Been on naltroxene for10 months, just added bac

[hoping4better]

Hi all,
I'm so excited that my dr. wrote me an Rx for baclofen! She is very wary of the high-dose thing, though, but is open to it if she gets the okay from a neurologist. Right now she is topping me off at 80mg. So, I just took my first 5 mg pill and am hoping I don't get too drowsy, as I have kids to drive around later.

I am really hoping this combo works. Have seen some encouraging results from this board and I'm glad to be along the same journey.

[mama bear]

Been on naltroxene for10 months, just added bac

good luck Hoping!!

[eight days a week]

Been on naltroxene for10 months, just added bac

With you all the way hoping!

Are you going to keep on with the Nal too?

[hoping4better]

Been on naltroxene for10 months, just added bac

Eight, yes I'm continuing with the nal. Hoping the combo platter works. I've been reading your thread and I'm so pleased for you!

[Lo0p]

Been on naltroxene for10 months, just added bac

Yay! Don't get discouraged if the SE's hit you like a freight train...your body will acclimate to it and it'll all be worth it.

[hoping4better]

Been on naltroxene for10 months, just added bac

Thanks, LoOp. The SEs are what I'm most concerned about as I have 4 kids, one being a 3 yr old. I can't be stumbling around and unable to function! I'll try to titrate slowly.

[azuldog]

Been on naltroxene for10 months, just added bac

this azuldog, so how did the Nal work, did you take while you were drinking? Im considering taking it with the Bac.....Im up to 50mg with one half reduction in my drinking but I still have urges...mostly psychological but other people have had good results @ higher doses....Im looking forward to that. Im reading Dr. Esepe's(?) book....the basis of the Sinclair Method, and it seems logical. Did you use it as a guide?
good luck, dog

[craving]

Been on naltroxene for10 months, just added bac

hoping,

i am happy to see you again!! if you titrate up slowly you will be able to deal with the SE the best. The SE effects I had made it possible for me to work even more and more hard - so actually the opposite of the SE's you are talking of :H

[hoping4better]

Been on naltroxene for10 months, just added bac

Azuldog, yes I read the book and followed the method to a T. How long have you been on TSM? Give it enough time -- at least 6 months -- before you think about adding baclofen.

Craving, I recognize you too. Your chart looks impressive, but I have no left brain whatsoever so I can't read it!:H

[hangingon]

Been on naltroxene for10 months, just added bac

hoping why do you feel 6 months should be waited before adding the Bac? that seems so long if one really wants to stop drinking. I have been on the Nal 7 weeks and this week has been a bad week so I got Bac yesterday.
thanks for your input,
hanging

[craving]

Been on naltroxene for10 months, just added bac

TSM needs quite long to kick in. If you practice TSM you will know if it works or not within about 6 months.

You have to give TSM a fair chance to work. Of course it is long to stop drinking. But if you stop drinking with Baclofen you can not use TSM anymore, as you do not drink :H

Baclofen needs to be taken for live. Nal just when you drink

[PlainVanilla]

Been on naltroxene for10 months, just added bac

Why wait 9 months to have a baby? That seems so long when I want to have a child right away!

The process of pharmacological extinction is one of chemical disassembly and rewiring of circuits in the brain. The wiring of addiction most likely took thousands of consistently repeated events (drink=reward) to acquire. It may take as little as a hundred, but maybe a couple hundred, events (drink=no_reward) to establish a new normal brain state.

Just one guy's opinion, but I don't think it can be rushed. It takes as long as it takes. The good news is that if it's going to work, eventually, I don't think you can STOP it from working, if you follow the protocol consistently. (For the 80% of people who are wired in the way that the method addresses.)

[eight days a week]

Been on naltroxene for10 months, just added bac

PlainVanilla;816958 wrote: ...

Just one guy's opinion, but I don't think it can be rushed. It takes as long as it takes. The good news is that if it's going to work, eventually, I don't think you can STOP it from working, if you follow the protocol consistently. (For the 80% of people who are wired in the way that the method addresses.)

I absolutely agree it can't be rushed on Nal, but with all due respect PV (and I know you're a success story) also haven't seen any evidence or experience that the near-80% 'cure' rate from the clinical studies reported in Dr Eskapa's book have been anywhere near duplicated in the 'real world'.

[PlainVanilla]

Been on naltroxene for10 months, just added bac

No argument there from me, although I wouldn't draw any conclusions one way or the other from self-reporting on a message board. People's experiences are their experiences, though, so I accept everyone's at face value. How that fits into the larger picture, I have no idea.

Feel free to strike the 80% comment. What if it were only half?

I will argue (just did :-) that 7 weeks is too soon to be drawing any conclusions. The question I meant to address was "why give it six months?" My apologies if a tangent obscured that.

[hangingon]

Been on naltroxene for10 months, just added bac

so craving arer you going to stay on the bac forever? It would seem after a length of time you could stop the bac and if you have a craving take a nal and have a drink...I would bet it would not even taste good after several months. I am going to read over the book again. It was very over whelming to me. I did take 2.5 bac 3 times today. (still too nervous to start on the 5) Poured a glass of wine 3 hours ago and have only drank about 3/4 glass, typically I would have gone thru a bottle in 3 hours.
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