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[B4A]

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Topsy-Turvy-Tracy;989797 wrote: Hi Saturn, "The End of My Addiction" by Olivier Ameisen, MD, is the "premiere" work, so to speak.

I agree, TTT. But read the following about what you wrote.

I know nothing about the handbook (Obviously) but gather that the general feeling on this forum is one of distrust [I]( I don't doubt it). I do not believe the author is an MD either (wrong). I suspect that most of the info. in the handbook was harvested from the various threads here (also wrong [url=http://baclofen4alcoholism.com]baclofen4alcoholism.com[/url]).
I'd advise to spell it all out and act like you know what you are doing because MD's are a little dense (I agree).
In fact, I'd go further, especially in the UK, and that they think we are a sordid underclass; no matter what your background.
I went in about a year ago and had to see another doc - I was concerned about constant tingling in my feet. I was (and am) pretty convinced that it was permanent nerve damage due to chronic alcoholism (you may be right). I asked for a liver function test, and the guy thought that it wasn't necessary and prescribed some stuff that I took twice and threw away (it knocked me unconscious at night - not asleep, like completely out and I woke up feeling like crap). I'm sure. You needed your LFT's doing and probably an ultrasound scan.
My regular doc (who is a nurse practitioner - so not a doctor) had a liver function test run when she prescribed the baclofen, and the lab report came back saying "Your liver is working really hard." Well, duh.:H

Why not read the book?????[/i]

Yesterday, I got an e-mail from someone in the US who went to their psychiatrist who said he would consider prescribing Baclofen but only after she had read the Baclofen Handbook. And he had already got 'free' copies to give his patients.

I'm not the enemy here.

Phill

[Topsy-Turvy-Tracy]

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Phil, you are not allowed to practice medicine anywhere, including in the UK, at least according to the General Medical Council Register. An M.D. would use that title because it is much more meaningful than "doctor" which is a title that doesn't mean squat. It bothers me that continue to refer to yourself as a physician.

I suspect that you need a ghostwriter yourself (as well as an editor and a marketing rep):

“Throughout the last fifteen years, I have also set up and run several private medical businesses; mostly in the fields of cosmetic surgery and obesity management/surgery . . . Following several failed corneal transplants, I have hung up my surgeon's gloves . . .” :wow:

I have a hunch that you did not intend the meaning that I gleaned from those words - that your patients suffered failed transplants under your scalpel? Maybe you did. I’m thinking that maybe you meant you yourself suffered failed corneal transplants, so I perfectly understand why giving up surgery would be a logical choice. It does not explain why you would give up being a lawyer though. There are many lawyers who are completely blind and still practice law. So, that bothers me.

I’m also not fond “An End of My Alcoholism” as a tag line, for reasons that should be pretty obvious. Calling yourself “Dr. Phil,” seems a little off the wall too for similar reason, and calling yourself “Dr. Baclofen” is very far over the top. Much of what you write on your site is jumping the shark and comes across as more “hard sell” (it slices, it dices, it makes julienne fries) than anything of a professional nature.

Phil, why you wouldn’t delete your entire message board is a mystery. The only two frequent posters, aside from yourself, were your mistresses – at least according to your rather infuriated ex-wife, who claims that you are a compulsive liar. It looks like a rather scandalous train wreck to me:

The B 4 a Message Board - Baclofen, Curing Our Alcoholism www.baclofen4alcoholism.com: Welcome to the B 4 a Message Board

Wikipedia has several issues with your article there, and they include:
# The notability of this article's subject is in question. If notability cannot be established, it may be listed for deletion or removed.
# Very few or no other articles link to it.
# It may require general cleanup to meet Wikipedia's quality standards
# It may have been edited by a person who has a conflict of interest with the subject matter.

Also, the website for Inhouse pharmacy (www.inhousepharmacy.com) on the ad on your website is defunct. I think there is a new one for Inhouse, but I can’t remember what it is.

I asked for your creds once on here and you never responded. Granted the thread was closed.

Your site did not sell me on you or your book. It made me terribly wary. I take no issue with people who want to make money – I do too. But, I wouldn’t pay $30 for a short paperback, especially from a site renowned for overpriced shipping (at least for people in the US). It would not be worth the money to me since I pretty much know everything I need to know to do this. You are up against a tall wall since the information people need to get started doesn't cost a thing.

As far as the story about the email you got, just yesterday, regarding the psychiatrist in the US who would only prescribe baclofen if the patient read your handbook, I think you made it up.

[tiptronic_ct]

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Urmmmmmm, Tracy.

There is ONE thing you forgot to mention. Those Youtube video clips :H:H:H

[PhoenixRising]

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tiptronic_ct;989917 wrote: Urmmmmmm, Tracy.

There is ONE thing you forgot to mention. Those Youtube video clips :H:H:H

No kidding...

[Ne/Neva Eva]

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Tracy, you're my hero. (You too, Tip for round one.)
I exchanged emails, 18 or 20 of them, with Phill in August. He was kind and had some suggestions. He told me at that point that he wanted to write a book. (My response: Don't we all?)
That said, Phill, you're breaking the rules and the spirit of this community. And now you're pimping your stuff on hallowed ground--the Consolidated Baclofen Thread. Where anyone can get, for free, all of the information they need to make an informed decision about this. Because of the hard work and dedication of people who came to this site for help. They're paying it forward.
There is enough hard evidence on this site surrounding B4$ that you will never get support. I wonder why you continue to try. Please stop.

[Topsy-Turvy-Tracy]

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Phil Thomas (a/k/a Philip Thomas, a/k/a Dr. Phill, a/k/a Dr. Baclofen) is a LIAR!

Thanks, Neva, and thanks to folks in PM who were also supportive.

Couldn?t hear the youtube videos, even with all audio maxed out.

I did find substantial proof that Philip Thomas, author of "The Baclofen Handbook" is no doctor and is lying about that. From an article published September 13, 2006: ?Phil Thomas, managing director of the National Gastric Balloon Centre in Manchester which treated Becky believes gastric balloons are a cheap and effective way to help thousands of obese teens . . . Mr. Thomas, who is not a doctor, added: "Later this year, the government's National Institute of Clinical Excellence will rule on child obesity surgery . . .?

EXCLUSIVE: WHY DIDN'T HER MUM PUT HER ON A DIET INSTEAD? - mirror.co.uk

So, Phil, it looks like your ex-wife is right. You lie a lot, in substantial ways about substantial things. I think that it is very unlikely that you will ever find support on this site, and I went into my research of you this morning with an open mind. People who happen to find posts about you on this site are not going to be impressed by what they read. You might want to find more friendly waters to fish in and take your marketing attempts elsewhere.

[Ne/Neva Eva]

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From bumps to drama? To the daily grind?
But here it is:
I'm looking forward to an appt. with an internest tomorrow. He's a well-known, been-around addiction specialist. Bought printer ink tonight to print out all the stuff from here I threw out last time I got annoyed....
On that note, I've got to go.

[Topsy-Turvy-Tracy]

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Good luck, Neva! Let us know how it goes.

[Lo0p]

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neva eva;990284 wrote: hallowed ground--the Consolidated Baclofen Thread. Where anyone can get, for free, all of the information they need to make an informed decision about this. Because of the hard work and dedication of people who came to this site for help. They're paying it forward.

:threekisses: :kudos: :kissyface:

[Saturns Rings]

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Didn't mean to cause trouble.

I've sent for the book.

I will let you know what I think.

[B4A]

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Topsy-Turvy-Tracy;990334 wrote: Thanks, Neva, and thanks to folks in PM who were also supportive.

Couldn’t hear the youtube videos, even with all audio maxed out.

I did find substantial proof that Philip Thomas, author of "The Baclofen Handbook" is no doctor and is lying about that. From an article published September 13, 2006: “Phil Thomas, managing director of the National Gastric Balloon Centre in Manchester which treated Becky believes gastric balloons are a cheap and effective way to help thousands of obese teens . . . Mr. Thomas, who is not a doctor, added: "Later this year, the government's National Institute of Clinical Excellence will rule on child obesity surgery . . .”

EXCLUSIVE: WHY DIDN'T HER MUM PUT HER ON A DIET INSTEAD? - mirror.co.uk

So, Phil, it looks like your ex-wife is right. You lie a lot, in substantial ways about substantial things. I think that it is very unlikely that you will ever find support on this site, and I went into my research of you this morning with an open mind. People who happen to find posts about you on this site are not going to be impressed by what they read. You might want to find more friendly waters to fish in and take your marketing attempts elsewhere.

I know that I am dead in the water here, but TTT, you are a bit thick and stupid. If you are going to investigate me, do it properly, like Tigs. That major national newspaper who said I wasn't a doctor misunderstood the UK tradition of calling surgeons 'Mister'. They not only printed a national apology, but they also gave me another major article. Why didn't you find those too?

By the way, that San Francisco psychiatrist has been referring patients to my site for more than a year. I couldn't give a damn whether you believe that he is giving my Baclofen Handbook away or not.

Regards to you all

Phill

[B4A]

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Zenstyle;990856 wrote: Furthermore... what's so special about us lot that you will endure repeated attacks on your character? Is it because you love us all so much?!! Sorry! Sense of humour got the best of me again old chap...

If you don't know what's so special about you all, then you are in the wrong place.

I do know.

My character, and you trying to destroy me, is irrelevant.

All I am doing is providing information. If you don't want to read it, then don't.

By the way, your sense of humour is not anywhere near as great as you think it is, old chap.

Phill
baclofen4alcoholism.com

[tiptronic_ct]

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Phill,

Get a grip, will ya?

You have offered not a single iota of information to help anyone on MWO, other than promoting your (probably plagiarised from the experiences of people who share openly here) book or trying to get some interest in your site going.

How thick is your skull???

No wonder you think Zenstyle's sense of humour isn't very good. It takes too long for the fecking penny to drop!

[Ne/Neva Eva]

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Are you f*king kidding me?
I'm losing it, holding on with fingernails. And this is the discussion on the Consolidated Baclofen thread???

Phill, regardless of your intentions or your character you are not allowed to promote your book, your website or yourself here. Period.
Or call people stupid. (I think she's probably kinda smart, ftr.)
Can you just leave off so the rest of us can feel some sort of community and camaraderie without being distracted with bull shit? 'Cause while it's entertaining, I don't really have room for the distraction. I have an appointment in 2 hours, in order to figure out why I can't take 30 milligrams of baclofen without profoundly disrupting my life and I've just popped the cork. After almost killing myself and the poor guy on the motorcycle one lane over when I drove through a tunnel and my head started vibrating.
Poor Saturn. You didn't start this, not by a long shot, and I'm glad you ordered the book. The rest of this is irrelevant to the information at hand, and reading through here can be daunting. Still, I reccomend it. Lots of good info and people from all walks. It's fascinating if you have the time. My reaction to baclofen seems to be way over the top, and I would encourage anyone to try it if they need a solution. Never-the-less, I'm going to stop limiting myself because I think my experience is valid. Even if it's not it's very very real.

[Topsy-Turvy-Tracy]

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Phil, you wouldn't tell the truth even if the truth looked better. Feck off.

Neva, I've thought about you a few times today. Please let us know what happened at the appointment.