Dr Olivier Ameisen (part 2 of my message)
To me, this and other sentences in his other missive (part 1), clearly indicate that he is suggesting ways for us to help that do not involve him. He never asks us to, or even indicates he wants us to, contact him directly. In fact, it feels like he is distancing himself from us by telling us all he is doing, indicating how busy he is, but that he is kindly sharing with us what is happening, to reassure us, but certainly not looking for input... for that, he refers us to someone else.
Also, he begins the first message with: (sorry, I still can't manage double quotes)
"I have adopted a policy to not intervene in forums because these are yours and should remain so. But I thought it might be help stimulate the debate. "
To me, this is also a message of distancing himself from individual interaction with him, whilst encouraging us to continue. And why shouldn't he? He is a very busy man, and he sees our forum as having a life of its own, and doesn't want to interfere. We are not made to feel he wants our input in any way. Bothering him with PMs and emails wuold be inappropriate and bothersome at best.
There are other parts of his messages that give this nuance -- a pedagogic update, much needed and very reassuring, but no personal element meant to draw people in individually.
Now, of course he is a person, and as such, human, and he can expect things without realizing how he should communicate that, he can be disappointed that more people didn't contact him after his long messages (probably not so easy for him to write in English).
(Now if you say he has to write in English all the time, he is an internationally renowned doctor submitting papers in English to journals all over the world, then you would be forgetting that he has editors for those kinds of things, while this message came directly from him... from his heart, and he wouldn't have editors for a personal message.)
And being human, he can also change his mind, or regret not being more inviting, or just not understand how come people got the feeling he didn't want direct contact. (because maybe he didn't want it before, but he does now?)
The whole point of this post is to show that at no point does Dr. encourage us to contact him personally, and while certain "take the bull by the horns" people like Neva Eva have had the guts to do it, and then, to her (and our) surprise was answered and in fact engaged in a dialog with him, most of us would hesitate because of the reasons given above (the content of his messages and how he expresses himself together with our reluctance to bother the great man, who is, after all THE great leader for us.)
In fact, I think many people also hesitated to contact Dr. L for similar reasons, and, as mentioned by many here, they didn't want to inundate him with calls. There was never even any talk about fees, at first, and people indicated he did this out of the good of his heart (which I still believe he does -- he just understandably needs to be compensated for the huge amount of time he gives to us).
...another long-winded repetitive, probably incomprehensible post.:sigh:
Dr Olivier Ameisen;830641 wrote: If I may make a suggestion, I believe that it would probably be most productive for you (and for them) to contact the French forum that has become very well structured and organized. (my emphasis). The name of the forum is: “alcool et baclofene”: Alcool et baclofene and the forum is Baclofene
The person you should contact is “Anuck” because he is fluent in English. His email address is: jpr1@romandie.com ... On the website “alcool et baclofene”, one physician responds to all patients’ questions.
It is crucial for you to understand that this fight for your survival and for your dignity, or for that of your loved ones is in your hands (my emphasis) and to continue your remarkable work.
Warm regards to all,
Olivier Ameisen, M.D. Visiting Professor of Medicine
State University of New York Downstate Medical Center
PS In the next few days (date still to be scheduled), I shall be talking about my book and my discovery on a radio show in the US, along with a few patients who are cured and are going to go by their full name, as well as two physicians who have cured many patients using my method. One is a professor of psychiatry and neuroscience. The other one is an addiction psychiatrist. It is critical that patients start disclosing their names and accept to appear on TV, as has happened in France, Germany and Brazil. This contributes to eliminate the shame, the stigma that are associated with this disease and that limit the struggle against this disease. Who is afraid of somebody who does not dare showing his face, giving his full name?
For those interested in taking a look at my publications in peer-reviewed medical journals, please visit PubMed, the official Website of the U.S. National Library of Medicine and of the National Institutes of Health PubMed home.
The person you should contact is “Anuck” because he is fluent in English. His email address is: jpr1@romandie.com ... On the website “alcool et baclofene”, one physician responds to all patients’ questions.
It is crucial for you to understand that this fight for your survival and for your dignity, or for that of your loved ones is in your hands (my emphasis) and to continue your remarkable work.
Warm regards to all,
Olivier Ameisen, M.D. Visiting Professor of Medicine
State University of New York Downstate Medical Center
PS In the next few days (date still to be scheduled), I shall be talking about my book and my discovery on a radio show in the US, along with a few patients who are cured and are going to go by their full name, as well as two physicians who have cured many patients using my method. One is a professor of psychiatry and neuroscience. The other one is an addiction psychiatrist. It is critical that patients start disclosing their names and accept to appear on TV, as has happened in France, Germany and Brazil. This contributes to eliminate the shame, the stigma that are associated with this disease and that limit the struggle against this disease. Who is afraid of somebody who does not dare showing his face, giving his full name?
For those interested in taking a look at my publications in peer-reviewed medical journals, please visit PubMed, the official Website of the U.S. National Library of Medicine and of the National Institutes of Health PubMed home.
Also, he begins the first message with: (sorry, I still can't manage double quotes)
"I have adopted a policy to not intervene in forums because these are yours and should remain so. But I thought it might be help stimulate the debate. "
To me, this is also a message of distancing himself from individual interaction with him, whilst encouraging us to continue. And why shouldn't he? He is a very busy man, and he sees our forum as having a life of its own, and doesn't want to interfere. We are not made to feel he wants our input in any way. Bothering him with PMs and emails wuold be inappropriate and bothersome at best.
There are other parts of his messages that give this nuance -- a pedagogic update, much needed and very reassuring, but no personal element meant to draw people in individually.
Now, of course he is a person, and as such, human, and he can expect things without realizing how he should communicate that, he can be disappointed that more people didn't contact him after his long messages (probably not so easy for him to write in English).
(Now if you say he has to write in English all the time, he is an internationally renowned doctor submitting papers in English to journals all over the world, then you would be forgetting that he has editors for those kinds of things, while this message came directly from him... from his heart, and he wouldn't have editors for a personal message.)
And being human, he can also change his mind, or regret not being more inviting, or just not understand how come people got the feeling he didn't want direct contact. (because maybe he didn't want it before, but he does now?)
The whole point of this post is to show that at no point does Dr. encourage us to contact him personally, and while certain "take the bull by the horns" people like Neva Eva have had the guts to do it, and then, to her (and our) surprise was answered and in fact engaged in a dialog with him, most of us would hesitate because of the reasons given above (the content of his messages and how he expresses himself together with our reluctance to bother the great man, who is, after all THE great leader for us.)
In fact, I think many people also hesitated to contact Dr. L for similar reasons, and, as mentioned by many here, they didn't want to inundate him with calls. There was never even any talk about fees, at first, and people indicated he did this out of the good of his heart (which I still believe he does -- he just understandably needs to be compensated for the huge amount of time he gives to us).
...another long-winded repetitive, probably incomprehensible post.:sigh:
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