GQ article about Dr. Ameisen and baclofen

[craving]

GQ article about Dr. Ameisen and baclofen

Time4Change1;821949 wrote: Didn't the article at the end kind of say that baflocen stopped working though?

it just says that Martin started to drink again. I do not know why though. It does not say that Baclofen stopped working. There are really insufficient information about that. It is very hard to judge from a "i drank again" - without any further details.

[brightlite]

GQ article about Dr. Ameisen and baclofen

Yes Bernard, Great reply. Jeff is obviously still searching. You've given him something to think about.

On the Wagon...."Recovery Group Disorder". I believe Jeff is suffering from that too. (Great terminology BTW) . He doesn't like it and is afraid to break away, but does not know where to run.

[pompeyman]

GQ article about Dr. Ameisen and baclofen

hi

here in england i had to go through psychiatrist ...... eventually to even be prescribed nal ...... doc wouldnt even consider it ....... not even sure they have heard about bac ..... from what ive read would be keen to try it .... have a good day everyone ....... this englishman is about to settle down to spend a sunday afternoon with columbo ....... trying not to think about his 12 and 11 year olds on mothers day take care x

[azuldog]

GQ article about Dr. Ameisen and baclofen

Picking up the sword

Great job Bernard. There's few people that could ferret out the information you've found and present it in such an articulate manner. Many thanks. There are many battles to fight yet before entrenched biases fall.

thanks, azuldog

[JeffH]

GQ article about Dr. Ameisen and baclofen

Baclofen naltrexone

Hello, I am new to this site. I have been on Naltrexone for a while, but still drinking, but actually, not getting high. I want to lessen the cravings and have read alot about Baclofen.
Does anyone know of a Dr. in the Atlanta area, that prescribes this combination.

[JeffH]

GQ article about Dr. Ameisen and baclofen

AA was no use to me. I am not very spiritual, so following steps was not by direction.
I've seen Baclofen on Canadian drug sites, has anyone used these sites for anything? I'm not convinced the meds are not placebos.

[ivy]

GQ article about Dr. Ameisen and baclofen

I hear ya. Im using topamax and I take 2 in am and 2 in pm and still sip a bottle red an evening..doesnt seem to lessen the drinking like it should

[JeffH]

GQ article about Dr. Ameisen and baclofen

Have you tried Baclofen? Is it available in BC?

[JeffH]

GQ article about Dr. Ameisen and baclofen

I first heard of Baclofen about a year ago. I thought it was great, that your article appeared in GQ, it immediately caught my attention and renewed my interest. I just finished the book by Ameisen.
Now, I would like to find someone to prescribe it.

[RedThread12]

GQ article about Dr. Ameisen and baclofen

Thanks Nate Penn

I appreciate your worm to shine light on this struggle. Hope you check out LoOp's post re Dr. Ameison's patent. Hopefully there's a big story around what we're doing and what he's doing and maybe we can start to move out of the Dark Ages of addiction treatment. Just thanks.

[Brave Hearted]

GQ article about Dr. Ameisen and baclofen

Hi All

Jeff to my knowledge not many people are getting baclofen through a doctor. Most like me, get hteres from online pharmacies, fortunately it is a relatively inexpensive drug.

I would like to see a follow up story from Nat using the example of people on this site who have had their lives changed by baclofen (me included) . It would be great for this site to opened up to the wider community as I know many of us have only found the site my chance and thank god we did as its saved our lives ! Not only that it would enable people to read all the information on all the meds that are out there (stuff the professionals wont tell us) and draw their own conclusions !

A question to Nat , are you considering another article ? I hope so !

BH x

[friendofafriend]

GQ article about Dr. Ameisen and baclofen

OnTheWagon;818727 wrote: Thank you so much for writing this article.

I fear however, that as more articles are written we will begin witnessing the full force of the $25 billion addiction treatment industry crashing down on Dr. Ameisen. He will be discredited in every way. Too much money is at stake and far too many people who make their living exploiting others misery (AA, shrinks, rehabs) are onboard the gravy train.

Pass the popcorn...

Don't believe it. How long can someone run the same con-job in the face of contrary scientific evidence? Finally, many doctors are realizing that they have been duped into adopting century old standards of treatment for addiction. The crooks will have to find a new game and new suckers, I think. Sure, it might take few years, but the writing is on the wall.

[azuldog]

GQ article about Dr. Ameisen and baclofen

Mr. Penn where are you?

It would be nice to hear from you again. Maybe you could address some of our concerns.
We could use some help from the media. Some of the folks here are successful. Some are struggling. Some are going down. How are you doing?

azuldog

[beatle]

GQ article about Dr. Ameisen and baclofen

friendofafriend;823294 wrote: Don't believe it. How long can someone run the same con-job in the face of contrary scientific evidence? Finally, many doctors are realizing that they have been duped into adopting century old standards of treatment for addiction. The crooks will have to find a new game and new suckers, I think. Sure, it might take few years, but the writing is on the wall.

Unfortunately, I think On the Wagon's prediction is more realistic. Until somebody can make big bucks on Bac, it will be systematically ignored and quelled. However, the more baclofen becomes visible, the more the big drug companies will try to find a way to make money on it (time-released, for example, or in combination with other drugs)-- they already are trying. This means, eventually, it will become mainstream (after the drug companies do their multi-million dollar studies to "prove" it works and is safe).

But, as OTW also mentions, not only the pan-national drug conglomerates, but the entire rehab industry has a huge stake in keep Bac under wraps. You'd think this was strange, since Bac would make a perfect partner with rehab. Get someone detoxed with Bac, start them on therapy, while you slowly increase the Bac dose, and then send them back into the world, armed with what they have learned in rehab and a prescription for Bac. Problem with this scenario is that the relapse rate would plummet, and then profits made from rehab would also plummet. The rehab industry needs people to relapse in order to continue.

[jeffeff]

GQ article about Dr. Ameisen and baclofen

I replied to the reply. I copied-and-pasted most of the original comment from something I wrote in response to a Newsweek article about pharmacological treatments back in 2007. In hindsight it's not as clear as it ought to be with respect specifically to baclofen and the travails of Dr. Ameisen.

I spaced totally on "online pharmacies" when I was considering my central point on access, i.e., "How exactly are the bazillions of drunks gonna get their hands on huge doses of an out-of-date muscle relaxer?" File me under "DUH" for that one.