was. Perhaps he is thinking that naltrexone blocks the intoxicating effects of alcohol (many people misunderstand this issue).

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A Work in Progress;563015 wrote: Excellent list, SR!

Maybe Francophone was not serious, but I fear that he was. Perhaps he is thinking that naltrexone blocks the intoxicating effects of alcohol (many people misunderstand this issue).

Maybe you are right but I hope not.

Hey Frank,
Don't let me scare you away. Stay with us. We are all a little crazy. It comes with the territory.

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francophone;562941 wrote: Lena, I had a question about driving after taking Naltrexone. I usually start drinking by noontime, and pick up my 12 and 7 year-old sons from school at 2;30 and 3;15 respectively. Would it be hazardous for me to continue doing this while on Naltrexone? Their schools are only about a half-mile away, and I am only driving 20-25 mph.

I have my medical appointment this morning, I hope I can get prescription.

francophone

Franco, I shouldn't laugh, but maybe I have a strange sense of humor- I don't think you will get it if you ask your doc the question you posted here...!

Seriously, I hope you do get it, and I guess you were joking anyway, but might be an idea to take the Nal around the time you leave to get your boys, and start drinking when you get home...

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hi everyone,i went back to the beginning of this thread and started reading again,like naltrexone it is staying alive,i for one like that,considering ive taken the stuff just once,on monday i took it at 413 pm,within 1 hour there were some interesting side effects,i for one did not have the craving feeling i get from day to day,even tho i dont have a problem stopping,i do beleive it numbs something,as far as the sex drive,thank goodness ffor the wife she was at work,i got horny hahahha,the doctor i seen was very understanding,take as required,is this a test ,i would say yes,i also got very tired,but then i was tired also b4,the thot to drink when your not is very time consuming,as far as not using and drinking as u said rider everyone tothere own,i wish all well gyco ps franco your doing the double wammy with al and nal use your head

[gyco]

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by the way thanx rider and lena and the rest of you folks who suggested this medication,i beleive like al it is sort of a crutch but if it works and you follow instructions there could be some hope

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Thank you, one and all, for all your feedback. When I pick up my sons from school, I am never legally intoxicated, i.e., with an alcohol blood content of .008 (the level for legal drunkenness in the state of Washington). My level is usually around .004-.007, the level of 2-3 drinks (beers, in my case, with an ABV of five percent) in a 200 pound male. By the way, I weigh 235 pounds.

I was concerned about the possibility of naltrexone enhancing the effect of those two-three beers, i.e., perhaps causing me to feel as if I had just drank five, or six beers. Marbella, your recommendation seems entirely sagacious, and is duly noted.

francophone

p.s.

I was prescribed naltrexone yesterday.

[gyco]

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yo franco i think its suppose to diminish the feeling,of wanting,at all , wish you well gyco

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francophone;564115 wrote: Thank you, one and all, for all your feedback. When I pick up my sons from school, I am never legally intoxicated, i.e., with an alcohol blood content of .008 (the level for legal drunkenness in the state of Washington). My level is usually around .004-.007, the level of 2-3 drinks (beers, in my case, with an ABV of five percent) in a 200 pound male.

The fact that you may not be "legally" intoxicated does NOT mean that you are not impaired. I guess I am pretty amazed that you are posting about this without any indication that it is a concern for you...

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francophone;564115 wrote: Marbella, your recommendation seems entirely sagacious, and is duly noted.

francophone

p.s.

I was prescribed naltrexone yesterday.

I had to look the word 'sagacious' up so I guess that means I am not very sagacious at all...



Good luck with the Nal.