Baclofen Efficacy Reversal
Thanks for sharing your personal correspondence, John. I really appreciate it.
I understand your reluctance to go down. I was way too eager, and am very grateful that I went back up relatively quickly. After I went down I drank a beer or two a couple of times a week, socially, with my husband who was still drinking alcoholically at the time. It didn't instigate craving but it was the booze was still there... I kept wondering if/when the beast/craving/disease was going to kick in full force and return me to drinking against my will. It was a couple of months later that I decided to completely abstain for 30 days, which of course was effortless. I still drink very occasionally. A glass of wine with dinner, perhaps. Frankly, this was an immature response to the status quo that says we can never be well--that alcohol and alcoholism will always be a part of our lives. I still revel a bit in the fact that I do not count days, do not see alcohol as a threat, do not have to think about it at all. (What can I say? I'm human. It feels good to thumb my nose a bit. I'll grow out of it, I suppose!
) I do not suggest, recommend or advise this course of thought or action! :H
Ironically, I was one of the ones that swore I would never drink again once I was freed from the burden. I think for me, and for many others, it simply takes time. Indifference comes and there is still the habit, of course. But there is also a childish glee in consuming something that used to be so consuming. Silly, as I said. And quite possibly dangerous. Now I am more likely to see booze as simply a bad choice for my health. I'm lethargic and out of sorts after only a drink. I'm too busy for that nonsense!
As to OA and the titration: He started bac in 2002, got up to 180mg but was still bingeing despite the cessation of anxiety and lowered craving. In 2004 he went down to 30mg to begin his titration up to 270mg where he found that he was indifferent while sitting in a bar in a ski lodge in Megeve. Would that my own realization was that glamorous. (It is to this American anyway!) (p. 147-168 in The End of My Addiction)
When rereading the passages last night I was struck by this sentence: "There were no interfering 'parasite' thoughts, which usually invade and preoccupy the mind almost constantly in addiction." (167)
That is SO true for me. It's been so long since I've picked up the book I had forgotten how succinctly he sums up the experience of being indifferent. Those consuming, persuasive, overwhelmingly negative parasitic thoughts are gone. Is that true for you, too?
Power on, John! Very glad you're here!
Thanks for sharing your personal correspondence, John. I really appreciate it.
I understand your reluctance to go down. I was way too eager, and am very grateful that I went back up relatively quickly. After I went down I drank a beer or two a couple of times a week, socially, with my husband who was still drinking alcoholically at the time. It didn't instigate craving but it was the booze was still there... I kept wondering if/when the beast/craving/disease was going to kick in full force and return me to drinking against my will. It was a couple of months later that I decided to completely abstain for 30 days, which of course was effortless. I still drink very occasionally. A glass of wine with dinner, perhaps. Frankly, this was an immature response to the status quo that says we can never be well--that alcohol and alcoholism will always be a part of our lives. I still revel a bit in the fact that I do not count days, do not see alcohol as a threat, do not have to think about it at all. (What can I say? I'm human. It feels good to thumb my nose a bit. I'll grow out of it, I suppose!
) I do not suggest, recommend or advise this course of thought or action! :H Ironically, I was one of the ones that swore I would never drink again once I was freed from the burden. I think for me, and for many others, it simply takes time. Indifference comes and there is still the habit, of course. But there is also a childish glee in consuming something that used to be so consuming. Silly, as I said. And quite possibly dangerous. Now I am more likely to see booze as simply a bad choice for my health. I'm lethargic and out of sorts after only a drink. I'm too busy for that nonsense!
As to OA and the titration: He started bac in 2002, got up to 180mg but was still bingeing despite the cessation of anxiety and lowered craving. In 2004 he went down to 30mg to begin his titration up to 270mg where he found that he was indifferent while sitting in a bar in a ski lodge in Megeve. Would that my own realization was that glamorous. (It is to this American anyway!) (p. 147-168 in The End of My Addiction)
When rereading the passages last night I was struck by this sentence: "There were no interfering 'parasite' thoughts, which usually invade and preoccupy the mind almost constantly in addiction." (167)
That is SO true for me. It's been so long since I've picked up the book I had forgotten how succinctly he sums up the experience of being indifferent. Those consuming, persuasive, overwhelmingly negative parasitic thoughts are gone. Is that true for you, too?
Power on, John! Very glad you're here!
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