Baclofen prescribing doctors in the UK

[SW16]

Baclofen prescribing doctors in the UK

My update

From ringing around today, using contacts from members 'I've been offered appointments at either ?300 or ?350 per hour.

The receptionists at both clinics have not been able to say if the consultants are, in principle, willing to proscribe Bac. I said i need this to be considered as a minimum and am hoping to hear tomorrow or Thursday.

One at ?100 per hour was quite clear that the Dr didn't deal with my sort.

I hope they call. I'm now far too pissed to work out where i got the details and who i have to call again, i must have called 10/15 specialists today and have now been drinking for the last three hours, thank god for spell checks!!

[betty boop]

Baclofen prescribing doctors in the UK

London sw16;861247 wrote: From ringing around today, using contacts from members 'I've been offered appointments at either ?300 or ?350 per hour.

The receptionists at both clinics have not been able to say if the consultants are, in principle, willing to proscribe Bac. I said i need this to be considered as a minimum and am hoping to hear tomorrow or Thursday.

One at ?100 per hour was quite clear that the Dr didn't deal with my sort.

I hope they call. I'm now far too pissed to work out where i got the details and who i have to call again, i must have called 10/15 specialists today and have now been drinking for the last three hours, thank god for spell checks!!

I'm sorry to hear that, you could buy an awful lot of bac online for that amount of money ........... sorry again, BB xx

[Otter]

Baclofen prescribing doctors in the UK

Hi

We were referred by the Causeway to Dr. Jonathan Chick who is a private psychiatrist in Edinburgh and London. He edits the Oxford Journal of Alcohol and Alcoholism and was head of psychiatry for Lothian NHS. He now works privately. He prescribed Baclofen at 100 mg and wrote to our GP who has agreed to continue that prescription so we can now get it on prescription through the NHS. This is a great result. Since going onto an increased dosage my wife has experience the "trigger" and has no cravings. She says she has not felt this way in 30 years.

Dr. Chick works out of London so he can prescribe from there as well as up here in Scotland. It is interesting that there is now at least one GP in Glasgow who now accepts that it is ok to prescribe high dosage Baclofen for alcoholism and Dr. Chick is able to explain to any doctor in the UK why they should prescribe at a high dose.

Also... we went on holiday to Mallorca and found that we could get any amount of Baclofen from a pharmacy without prescription. One pharmacy said that they did need a pharmacy so you have to shop around. So, a cheap flight to Spain and you can get as much baclofen as you want without worrying about the internet. It is quite cheap. About ?2.40 for a box of 30.

[betty boop]

Baclofen prescribing doctors in the UK

WOW, thanks Otter xxx

[Otter]

Baclofen prescribing doctors in the UK

betty boop;862193 wrote: WOW, thanks Otter xxx

If you cannot afford to go to Edinburgh there is a pharmacy on the front in Porto de Soller, Mallorca that sells Baclofen without prescription. There is a hostel just up the road on the way into Soller. You can get a flight to Mallorca on Ryanair for about ?29 one way during the week. I cannot think of a nicer place to go to sober up and get a few months supply!

[Brave Hearted]

Baclofen prescribing doctors in the UK

All this makes very interesting reading, what would happen if you get stopped at customs will a large quanity of baclofen ? would it classed as drug smuggling as its a prescription drug here in the UK ? Know this is a baclofen thread but what about naltrezone ? will doctors prescribe this along side the bac ? that would be eveb better as its a fairly expensive drug or can that be brought in Spain as well ?

SW hang in there you will find a way to overcome this Roman was not built in a day, but you have opened your account at the Builders Merchants and laid the foundations already. Stay strong and positive and u wait u will be posting to other on here aobut how great bac is !

BH x

[pompeyman]

Baclofen prescribing doctors in the UK

hi all from here in a really lovely summer early morning in england ...... i have spent years worrying about getting a job .... what people ..... including my kids ..... family .... work colleagues ...... students .... think of me ...... i have resigned from my teaching job as of sept ..... because of al ..... no job yet ...... got 3 degrees from diff uk unis.... no longer worry about what people think ..... i am ill .... i am getting treatment ...... im kind of proud i have "outed" myself .... it has allowed me to get on the path to recovery .... i realise the social circumstances/insurance/pension situation is diff elsewhere eg usa ... but we get one life ... if we dont beat this thing we die early ... take care all of you fellow sufferers .... and yes Pompey didnt win the FA cup !!!xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[pompeyman]

Baclofen prescribing doctors in the UK

brave hearted .... i am being prescribed nal here in plymouth uk ..... send me a private message if you want to chat how

[betty boop]

Baclofen prescribing doctors in the UK

Otter;864049 wrote: If you cannot afford to go to Edinburgh there is a pharmacy on the front in Porto de Soller, Mallorca that sells Baclofen without prescription. There is a hostel just up the road on the way into Soller. You can get a flight to Mallorca on Ryanair for about ?29 one way during the week. I cannot think of a nicer place to go to sober up and get a few months supply!

Excellent Idea :H:H:H

[Guest]

Baclofen prescribing doctors in the UK

Brave Hearted;864178 wrote: All this makes very interesting reading, what would happen if you get stopped at customs will a large quanity of baclofen ? would it classed as drug smuggling as its a prescription drug here in the UK ? Know this is a baclofen thread but what about naltrezone ? will doctors prescribe this along side the bac ? that would be eveb better as its a fairly expensive drug or can that be brought in Spain as well ?

SW hang in there you will find a way to overcome this Roman was not built in a day, but you have opened your account at the Builders Merchants and laid the foundations already. Stay strong and positive and u wait u will be posting to other on here aobut how great bac is !

BH x

I believe it's only 'controlled' prescription drugs you would get in trouble for. This includes things like valium, morphine etc but don't quote me on that!

[Otter]

Baclofen prescribing doctors in the UK

Bringing Baclofen into the UK

If you can purchase a medication legally in the EU without prescription and order it into the UK without prescription then no one is going to be bothered. No one knows what it is anyway. If customs found it they would think it was for MS.

Ameisen discusses Naltrexone in his book. He found that it doesn't work. I tried it and have to agree. You can find out about Naltrexone on the Sinclair Method forums. It is very expensive and the literature suggests it only works for about 3 months, if that. The Sinclair Method involves taking a pill before every drink so that it takes away the pleasure of drinking. The Causeway Clinic in Essex uses both medications. Ameisen's theory is that Baclofen affects a different part of the brain than Naltrexone which explains why it is successful where Naltrexone is not. If he is right then Baclofen is as as close to a "cure" for the condition that underlies alcoholism as you can get. Naltrexone is an opioid agonist which acts on the opioid receptor. There is some research to show that if you take Naltrexone your opioid receptors will increase to compensate and the effects of Naltrexone will wear off. It is a medication which can make you feel quite drunk and the expense is such that it would be hard to increase the dosage and take it continuously as you can with Baclofen which is cheap and does not have the same side effects. Ameisen mentions drugs companies who have played with the idea of testing the two meds together. The reason for this is that Naltrexone is under patent and they wanted to make money by increasing its effectiveness. They gave up on the idea though.

Moving on... does anyone know of anyone other than Jonathan Chick who prescribes or is it taboo to mention names of doctors?

[eight days a week]

Baclofen prescribing doctors in the UK

Otter;869253 wrote: If you can purchase a medication legally in the EU without prescription and order it into the UK without prescription then no one is going to be bothered. No one knows what it is anyway. If customs found it they would think it was for MS.
Spot on, thank you!

Otter;869253 wrote: Ameisen discusses Naltrexone in his book. He found that it doesn't work. I tried it and have to agree. You can find out about Naltrexone on the Sinclair Method forums. It is very expensive and the literature suggests it only works for about 3 months, if that. The Sinclair Method involves taking a pill before every drink so that it takes away the pleasure of drinking....

Well, there's far more to TSM than just that! But, it seems that Dr Ameisen fundamentally misunderstood Naltrexone (i.e. took it as per patent and not under TSM). I'd be absolutely fascinated to hear what he thought of the potential of TSM applied properly. Unfortunately, Baclofen seems to be tearing ahead in terms of worldwide respect and interest. I'm not sure that's right, myself....but it's up to Eskapa and others to try to remedy that, and Sinclair too. Not enough respected medical doctors seem to be behind TSM, whereas Baclofen already has that support, if only in patches.

Otter;869253 wrote: Moving on... does anyone know of anyone other than Jonathan Chick who prescribes or is it taboo to mention names of doctors?

Thank you so much! This is the reason, really, for this thread. I hope it's not taboo! But if a doctor would prefer not to be identified on this thread itself, we can always help each other via PM :goodjob:

[Brave Hearted]

Baclofen prescribing doctors in the UK

Hi just a quick up date I am seeing Prof Chick in Edinburgh on the 5th July he charges ?180 for an hours consultation and i spoke to him on the phone he was extrememly helpful, said he could prescribe me baclofen, he is interested to meet me as I am already taking it. He also said that if I wanted he could contact my GP and get them to take over perscribing it, not something I want on my record, but for anyboy who that is not an issue with would be ideal. I am not sure how much it costs to have a private perscription filed but I am paying about ?50 a month at the minute for my bac online, which obvioulsy could be anything as it comes from India. So seeing Prof Chick makes sense all round and to have it prescribed under medical supervision was this time last year only something I could dream off. You can google Prof Chick and get his number I dont think its fair for me to put his number up without asking him, he is easy to find and I googled him to check he is reputable and he is what it says on the tin ! . I know another mwo member has already seen him and had a very positive experience.

If you need to get to Edinburgh you can get cheap train tickets online , if you book in advance, from the North West its ?30 return not bad at all.

The Dr in America Levin, was charging $180 dollars an hour and that was just for a telephone consultation and then I think the perscrition is extra on top of that, so Prof Chick is cheap in comparrision.

[scot98]

Baclofen prescribing doctors in the UK

Brave Hearted;879439 wrote: Hi just a quick up date I am seeing Prof Chick in Edinburgh on the 5th July he charges ?180 for an hours consultation and i spoke to him on the phone he was extrememly helpful, said he could prescribe me baclofen, he is interested to meet me as I am already taking it. He also said that if I wanted he could contact my GP and get them to take over perscribing it, not something I want on my record, but for anyboy who that is not an issue with would be ideal. I am not sure how much it costs to have a private perscription filed but I am paying about ?50 a month at the minute for my bac online, which obvioulsy could be anything as it comes from India. So seeing Prof Chick makes sense all round and to have it prescribed under medical supervision was this time last year only something I could dream off. You can google Prof Chick and get his number I dont think its fair for me to put his number up without asking him, he is easy to find and I googled him to check he is reputable and he is what it says on the tin ! . I know another mwo member has already seen him and had a very positive experience.

If you need to get to Edinburgh you can get cheap train tickets online , if you book in advance, from the North West its ?30 return not bad at all.

The Dr in America Levin, was charging $180 dollars an hour and that was just for a telephone consultation and then I think the perscrition is extra on top of that, so Prof Chick is cheap in comparrision.

This is interesting as I was discussing the benefits with seeing Prof Chick with a friend recently. I did email him and he did say he was happy to see me in Edinburgh, great I thought until I saw my GP with an article on Baclofen and he was not in any way open to prescribing it.....even under Prof Chick's guidance! I am taking Naltrexone at present but as great as it is, I am drinking quite heavily.....and it is expensive with buying the tabs and AL.......
BH I am not sure what a private script is but I know that the fee to see the consultant+the travel (if applicable) and if your GP is not at all willing to prescribe......possibly as costly?
I just feel really let down by my GP, think I may change practice....I do get the feeling he thinks this addiction is all about willpower! OH how wrong is he!

Best to all

[SW16]

Baclofen prescribing doctors in the UK

Cost of private script

It's not expensive, 270 X 10mg is less then a tenner at my local pharmacy, it could vary. It's 1 pence per 10 mg pill plus whatever the commission the pharmacy charges.