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[francophone]

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SpringerRider;548021 wrote: Well,
If we can use this therad to track progress and Lena's thread, to explain the method, maybe we can get this ti a managable number.

I am into week 5. In a few minutes, I will go to my MD for a refill.

In the last week, I have drank 1.75 liters of Gin and ~6 beers. Not exactly tea-totalling.

I had a three week hneywmoon where my consumption had nosed dived but I was also travelling a good deal and that always reduces my drinking. Though I have not returned to my pre-Nal levels, I am a little dissapointed that I am drinking as much as I am.

The Sinclair is a parachute jump and I am in free fall. I am taking it on faith that my chute will open in tow or three months from now. Actually, it isn't faith but trust in the studies that I have read.

Ya'll have a happy valentine's day.

That's still not that bad, SR. That amounts to 46 drinks, according to my calculations. I usually drink 70-77 beers on a weekly basis. Then again, I am a stay-at-home dad, and usually begin drinking around noontime. I make off I'm Emeril Lagasse, the television chef, who seems to enjoy eliciting laughs from the audience when talking about how many beers one can probably drink during a cooking stint. Making a stew seems to offer the greatest opportunity for imbibing the most bottles/cans of beer. I can personally attest to that myself, and is one reason why I enjoy making stews.

I forgot to to make the appointment with the doctor yesterday. I need to get the Naltrexone prescription.

francophone

[SpringerRider]

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francophone;552258 wrote: That's still not that bad, SR. That amounts to 46 drinks, according to my calculations. I usually drink 70-77 beers on a weekly basis. Then again, I am a stay-at-home dad, and usually begin drinking around noontime. I make off I'm Emeril Lagasse, the television chef, who seems to enjoy eliciting laughs from the audience when talking about how many beers one can probably drink during a cooking stint. Making a stew seems to offer the greatest opportunity for imbibing the most bottles/cans of beer. I can personally attest to that myself, and is one reason why I enjoy making stews.

I forgot to to make the appointment with the doctor yesterday. I need to get the Naltrexone prescription.

francophone

I am doing better now. Seems that the rate of change, early on, is blinding. I have leveled off at 4 drinks per night. My problem is that I am nearly snoring by the third. It's like someone has been spiking my drinks with Ambien.

Franc, make all the stew you want but remember to mix in the golden rule.
Nal + Drinking = Cure

[irishgal]

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naltrexone cont.

hi all,
I have been taking naltrex for @2/3 weeks. First week, I was at 14 drinks, this week 18, down from a high of 32. Without too much trying. Also taking lots of supps. per MWO, and listening to cd's sometimes (I have a hard time making it regular). I read in online research that women actually need a higher dosage of naltrex then men due to the stomach hormones (?) that men have that allow them to digest alchohol better. Not sure if I want to go higher then 50 mg. though. I'm game to continue with that and 'see how it goes' naturally. I agree, that the compulsion to drink to excess has decreased. Also, I got my naltrexone from the River ... site, not from my regular doc., though I have regular med. tests and know my numbers are ok. I like checking in with others here to see how it works for all, as I do want to regulate and be moderate as a goal rather then abstain. Though that may come down the road just to try it out. Best to all, P.

[lenaleed]

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I've heard some unattributed comments on this site about men and women responding differently to naltrexone but I can tell you I've never heard it from a credible source. We (who all are of course alcohol experts, the hard way) know that alcohol is metabolized differently by men and women. But the dosage of naltrexone as an opioid receptor blockade, the basis of the Sinclair method, is based in the number of opioid receptors in the human brain -- NOT on metabolic factors such as weight or gender.

I also just posted elsewhere on the overblown concern about naltrexone and liver function. Naltrexone is prescribed for problem drinkers. It is metabolized by the liver. Why in the blazes would physicians NOT be admonished to do a liver function test?

Finally: PLEASE ALL HEED: Taking naltrexone is NOT the same thing as doing the Sinclair Method. We doing Sinclair have put a great deal of time & energy posting how we use this med. Please read if you are interested in trying Sinclair. Lena

[lenaleed]

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I just want to add that those of us who have chosen to order from an online pharmacy have a heightened responsibility to ourselves to educate ourselves about the drugs we are using and how we are using them.

[Hundi]

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That makes a lot of sense Lena. I think we have to keep men and women in proportion though and ofcourse self educate. Most of us are adults - blessed with a brain.

I Love what you and Srpringer are doing here - the rest is up to us. With your thankfull help

Huxley was a clever bloke too.... I think.....


I will fix my avatar as my son insists

[SpringerRider]

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Hundi;550285 wrote: Hi SpringerRider

Thanks for the reply - I managed to get a bit more info after I posted. I went and bloods done with my dr this morning, but he thought the Sinclair method was right up my Ally,
Hundi

Have you started Sinclair?

[Moderatedrinker]

Hello
Im new here. Ive been trying to moderate my drinking for some time on my own with just keeping count but have been unsuccessful. I was thinking I would really just need to quit altogether. However I came across the Sinclair method and it sounded like a great method for me as I use alcohol to deal with problems and stress. I just asked my GP for naltrexone and he didn't know much about it. I didnt mention the method. He was reluctant at first but then found that he was allowed to prescribe without any permission needed. The only requirement was that it be in combination with a program. I had also applied for a mental health plan and was starting sessions with SMART recovery so he went ahead and prescribed it. I took 50mg (should have taken 25mg I see now!) on Wednesday then an hour later had a beer and did not get that first rush that I always get when having that first mouthful. I waited for it but nothing!
I finished the beer but it took heaps longer than usual and the bottle just wasnt on my mind as usual. About half an hour later I had a another beer and had the same experience. I didnt want another one.I was thinking this is great- this is really going to help me
I had trouble sleeping that night more than usual and in the morning woke up with a really puffy swollen eye.It was quite noticeable. It seemed like an allergic reaction- has anyone else experienced this? The eye went down after a few hours. I went to a SMart meeting and was told off by the leader for taking the drug with drinking. I tried to explain the method but he didn't really want to listen and when I told him about the eye he was shocked and reckoned it was because I had drunk with the drug-not just the drug itself.

Anyway on Thursday I had one beer but without the drug and it was pretty similar- I drank it slowly for me. Friday night (last night) I had to go to a surprise party for a friend and I knew I wouldnt know anyone there so was a bit reluctant to go. I thought I should drive so as not to drink but chickened out at last minute didnt drive and decided to take half a tablet- 25mg. I was worried about the eye thing but thought since it had gone away the worst that could happen it would just puff up again.

At dinner had wine and again no big rush on first mouthful and drunk slowly I think I drank about 3/4 of the bottle so 6 standard drinks I guess. I know that seems a lot but compared to my usual performance it was a pretty drastic reduction. I think I would have drunk less if others hadnt filled up my glass. Anyway there was no puffy eye this morning.

Would really appreciate peoples views on this? When I had the eye thing I was so disappointed because I thought I wouldnt be able to use this drug and this method. It really helped with the cravings too- normally if I were going out Id have at least one drink before leaving the house but didnt even think of it last night. I think I could use it to help change my habits which is what the SMART recovery is all about. I do however feel it seems like cheating a bit as if the only goal can be total abstinence.

Thanks for reading

[Spiritfree]

Hi Moderate and welcome to the forum. There have been several accounts on this forum where people started out on the moderation road and finally ended up freeing themselves altogether of alcohol. I apologize to you that there avatar/screen names do not come to me right now, but hopefully they will read your post and offer direction/advice. I was far beyond the moderation stage -I had to quit to live.

Thank you for posting and hopefully the moderators will chime in.

--sf--

[YouKayBee]

Hi there,

I used TSM very successfully and do communicate with other TSM users. I have never heard of puffy eye being a side effect, that doesn't mean that it hasn't happened to you, but I don't think it's the Nal.

One thing some users do is start with 25mg and increase to 50mg over the first week.

TSM got my drinking down to safer limits which allowed me to start rebuilding my life and get to know myself again, then after 2 years of TSM/moderate drinking I decided to quit full stop - that was more or less 2 1/2 years ago, not touched a drop since.

I'd recommend trying it again. GPs and Smart groups don't understand the method. Is there a different support you could find, such as counselling - you can self refer to any counselling service, including private counsellors which can be found by googling 'counsellor' + your area. Don't necessarily have to look for alcohol, most counsellors will have enough training to deal with most things.

[YouKayBee]

Hello
Im new here. Ive been trying to moderate my drinking for some time on my own with just keeping count but have been unsuccessful. I was thinking I would really just need to quit altogether. However I came across the Sinclair method and it sounded like a great method for me as I use alcohol to deal with problems and stress. I just asked my GP for naltrexone and he didn't know much about it. I didnt mention the method. He was reluctant at first but then found that he was allowed to prescribe without any permission needed. The only requirement was that it be in combination with a program. I had also applied for a mental health plan and was starting sessions with SMART recovery so he went ahead and prescribed it. I took 50mg (should have taken 25mg I see now!) on Wednesday then an hour later had a beer and did not get that first rush that I always get when having that first mouthful. I waited for it but nothing!
I finished the beer but it took heaps longer than usual and the bottle just wasnt on my mind as usual. About half an hour later I had a another beer and had the same experience. I didnt want another one.I was thinking this is great- this is really going to help me
I had trouble sleeping that night more than usual and in the morning woke up with a really puffy swollen eye.It was quite noticeable. It seemed like an allergic reaction- has anyone else experienced this? The eye went down after a few hours. I went to a SMart meeting and was told off by the leader for taking the drug with drinking. I tried to explain the method but he didn't really want to listen and when I told him about the eye he was shocked and reckoned it was because I had drunk with the drug-not just the drug itself.

Anyway on Thursday I had one beer but without the drug and it was pretty similar- I drank it slowly for me. Friday night (last night) I had to go to a surprise party for a friend and I knew I wouldnt know anyone there so was a bit reluctant to go. I thought I should drive so as not to drink but chickened out at last minute didnt drive and decided to take half a tablet- 25mg. I was worried about the eye thing but thought since it had gone away the worst that could happen it would just puff up again.

At dinner had wine and again no big rush on first mouthful and drunk slowly I think I drank about 3/4 of the bottle so 6 standard drinks I guess. I know that seems a lot but compared to my usual performance it was a pretty drastic reduction. I think I would have drunk less if others hadnt filled up my glass. Anyway there was no puffy eye this morning.

Would really appreciate peoples views on this? When I had the eye thing I was so disappointed because I thought I wouldnt be able to use this drug and this method. It really helped with the cravings too- normally if I were going out Id have at least one drink before leaving the house but didnt even think of it last night. I think I could use it to help change my habits which is what the SMART recovery is all about. I do however feel it seems like cheating a bit as if the only goal can be total abstinence.

Thanks for reading

You might find some of this useful https://www.mywayout.org/community/me...-post-tsm.html

[sunshinedaisies]

Hi there - I too used TSM and finally had success with it after 11 months using it. as Youkaybee said, GP's do not understand the method - to have Naltrexone work, you MUST drink - there is a book that you can read that explains it all and I found that knowing and understanding the logistics really helped me. There is also a forum similar to this one but solely for TSM -

thesinclairmethod.com • Index page

I also do not think the puffy eye is anything to do with the naltrexone - but am not a doctor. Feel free to PM me if you have any more questions,

Sun

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