eight days' intro and Bac and Nal (Sinclair Method) progress

[craving]

eight days' intro and Bac and Nal (Sinclair Method) progress

honestly once you reach your switch on Baclofen you will stop to understand how someone can take alcohol because 'they choose to'.

this might sound scary to you right now as alcohol is manipulating still every piece of your brain. once the influence dictation is over you will start to think 'normal' about alcohol. maybe you want a glass every 2 months - but thats about it

[Lo0p]

eight days' intro and Bac and Nal (Sinclair Method) progress

Coffee's getting cold... :upset:

[drink2much]

eight days' intro and Bac and Nal (Sinclair Method) progress

Just caught up on your progress, eight, you are doing really well. I've been in touch off list. You have convinced me to try Baclofen. . . off to River Pharmacy I go

D2M (I relapsed after a month of being AF; average AF days 3 a week; ave units less than they were :-)

[Lo0p]

eight days' intro and Bac and Nal (Sinclair Method) progress

D2M---All Day Chemist is MUCH cheaper.

[drink2much]

eight days' intro and Bac and Nal (Sinclair Method) progress

THanks for that tip, Lo0p
Dx

[Lo0p]

eight days' intro and Bac and Nal (Sinclair Method) progress

My coffee is frozen now... it's like a coffeecicle. :cupajoe:

[eight days a week]

eight days' intro and Bac and Nal (Sinclair Method) progress

my road - thank you for your very kind words I look forward to you joining us as soon as you can find a doctor, and please do let us know how you get on. If you don't find a doc I would thoroughly recommend ordering from a reputable company and starting yourself - my Bac specialist doesn't offer me any information or support that I can't find here or elsewhere.

Mettaphorica - that is strange, as the packet inserts here tell you to go up 15mg (3x5mg) every three days. Perhaps the theory is it's better to go more slowly the higher you get? I think common sense is what I have read from many of our friends here so many times - listen to your own body, and take things at your own pace. The suggestion to go up in 2.5mg intervals to avoid side effects is a very good one, thank you. 10mg tablets are easy to split into quarters.

startingover thank you so much for your encouragement, and to you also craving, as ever

startingover

drink2much;814343 wrote:

Just caught up on your progress, eight, you are doing really well. I've been in touch off list. You have convinced me to try Baclofen. . . off to River Pharmacy I go

D2M (I relapsed after a month of being AF; average AF days 3 a week; ave units less than they were :-)
Great to see you posting here D2M! Ah, if I was a 'stable' sort of alcoholic I would have tried the supplement approach to giving up/cutting down before Baclofen. There's a host of info on here, and I was due to try the protocol in Patrick Holford's book 'How to Quit Without Feeling S**t'. I actually started on it, but it takes a while, and when I crash into heavier drinking when my anxiety rises, boy do I crash! I was desperate for a quicker fix, which is the only reason I jumped into the Bac. But, if that's the course you choose, I can't wait to follow your progress!

Lo0p;814961 wrote:

My coffee is frozen now... it's like a coffeecicle. :cupajoe:

Drink your coffee up young man, cold or not, it's meant to be good for your liver!! :thumbs:




'Fascinating' update of my progress to follow...

[eight days a week]

eight days' intro and Bac and Nal (Sinclair Method) progress

So, I haven't posted in a few days (much to the forum server's delight, no doubt! :H)

Friday, as intended, I drank a bit more than I had been. This was a conscious choice. At the 10/12 UK units per day I was getting no buzz, and I thought I'd have a bit more and see how it felt. It wasn't particularly pleasurable, and the next day I had a slight hangover - this was a novelty for me after a good few weeks.

Saturday again I drank about the same (15 UK units, up from 10/12) and then Sunday and last night I effortlessly got back down to 12. (In fact I didn't want the last few drinks either day, but I have a new videogame, and those always lead me to stay up later, and thus drink more :upset By tomorrow I want to hit my 10 again, and start to take it further down from there.

Bac-wise I've been on 60mg, and now don't even notice that dose, so today I'm stepping up to 70mg. I'm super-sensitive to meds, and am functioning on the amount I've been drinking. If I wasn't and was just stuck at home anyway I'd risk titrating up faster, but I have things to deal with that I just can't if I go too fast and have SEs (which for me are strong).

Diazepam - a steady 7mg a day, which I'm delighted with Not so long ago I was on 12mg+, so this is almost half that amount, at the same time my drinking's come down.

So, as long as I can hit my 10 UK units again soon and work down from there as well as increasing the Bac little by little, I'll be a happy bunny. Now, the proof's in the pudding (rather than the gin, vodka and whiskey)!!

Best wishes to all

eight(y hours away and I couldn't think up any little 'jokes' to put in, shame on me!! :H)

[craving]

eight days' intro and Bac and Nal (Sinclair Method) progress

Eight,

I see across your thread you reference a lot of gaming.

What exactly are you playing and how many hours a day? Do you have special times where you play?

[eight days a week]

eight days' intro and Bac and Nal (Sinclair Method) progress

Yesterday:

7mg diazepam
65mg Bac
11 UK units AL
50mg Nal (as ever)

craving;815699 wrote: Eight,

I see across your thread you reference a lot of gaming.

What exactly are you playing and how many hours a day? Do you have special times where you play?

I play PS3, usually for at least a couple of hours, in the evenings, which is when I drink. The danger is that the gaming gets the adrenaline going. I stay up later than I normally would, and tend to have one or two extra drinks. There is also a strong habitual link for me between gaming and drinking - I'd hoped Nal would extinguish this link given time, but it hasn't quite yet.

I used to play and drink every night I was home. Now I no longer play every night or for so long, even though my GAD keeps me at home. I need to find some outside interests for the evenings that don't involve drinking, but my GAD makes that impossible right now. It doesn't help that I live in the countryside, so I need to travel to do anything.

I also need to find new friends. I may be seeing my oldest friend tomorrow night. We will drink, chat...and play video games.

My anxiety is what I need to find a cure or coping mechanisms for first so that I can change my lifestyle.

And yes, I am single :H

eight

[craving]

eight days' intro and Bac and Nal (Sinclair Method) progress

I can't really connect to that.

If I am having anxiety the last thing I would do is play games - pretty much all games related to violence, shooting someone etc. I think that would be contraproductive to anxiety?

The times I was drinking I was not feeling like playing games, also I think in general it was very negative to drink. I would watch a movie and would not understand the full movie.

I can somehow not relate to gaming and alcohol - whats the kick with it? can you play correctly at all - I would loose any game on alcohol.

[eight days a week]

eight days' intro and Bac and Nal (Sinclair Method) progress

craving;816056 wrote: I can't really connect to that.

If I am having anxiety the last thing I would do is play games - pretty much all games related to violence, shooting someone etc. I think that would be contraproductive to anxiety?

The times I was drinking I was not feeling like playing games, also I think in general it was very negative to drink. I would watch a movie and would not understand the full movie.

I can somehow not relate to gaming and alcohol - whats the kick with it? can you play correctly at all - I would loose any game on alcohol.

Sometimes they raise my anxiety, and at those times I would drink more, but sometimes they are a release from it, or at least a distraction, if I am already anxious.

If I drink 12 UK units a day I am never drunk, and rarely even tipsy, just more relaxed, so it's usually not hard to play. I never get memory loss from alcohol anymore. Actually, sometimes it's better to play like that, as you are more relaxed and often perform better - a bit like pool (called billiards I think in the US). There is actually a perfect point of being relaxed and confident in your abilities on alcohol but not too affected by it. I'm a scientist at this equation actually :H

Gaming is also social for me as I play with my friends online, and we can talk and enjoy an activity together even while I am housebound with my GAD.

Some games are very relaxing, although they are rare. In this one you play as the wind guiding flower petals to open more flowers (skip a few minutes in for a better idea):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUC2tpY5gb4[/video]]YouTube - Flower PS3 Gameplay

Right that's enough about games or I'll be tempted to go play some, and I have things to do! :H

Wishing everyone hopefully a good day

eight

[Mettaphorica]

eight days' intro and Bac and Nal (Sinclair Method) progress

I'm with you, Craving. Anything like that, that increases adrenalin, would increase anxiety and I would stay away from it. I even get woozy if someone tells me about their operation! I also wonder about gaming and drinking, and how accurate that would be! (well, I know I'd be no good at it). I won't watch any movies with violence (apart from ones that are obviously fantasy, like Spiderman), for the same reasons. Each to his own, I guess. Gaming could also be addictive, I imagine, and make it easier to stay indoors than go out.
Metta

[hangingon]

eight days' intro and Bac and Nal (Sinclair Method) progress

gamming is very addictive. I have a 12 year old son and all of his friends play x-box call of duty. He has adhd and his Dr. said it is hard for them to sit there and get that adrenaline rush and do nothing to release it. He has nightmares and talks in hissleep about it. I have limited it to the weekend only now. I could see where you would want to drink during that to calm yourself... first day of bac yesterday and I had one glass of wine over 3 hours... maybe the same tonight or maybe none...
hanging

[craving]

eight days' intro and Bac and Nal (Sinclair Method) progress

8 - how did your last days go? You are doing well?