Strictly Sinclair: Naltrexone Done Right

[bob3d]

Strictly Sinclair: Naltrexone Done Right

I am going through withdrawal and there's nothing I can do about it!

I am going through withdrawal and there's nothing I can do about it!

I took my Naltrexone, and then drank with no buzz. The goal of course is mutually exclusive. To be free of addiction and yet get high when we want to.

I am on my way to freeing myself from addiction. But my mind wants to be buzzed right now... and there's nothing I can do about it because my Opiate receptors are blocked for this evening. Nothing I can do except, sit through this torture. Nothing I can do...

[Karl1981]

Strictly Sinclair: Naltrexone Done Right

just wondering if naltrexone weakens the neural pathways in our brain, will it also weaken any other plesuable experiences? pharmacological extinction?

for example things you enjoy like reading sex ect. how does it know just to block the al component?

just wondering

[bob3d]

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Karl1981: Actually it does weaken other pleasurable experiences when you are taking it.

I think that is why we are supposed to take a Naltrexone holiday every so often and reinforce those activities; sex, exercise, and other things we enjoy, as long as we do NOT drink when we are off the Naltrexone.

Then we can resume our "normal" life after the "holiday", start the Nal, and resume drinking.

Bob

BTW, Yesterday's craving past within about 30 minutes and I felt fine.

[WaitingToExhale]

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Hey Karl - Yes. That is clearly addressed in the book.

Also, on the SM forum I specifically asked Dr. E about this and tried to get more specifics. His response is posted over there. He has basically said to not worry about it just yet - but I do.

In is advised in the book that you and your DR identify your "endorphin producing" activities and to avoid those on your days of taking Nal, and preferably have a day without Nal (AND DRINKING) in between as well. I have a personal conflict with this because 1) I drink everyday for now 2) Much of my "good" activities in the past have also included drinking!

Friday - Nal + drink + no rush activities

Sat - NO Nal + No drinking + no rush activities

Sun - No Nal + No drinking + Jump Out Of A Plane (HA!)

It is encouraged to experience such activities on that 2nd day of No Nal - no drinking and claims they will become even more enjoyable.

I am just beginning my journey on Sunday, so can't give you any personal experience, but there are some that are further along that have more information on the other site.

WTE

[bob3d]

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Uggh

Uggh.

I am drinking more than ever, even with 50mg Naltrexone per afternoon. It started out good with a decrease in alcohol consumption last week, but now I am back up to pre-treatment levels of imbibing again. And sleeping is horrific. I used to pass out and wake up in the morning with a slight headache, but ready to go. With Nal, I sleep in 2 hour intervals with nightmares and sweats in between, and then get up in the morning with no headache. But I do not look forward to sleep. I guess the Naltrexone "honeymoon" is over. What's next???

Bob

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Hi Have you gone to the other site
thesinclairmethod.com there is a lot of information there. Good Luck Check it out.

I have in the past the same problem with Nal, way binging after days of the meds, when I usually would have just kept my steady AL in my blood.

Try the other site.....:happyheart:

As I try to post this for some reason the site does not come up as a site connection, can anyone assist in this endeavor?
As I read again I see you are following thesinclairmethodsite

[aurora borialis]

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Bob, are you taking Nal one hour before you drink? It sounds like your having terrible effects. I did not hava any of that. I am so sorry. I have had great success with the Sinclair method.

[bloggy]

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bob3d;576983 wrote: Uggh.

I am drinking more than ever, even with 50mg Naltrexone per afternoon. It started out good with a decrease in alcohol consumption last week, but now I am back up to pre-treatment levels of imbibing again. And sleeping is horrific. I used to pass out and wake up in the morning with a slight headache, but ready to go. With Nal, I sleep in 2 hour intervals with nightmares and sweats in between, and then get up in the morning with no headache. But I do not look forward to sleep. I guess the Naltrexone "honeymoon" is over. What's next???

Bob

Bob
Nobody can say for sure what is next, but most people usually experience weeks 2 and 3 are more difficult than the first week because drinking is up again- sometimes even higher than pre- Sinclair, and the side effects are still there.

Generally by week 4 the side effects seem to disappear, and drinking begins to drop off again with many people then experiencing some Alcohol Free days, which also = naltrexone free.

Stick with it if you can- the side effects do pass.

[Guest]

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In thinking about it, I had the same experience with drinking more than ever when I was first trying Nal., about 1 year ago, alone on my own. That scared me and I thought I was doing a disservice to myself by continuing to drink and take Nal (which I also thought was bad for my liver) so I stopped the med then.

As time has gone by and I have become educated to this Sinclair Method I am not so confused with the effects.

We shall all wait and see.

[bob3d]

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potato;578123 wrote: Bob, are you taking Nal one hour before you drink? It sounds like your having terrible effects. I did not hava any of that. I am so sorry. I have had great success with the Sinclair method.

Yes. Being OCD, I write everything down, especially the med, amount and time. I begin drinking exactly 1 hour after taking the Nal.

Today, I didn't want to drink, so it took longer to start. Once I got started, I was able to continue, although I am alternating between two beers I used to love, Guinness Stout and Becks. The Guinness is going down fine, but the Beck's tastes disgusting. Anyway, I definitely will not be over-imbibing tonight.

Is 50mg Naltrexone enough? Or is 75mg or 100mg more appropriate?

Any thoughts from anyone?

Bob

[bob3d]

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marbella;578130 wrote: Bob
Nobody can say for sure what is next, but most people usually experience weeks 2 and 3 are more difficult than the first week because drinking is up again- sometimes even higher than pre- Sinclair, and the side effects are still there.

Generally by week 4 the side effects seem to disappear, and drinking begins to drop off again with many people then experiencing some Alcohol Free days, which also = naltrexone free.

Stick with it if you can- the side effects do pass.

I will do exactly as you say. I am within week 2 and fell like naltrexone is doing nothing for me. However, I will continue the Sinclair Method, especially if I can look forward to relief during week 4! Thanks for the info.

Bob

[bob3d]

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oceanaocean;578271 wrote: In thinking about it, I had the same experience with drinking more than ever when I was first trying Nal., about 1 year ago, alone on my own. That scared me and I thought I was doing a disservice to myself by continuing to drink and take Nal (which I also thought was bad for my liver) so I stopped the med then.

As time has gone by and I have become educated to this Sinclair Method I am not so confused with the effects.

We shall all wait and see.

So is your advice to continue and wait for the effect to manifest itself? How long did you self treat prior to giving up?

Bob

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Looking back I wish I had journalized my experience. So I have to try to take it from memory.

I first tried naltexone alone taking 50 mgs at night before bed. I found info and I have a great Dr. who will go along with treating me if I bring in info to back it up. We then research on the computer together and this was what we found to be the program. 50 mgs at night. No drinking.

I would take the nal for five days then coast for four more days, not taking nal. As I said I was under the impression it was bad (very bad for my liver) It appears I was misinformed.

But that is how I did it. So the 9th day I was ready to drink and I did and then I was off and running 24/7 again.

I repeated this two more times.

Then I had the shot of vivitrol. #30 day time release. Three days no drinking, then I was back to 24/7. Then I was binge drinking. For two reasons, I had to hide my drinking, and it somehow created a binge situation for me. Instead of my continued calm flow of AL as my med, I was overdosing on AL.

Now I am trying to take the med faithfully every day. We shall see where I get to on this.

I too think I may increase my dose, like 50 mgs in am 25 pm or something like that. ??????????

[bob3d]

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oceana: Strictly Sinclair?

Uhhh. oceana, that doesn't sound like the Sinclair Method from what I am reading in the book which I have been reading vehemently since yesterday when I finallly recieved it.

The idea is to take Naltrexone one hour prior to imbibing. That does not sound like what you have done.

I still would like to know what dosage to take; 50mg, 75mg, 100mg? I can pretty much get any precription out of my psychiatrist since I'm quite manipulative by nature, but I mix it with so much truth and openness that it is hard for professionals to detect. Regardless, I want to be cured. So, what dosage is the right dosage???

Bob

[WaitingToExhale]

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Bob -

I think what Ocean was saying is that she had tried Nal, using it in a different format prior to learning about the SM.