Attempt at commercial gain from bac?

[Amaryllis]

Attempt at commercial gain from bac?

thank you Bill.P

i will look at the thread and that web site. enjoy your party

[cowgal]

Attempt at commercial gain from bac?

Amarylis

Did you try baclofen4alcoholism site yet?? It is rebuilt and I have posted on it, could use some more input, like we have here, it is pretty user-friendly, you might want to have a look......

Just a thought, best of luck!!

MA

[Amaryllis]

Attempt at commercial gain from bac?

i wne through all that site and it helped me a lot. ive read some of your poor thaughts about it. has it changed since then? cowgal says it rebuilt. it seems not quite finished to me, but it was excellent for me.

it tells everybody to join My Way Out and even has links to your forums. what's the problem? is he not legit, or something? i don't get it?

anyway, i've sent him a few questions. let's see what happens. i will let you know

[Amaryllis]

Attempt at commercial gain from bac?

i got very helpful replies to my e-mail to the baclofen web site

[cowgal]

Attempt at commercial gain from bac?

great

he is very supportive Amaryllis, glad you went there, I am trying to encourage everyone using or thinking of using Baclofen to go there, he is a true goodhearted person who means well, don't think he makes a penny off the site, let alone the books he is putting out...................just work from his soul, which I am familiar with, do the same with my artwork and trying to help when I have time on here, feels good to help, you know!??

Lots of luck, love, :h

MA :l :l

[lodestar]

Attempt at commercial gain from bac?

Heads up...

same guy, different website:

drphillipthomas.com

Take care!

[cowgal]

Attempt at commercial gain from bac?

I think

jGo visit, much more feedback than Dr. Ameison's site..... He actually comunicates w/ you! What a concept?!? Does not by any means give medical advice but is sweet just the same, I try to visit that site every day as I have time, as I do here........we all need eachother!! All of us on this baclofen journey need all the support we can get!!!!

MA:h:l

[Athens]

Attempt at commercial gain from bac?

I have just registered with MWO, having never even heard of it until this morning. I read about it on the baclofen4alcoholism web site, where it receives a glowing recommendation, and even links to it.
I might not join in with your future discussions, but I felt compelled to write immediately about something.
For your information, I am 25 years old, and gay. I come from a Greek Orthodox family. I was educated in England and the USA, and returned home after my studies. Family pressure over my sexuality caused me to drink increasingly heavily. Over the summer, my father has virtually locked me up in our home with no money and Baclofen. The internet has been my lifeline.
About 4 months ago, I stumbled across the Baclofen site. I e-mailed Dr Phill to say hello and ask him a question. To be honest, I didn’t expect a reply. But, he replied within 24 hours; was very friendly and answered my question. Since then, I have e-mailed him at least once a week, and he always gets back to me. I even asked him about a sexual issue that I had developed since starting Baclofen. He was very understanding, supportive and helped a lot.
The sole reason for my posting today is the follows, and I quote Mr Tiptronic from his posting on this thread earlier in November.

“WTF is up with the shit about the apology and his ex-wife???
All in favour of Enforced Euthanasia for Dr. Phill (is that like sy-Phill-is...???), say aye...
He is no good to the cause of baclofen
Claim to fame is a shitty video clip from Sharon Osbournes' TV show, totally unrelated to bac???
I'm sorry, CG, its not informative at all. It can only damage the reputation of baclofen.”

Now, I know that nobody is perfect. I dare say that even Dr Phill has his faults. After all, he is a self-confessed alcoholic. But to say things like that about someone you obviously know absolutely nothing about, and who is quite clearly just trying to help people with the same problem as him is quite disgusting.
I happen to know 100% that it WAS his ex-wife who ruined his web site. She sent me some highly revolting and extremely offensive e-mails personally over that weekend. Now that the site is safe and secure, they stopped immediately. Dr Phill has apologised to me personally and I have accepted his apology. I also know, from our chats over that period that it has cost him a lot to put the site right so quickly, and it is a 1000 times better for it.

Enforced Euthanasia / Syphilis / shitty video?

You should be ashamed of yourself, Mr Tiptronic. Although I am sure that anybody capable of writing such a thing about someone he doesn’t know is incapable of any self-doubt, embarrassment or shame whatsoever. Those words are equally as revolting and offensive as anything his ex-wife wrote to me. Two of a kind, maybe? If you meant them seriously, then shame on you, Mr Tiptronic. If you thought they were funny, then don’t become a stand-up comedian. You will certainly starve.
If I don’t post on this site again, then all my best wishes and love to all but one of you. After all, we need all the help, information and mutual support we can get. If you haven’t visited the Baclofen site, I suggest you do. You might find some of what you need there.
I have.

Dimitri

[cowgal]

Attempt at commercial gain from bac?

agree!

Welcome to this site, and glad you are trying to get some help:welcome:

But we are all, Tip included, and everyone else for that matter entitled to our own opinions, glad you found the site helpful Athens, the guy has been working his butt off to get it going after his ass of a wife hijacked it last week or so...................he is super helpful, I just figure it is another support for all us battling this "thing", hate it!!! You are in a good place, keep us posted on your progress no matter how it goes, here and on the other thread...........................

best of luck,:l:h

MA

[Athens]

Attempt at commercial gain from bac?

I wasn't sure anybody would read what I wrote, never mind reply. Thanks.
I'm sure I will be fine, once I get out of here.
Of course everyone is entitled to their opinions. However, wishing someone you don't know, or indeed anyone, to be forcibly euthanased is not really an opinion, is it?
And calling people names (syphylis) was something that we should all have grown out of at school. Obviously he hasn't.
It's all as sick and pathetic as all the homophobic rantings of his mad wife!!!!!
Mr Tiptronic says all that is written about 'bac' should be scientific and not gushing etc, and that the site does nothing for the reputation of Baclofen. Do you know the term, "the pot calling the kettle black"?
He just let himself down. Now I've said what I've said, I'm just going to ignore him.
D x

[cowgal]

Attempt at commercial gain from bac?

just do what you need to

for yourself, Athens...............I pm'd you , hope you read it and aren't mad.............I like your posts, and hope you find solace here, we are not all so opinionated, I am in my own way, but naive, and believe in the good in people more than most.................Tip is just very opinionated, do not take anything he says, or for that matter, what anyone on here, personally, I have seen too many people leave an fight on this site over stuff like that............

peace

best to you,:l:l

MA

[cowgal]

Attempt at commercial gain from bac?

best of luck Athens!

Please check in w/ us and tell us your progress, some of us really truly care here, I wish you the best......................

BTW, just went to his site, it is wonderful!!! A little different than this, but would recommend anyone interested in going there to check it out, he has a thought for the day, a vlog (guess that is a blog? not sure) but the site is a blessing.........................thanks Tip(even though you dislike the site) for posting about it, otherwise I would have never had the chance to check it out....................I am always hungry for more information/knowledge and experiences on bac, and this helps,

lots of love to you all!!!!:l:h

MA

[beatle]

Attempt at commercial gain from bac?

tiptronic_ct;761361 wrote: WTF is up with the shit about the apology and his ex-wife???

All in favour of Enforced Euthanasia for Dr. Phill (is that like sy-Phill-is...???), say aye...

He is no good to the cause of baclofen

Claim to fame is a shitty video clip from Sharon Osbournes' TV show, totally unrelated to bac???

I'm sorry, CG, its not informative at all. It can only damage the reputation of baclofen.

I'm not sure what this is about. But I do think it is out of place here and out of character for Tip.

Athens, you make very valid points and I understand your outrage at these comments.

If we "old-timers" here didn't know Tip so well, we'd probably have called him on this one, but when a consistently reasonable, intelligent, helpful, supportive, and downright likable member writes something like this, I think others are very forgiving. I know that's not fair, and I'm sure there are many others who agree with you, Athens. I do love and respect Tip, but I very much understand your reaction and I think it is an appropriate one. Thank you, and please keep coming here.

AND P.S.: That "shitty video clip from Sharon Osbournes' TV show", is indeed totally unrelated to bac--- I think he posted it to show that he is a real person, he is not hiding anything, and is not a fake -- sort of like: "Here I am. This is my name, this is me."

[cowgal]

Attempt at commercial gain from bac?

thumbs up!

Two thumbs up for that site and the support, I encourage everyone wishing to have some positive feedback and support to log on and check it out....................cannot say enough positive things about it!!

MA:l:h:l:h

[tiptronic_ct]

Attempt at commercial gain from bac?

Athens, you got me WAY wrong.

Beatle: yes, I might have overreacted.

Having said that, I cannot begin to describe how strongly I feel about the benefits of baclofen. It has truly saved my life, bit I WILL stop short of calling it a miracle drug or an easy cure for alcoholism. And I want everyone else to go about responsibly in spreading the word.

This Phill guy had all my hackles raised, though. I repeat what I've tried to say before: if you're going to operate a website dedicated to baclofen, do so professionally. Else join a community like this one, where we offer mutual support to one another, in an environment where we're all tentatively feeling our way. I could have walked away from MWO after going AF, but I haven't - because I believe its important to offer support. Just to be there.

Phill's website started out peddling books. It contained very little content other than his books, and went downhill from there. Since then, I'll be 1st to admit that it has become way, way better. He has offered some explanations for things which made me doubt him in the 1st place (like the Sharon Osbourne clip, which I still think should go).

Phill has the benefit of being able to update his site continuously to fill the gaps. I stand by my earlier posts (and they shall remain there), but I DO wish him well. If his site can become a true resource to help others find their way out, he'll get my full support. When I posted my initial doubts about him, his site was no more than self-indulgent drivel, which wouldn't have helped our cause one little bit.

That is changing, and I'm happy to acknowledge that.