Just received my Bac, not sure what to do now

[FoxMA]

I've just received my first shipment of Bac (Pacifen) today, I'm eager to start treating myself but I'm wondering if I should start raising doses before I have a supply high enough to be sure not to have the slightest chance to run out.

So before I even start, what if I maintain a low dose (say 30mg) for x weeks before applying Ameisen's protocol? Would I get used to it and would that push my switch level higher?

[eight days a week]

Just received my Bac, not sure what to do now

Hi Fox

You'd get used to it, but not in a bad way - it wouldn't push your switch any higher, I believe, your body would just get used to any side effects.

That said, I don't know what others would advise about starting - whether to do so now, or wait until you have more stock so that you can consistently increase as needed. I've read of people on here who've had great benefit, even been able to go AF, from a low dose, and personally it took me quite a while to increase doses up to my present 80mg a day.

Btw, I started off on the Pacifen too, bought from abroad, and it's no different from the regular UK prescription I have now - it's good stuff!

Please let us know how you get on

[Guest]

Just received my Bac, not sure what to do now

Fox,
How much do you have?

[eight days a week]

Just received my Bac, not sure what to do now

Hoping for the best;827716 wrote: Fox,
How much do you have?

A very important question! Also, how quickly do you expect you can get more supplies in Fox?

[hangingon]

Just received my Bac, not sure what to do now

I would start 2.5 3 times a day until you get more in. You can go a longer stretch before you increase if you are worried about running out.
hangin

[FoxMA]

Just received my Bac, not sure what to do now

Hoping for the best;827716 wrote: Fox,
How much do you have?

4 x 100 pills (10mg)
That's a supply of over 4 months at 30 mg per day, but only a few weeks if I follow the protocol and have to go high to hit the switch.

Plus I need to go abroad for several weeks in May and I'm wondering if I shouldn't wait till I come back to start raising the dosage anyway.

[eight days a week]

Just received my Bac, not sure what to do now

FoxMA;828405 wrote: 4 x 100 pills (10mg)
That's a supply of over 4 months at 30 mg per day, but only a few weeks if I follow the protocol and have to go high to hit the switch.

Plus I need to go abroad for several weeks in May and I'm wondering if I shouldn't wait till I come back to start raising the dosage anyway.

Start straightaway on 10~15mg (rising to 30mg) a day I say! And order more in asap!

Good luck and keep us posted how you get on

[Guest]

Just received my Bac, not sure what to do now

Fox,
I would go with the norm; 5 mg in morning, 5 mg in afternoon and 5 mg in evening - for 3 days, than go to 10-10-10 for 3 days. assuming you do not have side effects, I would go to 15-15-15. this puts you at about 270 mg used of the 1000 in about 9 days. i would go ahead an order another batch to have. Remember: alcohol will hit you harder while taking these, also, if you find they make you tired in the evening, use this as your answer to stop drinking. Go to bed and get a good nights rest instead of pushing yourself, or giving in to the cravings hoping that eventually you will not feel like it anymore. In my opinion, it would be better to fight back on the cravings and stop sooner, than wait for that magical "switch" when the drug has done all the work.

[Bill.P.]

Just received my Bac, not sure what to do now

depends obviously on you,

several methods are proven to work, I am partial to the fast titration as it was a dramatic reduction in cravings which proved that it worked. A bit psychological but I think we should go with the "lightswitch" approach.
Meaning the more dranatic you "flip the swithc off" the more you can feel the full power of the drug and therefor understand it.
Blood pressure medications take awhile same as antidepressants. So the majority self discontinue them having felt no effect.

I think the more dramatic the effect, the better the outcome. Problem is you may feel tired or weak for the first week or two.

Ramp up your dose to 100mg as soon as possible.
Start at 10 for 3 days, then 20 for 3 days, then 40 for 3 days then 80mg for 3 days.

As with many medicines, you have to feel sixk before you feel better. If it is too much i.e. cant stay awake at work. Then back off the titration.
You have fast titrators and slow ones. BUT the faster you allow yourself to get up over 100mg per day. The better off you will find. Far less cravings.

I ramped up to over 100mg and now I take 30 mg a day prn which means I only take it when around days like St Patricks or a friday.
Before that i was steady at 80 mg a day in divided doses.

Unfortunately, I had zero, I mean zero sex drive. No libido, So I am mailing Tiger some

[ATLThrash]

Just received my Bac, not sure what to do now

very interesting Bill

I just started natural supps hoping they would help me with the mental aspect of the craving (my body does nothing-- no shakes or anything-- just a mind hampster wheel)-- not sure if that will be true as so far I have white knuckled or in one case drank a little wine but soon gave it up-- too tired. Being in the US with my docs unwilling to prescribe bac (one said he woudl think about it but never at the Amieson levels-- basically told me that a patient would have to be almost to death for him to chance it and that 3 drink a night and the most 6 in the course of a weekend day is nto death to him -- yeah-- just to me) anyway, I am a bit scared to order the bac (I am a lawyer by trade so I know the wrath of the gov't and authorities if they think you haev crossed them even if it is supposed to be non-addictive-- they said no and by God they will make you sorry some way..) but I am serioulsy considering it. Besides sleepiness and libido issues-- any other side effects in your dose and your quick ramping up? Would be interested to know because I am almost at my breaking point in terms of pulling out every stop even if it goes against the establishment-- and to me, desperate times call for lots of measures-- to see what works and try as hard as I can. Thanks!

[Bill.P.]

Just received my Bac, not sure what to do now

ATLThrash;828535 wrote: I just started natural supps hoping they would help me with the mental aspect of the craving (my body does nothing-- no shakes or anything-- just a mind hampster wheel)-- not sure if that will be true as so far I have white knuckled or in one case drank a little wine but soon gave it up-- too tired. Being in the US with my docs unwilling to prescribe bac (one said he woudl think about it but never at the Amieson levels-- basically told me that a patient would have to be almost to death for him to chance it and that 3 drink a night and the most 6 in the course of a weekend day is nto death to him -- yeah-- just to me) anyway, I am a bit scared to order the bac (I am a lawyer by trade so I know the wrath of the gov't and authorities if they think you haev crossed them even if it is supposed to be non-addictive-- they said no and by God they will make you sorry some way..) but I am serioulsy considering it. Besides sleepiness and libido issues-- any other side effects in your dose and your quick ramping up? Would be interested to know because I am almost at my breaking point in terms of pulling out every stop even if it goes against the establishment-- and to me, desperate times call for lots of measures-- to see what works and try as hard as I can. Thanks!

Look mate, no governtment official is giong to hassle you about baclofen. First off, its not a controlled substance and Second off, it falls under the Irish category. You cannot bust an Irish guy if he's trying to get sober.
Thats the unwritten rule since the Kennedys. You cant get busted for talking in AA, you arent going to get hassled for baclofen.
Its just how it is so dont worry about baclofen.

Plus, if you order baclofen for several months, show a primary care doctor, a new one. He wont take you off the dose for fear of withdrawal symtoms, meaning, you continue the prescription.

Start off and dont worry with the mail order prescription, just dont get ripped off. I think the site that sponsors here rips people off for 1$ per 10 mg pill River Pharmacy. One of the reasons I stopped posting here is that scam.
But other sites can get about 15cents per pilll and if you go to walmart its five cents per pill.

NOW, five cents per 10 mg pill versus 1$ per 10 mg pill and you need 100mg on average.
Well

[ATLThrash]

Just received my Bac, not sure what to do now

Bill

Are you Irish?? I am some and mostly Italian. My Irish may be getting the best now (or worst). What pharm do you rec and please any side effects? If I am going to subject hubs to more changes at least want him to know! THX

[Bill.P.]

Just received my Bac, not sure what to do now

ATLThrash;828591 wrote: Are you Irish?? I am some and mostly Italian. My Irish may be getting the best now (or worst). What pharm do you rec and please any side effects? If I am going to subject hubs to more changes at least want him to know! THX

100% irish, actually, I heard we conquered Ireland in 1100 so I guess Im Norman bred into the Celts lol, If we werent all Celts to begin with.

Problem is, I can put 1000 drugs on a table and a beer and Ill pick a beer 1000 times. Its who I am.
Baclofen stops that. its a wonder drug.

Side effects, well the libido, those who saw my posts when this first started here before I deleted them know that I quit alcohol instead of suicide to get my aussie wife to come here.
Well, my dick dont work with baclofen. LOL
so pick your poison.

Love of your life or drink of your life

[ATLThrash]

Just received my Bac, not sure what to do now

Hmm

Hubby 100% Irish-- great grandfather Irish cop in Chicago-- tons of ALs in his family-- he is not one. Mine -- almost all Italian but with a GF who was slightly Irish-- yep--he had an issue- - the Italians did not win with me! Fortunately (or not) a woman does not have the exact same libido issues as a man-- I may not want to engage but am physically okay to-- being tired would not bother me in the least. I had a concussion (not Al related) and have slept about 3 hours a night in little 15 minute bursts for 10 or more years! I would pik the beer too-- not drugs-- have migrines from the concussion-- know I cannot sleep and they would aid in it and still rarely take them even when have a bad headache.

What pharm do you find helpful for bac? I may just try it. Could not hurt!

[Bill.P.]

Just received my Bac, not sure what to do now

Well I just get a prescription. Its super cheap generic, like 4$ a month for the forumulary, so itake 4 times that so 16$ a month from walmart or fred meyers.

I have had really good luck with 4RX.COM: Your Online Source For Affordable Generic Medications

Primarily to ship meds to Australia for my wife before she came to the states. The socialized medicine doesnt allow for certain drugs there even if its the best choice.
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