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[42cat]

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Niki, I found the L-glutamine to be amazing with cravings. I got mine from my local health store. Some people take both the L-glut and the Kudzu together.

If you put your question on the main board (ie., start a new thread on this board) you might get more replies ... And there's a ton of information and opinions in the various threads as well.

Great to see you posting away! I find reading and posting to be really helpful with this battle.

[Zman]

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Olive,

The hangover was pretty nasty. But trust me, ive had worse.

I went up to 75mg today, but its a thursday (which is the end of the week here in dubai - Friday, Saturday is the weekend) and thats when i feel like having a "reward" for a good week at work. Didnt even try to resist. Bought 3 bottles of wine and am almost done with the first one. Will probably drink the second as well and then lie to my wife about how much I actually consumed.

Same ol' same ol'.

Someone tell me not to despair!!

[Zman]

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By the way, im only half-joking. I know that 75mg is a low dose, relatively.

[Lusus Naturae]

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Hi everyone! :new:

Who (or what) am I?

I'm a 6' 170 lb. male who drinks. A lot. (IMO)

I've been drinking much more than I should for quite some time now, more than 15 years. For the last ten or so I've probably averaged between 7 and 14 drinks per evening, closer to the latter lately. I started out only in the evening, but for the past year or so have slipped into benders where daily intake is 20 or more per day. In the last month, I had one stretch of 10 days, with a 4 day break (where a break is defined as only drinking in the evening), followed by another 9 day bender. At this point, no matter how I try not to, any non work stretch becomes a bender, including weekends.

I've been intending to moderate for some time now, but no matter how determined I was, it just didn't work. I've never tried AA, there are things about their philosophy that just don't fit me. Never tried CBT (in fact, never been to a shrink). I've never discussed my drinking with anyone.

Stress, anxiety, insomnia, and the fear of dire withdrawal symptoms are all factors. I drink to sleep, which doesn't work all too well, since I wake up a few hours later, then drink again to get back to sleep. If I didn't, I'd obsess over whatever, and not sleep. I never thought I suffered from anxiety, but watching my mind lately, I've come to realize that indeed I do. The fear of withdrawal symptoms leads me to try to titrate down slowly, but I can never seem to keep to the scheduled amounts. And of course all of these play against each other.

The only times I've been af were visits to family, when I was staying with family. Titrating down before visits was quite a struggle.

The toll this is taking on my body and mind is becoming more evident every day, and I had to find some way to deal with this.

I've poked about MM (lurked on the boards there) for some time. Every time I found a drug mentioned I researched it, and for most, the results didn't sound very promising. Then I came across Naltrexone and TSM. This looked promising. I found a board with discussions about people's experiences with it (TSM that is), and thought I had found something really good. Granted it seemed to be taking some time for results, and the results were mixed, but it seemed better than anything else I had found. I tried to order from alldaychemist, but their site wouldn't accept my cc, and the only way it seemed I could order was to send them a check.

Before I could do that, though, I found another drug I had never heard of: baclofen. This looked even more promising. I devoured all threads I could find on this board about it (many, many, many thanks to all of you), and this seemed even more attractive.

I started ordering bac (you may have seen a thread I started about my research on that) a little less than two weeks ago. I received my first order three days ago. I'll be posting about my progress as I go along.

Again, I want to express my gratitude to everyone posting about their progress and experiences here. If it weren't for you, I wouldn't have pursued baclofen. I most likely wouldn't have found out about Dr. Ameisen.

At this point, after three days, I'm already experiencing some very good things with bac. I hope it lasts. Even if it doesn't, I'll be titrating up until craving is supressed (or I reach a point where it doesn't and I can't go any further).

So there you have it.

I started a new thread that I'll be posting progress to, and will also post here.

[shelbysmiles]

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Hi Lu! (I tend to shorten people's names). Thanks for putting all the information together on the online stores. That is very helpful. I look forward to hearing about your progress!

[beatle]

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I am not able to follow everything and everyone here.

I just want to say a thank you to Lusus for sharing much valuable information.

I hope to hear more feedback, and I will do likewise (if I just get my dope, dammit!)

[Zman]

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This is something i posted on another thread but, as this is the thread most people read (i think), it should be reposted here:

I find it pretty funny how people are suddenly concerned about being accused of earning some sort of economic benefit from this site or baclofen in general. Seriously, even if someone from an online pharma is visiting this site, there are maybe 50 people ordering baclofen....how much $$ could they really make from convincing all of us to order from their particular pharma.

People, there is no economic benefit (as of date) from people using baclofen. That is a blessing and a curse. A blessing bc anything anyone says can be trusted to be genuine, but a curse bc there are no big drug companies conducting actual research/clinical trials on the efficacy of the drug.

I think everyone needs to chill out on the whole shill thing.

[Zman]

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That being said, im at 75mg now and the weekend has killed me. Im drinking as a write this, and while my wife is asleep, i know she is pissed off at me due to the amount i drank last night (2 bottles of red wine).

Still hoping for a miracle....

[oliveoyl]

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[billyb]

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Zenstyle;672594 wrote: Great news on your progress OO!

I'll check out the Adrafinil site. I remember reading something about that in the MWO book but I didn't take it while I was on Topa. I should probably have ordered it... anything to kick start the grey matter's a "good thang"...

Re: adrafinil:

Adrafinil's a prodrug for modafinil - when you take it your body metabolizes it into modafinil, so it has identical effects, but it takes slightly longer for it to kick in. Adrafinil is unregulated in the US, so you don't need a prescription for it, and there's no legal issues (unlike modafinil, which is scheduled and illegal to import).

I took modafinil every so often during my baclofen titration, and it really helps with sleepiness. It even helped with the IQ drain - it's a natural companion for baclofen.

However, although it doesn't have as much abuse potential as other stimulants like ritalin or adderal, there is still a little bit of abuse potential there, so I would be hesitant to recommend it unless your side-effects are really quite bad.

[juliej15]

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Hi All -

I took my first 15mg of Bac (spread thru the day) yesterday. I still drank my normal amount last night, but I can't believe how relaxed I feel today...kind of like I don't have a care in the world. I am a little tired but mostly just relaxed. Is this how "normal" people feel?

I am going to follow Zenstyle's titration schedule and try to cut down the driniking over the weekend.

Thanks for all the advice!

JulieJ

[Zman]

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Olive,

I'm also an extreme sceptic and am also an atheist. Thas why AA never seemed like an option for me. Obviously i dont believe in "miracles" per se, but im sure people suffering from AIDS thought AZT etc was a "miracle".... just like I hope the Bac will be a "miracle" for all of us.

Im going to drink tonite. Maybe a bottle or more of wine. Then im going to try to go AF. Will let you guys know how it goes. Will stay at 75 tomorrow and then go up to 90. Take care all and thanks again for posting your progress. It gives me hope.

[Zman]

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Ok so this is weird. Where I live (Dubai) alcohol is technically banned and you cant just go out to a liquor store and buy a bottle, unless you have a special license which is only given to non-muslims. I am considered a muslim (even though Im an atheist). Well in any case, I get my booze from a boot-legger, whom I call and order from. He usually takes like an hour to come by, and I'm always white-knuckling like crazy for that hour, checking my watch every ten minutes.

Well, I ordered 40 minuted ago and just realized that I hadnt once looked at my watch for those 40 minutes. Im not white-knuckling waiting for him to get here. Small progress I know, but progress just the same i think.

[Cinders]

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ZMAN,

Early in my bac dosing days, I used to be white knuckling it after about 4 hours and I was going 5 hours between doses. (So I could do tid and hit my witching hours about right)

Today, I often forget to take my dose on time!!

Small change, but progress.

Cindi

[veritas]

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Zman, its looking great. It does seem that the desire to stop is a proccess and that sounds a really big step.