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    #1

    Is this a panic attack?

    I feel like I need to share my experience today:
    I took 10mg of Bac this morning at 7am. Another at 1:30pm. I was driving on a long, long bridge when I took it. (My stupidity never ceases to amaze me.)
    About a half hour after the second dose, I could feel my head getting heavy and began to feel, well, wonky. To be honest it felt like the beginning of a trip on hallucinogens. (From what I can remember-that was many years ago.) I wasn't hallucinating, but the messages getting to my brain were not in sync with what I was seeing. I couldn't take my head off the head rest without feeling like I was going to pass out. I pulled over, called my husband and while on the phone with him decided I needed to call EMS.
    Of course, I'm fine physically, and having someone have a panic attack (?) on this particular bridge, it turns out, is not so unusual. Fortunately for me, the police and ambulance people were pretty non-chalant. I haven't ever experienced anything like that in my life. Extreme dizziness, heavy limbs and head, I just felt disconnected. It was really bizarre and frightening. I was extremely close to fainting on several occasions.

    All that said, I offer this caveat: I am not trying to dissuade anyone from Baclofen, or any other option that offers us a solution. We need all we have in our arsenal. I don't follow directions well, knew beforehand that I'm having SEs that are not typical for 30mg. I don't have a plan, and haven't been rigid about the times I take the pills. Also, I generally drink the same amount every night, and because I'm on vacation, have been drinking 50% more every day. And also, the diet/exercise routine has not been very routine.
    Still, I don't get how people dose up so quickly on this stuff. Or to the levels we need to get to. I've been taking 30mg/day for several days. I also don't get my reaction. I'm still not feeling normal. Did I get the wrong pill?
    While I'm not going to give up completely (though going to titrate down to nothing) I'm definitely not going any further with the current program. I'll try to call Dr. Levin tonight and find a doctor locally.
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    #2
    Is this a panic attack?

    I can't imagine the combination of bac plus alcohol. I think each would make the other's effects worse as they both activate the GABA system. I had quite a lot of somnolence on even 10 mg 3 times per day and would not want to have been driving at peak dose. I suggest you back off on both the bac dose and the booze and go up more slowly. I hope you can get a sympathetic doc involved. there could be something else going on.
    Sunny

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      #3
      Is this a panic attack?

      How not to take Baclofen...

      I'm a flippin' idiot. I'm embarrassed that I did it and feel as though I'm doing a disservice to all of the people who are working to get this to the ears of addiction specialists. And oh my, the work some of you have put in to help others! I hesitate to post again because it'll bump it.
      Still, if anyone comes upon this, and I read a lot on here before I started the bac, please see the consolidated baclofen thread.
      I'm at least a little humbled by it and have made an appointment with an addiction psychiatrist. (again! grrrrr.) Will try to get in to see gp this week to rule out something else, though frankly, it's clear from many others on here that my AL consumption may be a big part of the problem. Also going to follow some of the advice re. tools and maybe TSM. If I could, at this point, control my drinking at all... Well, I never would've ended up here.
      Also talked to Dr. Levin this morning and while alarmed he just told me I need to take it more slowly. (Duh.)
      I've been acting as though this is a game. I don't want to die a drunk. That's no flipping game. I am not more clever, intelligent, determined, or fit than many who've died from this. And certainly much less so than many who have found sobriety, and offered their information on this site.
      mea culpa.

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        #4
        Is this a panic attack?

        researching;895742 wrote: I'm a flippin' idiot. I'm embarrassed that I did it and feel as though I'm doing a disservice to all of the people who are working to get this to the ears of addiction specialists. And oh my, the work some of you have put in to help others! I hesitate to post again because it'll bump it.
        Still, if anyone comes upon this, and I read a lot on here before I started the bac, please see the consolidated baclofen thread.
        I'm at least a little humbled by it and have made an appointment with an addiction psychiatrist. (again! grrrrr.) Will try to get in to see gp this week to rule out something else, though frankly, it's clear from many others on here that my AL consumption may be a big part of the problem. Also going to follow some of the advice re. tools and maybe TSM. If I could, at this point, control my drinking at all... Well, I never would've ended up here.
        Also talked to Dr. Levin this morning and while alarmed he just told me I need to take it more slowly. (Duh.)
        I've been acting as though this is a game. I don't want to die a drunk. That's no flipping game. I am not more clever, intelligent, determined, or fit than many who've died from this. And certainly much less so than many who have found sobriety, and offered their information on this site.
        mea culpa.
        You are not an idiot, and sharing your experience on this forum is very valuable to many others.

        What was Dr. Levin alarmed about?
        Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life... And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.

        Steve Jobs, Stanford Commencement Adress, 2005

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          #5
          Is this a panic attack?

          Well last week I accidentally took an additional 50mg :shocked: and had unreal SE's so I can totally understand this. If it were me, I'd back off to 25mg till you have no sleepiness for 3 days and then go back up to 30. I know you want to get there, I did, too. I started in Nov, went up too fast to 190 and decided to quit. Went down to 30 and decided to give it another go. Started back up in March and am now at 200.

          You just may be more sensitive to SE's than the average bear, that's all. Respect that and go up slowly. I don't go up until the SE's are gone at the current dose for 3 days.
          Go before that fire there, at the altar of your heart
          That fire of who you really are and be consumed by it fully
          Surrender everything into the fire of that love until you are one with that love. You ARE that love.
          Tilak Pyle Altar of the Heart

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            #6
            Is this a panic attack?

            hi res

            i am a regular sufferer of panic attacks. those sound like some of the symptoms and it is certainly not rare for someone having a panic attack to call emergency services. i have no experience of baclofen and i don't know any of the side effects, but i also know that being aware of the symtoms of panic attacks helps us deal with them better when they do arrive. the most important thing to learn is that panic attacks, whilst unpleasant, don't harm you.

            sorry i cannot offer any more advice. stay safe.

            gw x
            The mind will intellectualize it, the heart will emotionalize it, yet the gut never lies.

            https://www.mywayout.org/community/f9/girly-wirly-s-toolbox-2-45452.html

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              #7
              Is this a panic attack?

              I had to titrate up to 50mg VERY SLOWLY. At first I was prescribed 10mg/3X's a day. WHOA! Side effects were unbelievable. I felt like I was on another planet.

              So... with that said, I would titrate up as slowly as possible. I had to wean back to 5mg/3X's a day and even then I had strange side effects.

              I also suffer from Panic Disorder so none of this was cool with me. It was a nightmare.

              Just be careful especially if you are not being monitored by a doctor.
              The Universe stirs up our comfortable nests, and pushes us over the edge of them, forcing us to use out wings...

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                #8
                Is this a panic attack?

                I find that taking bac in very small doses but more frequently (titrating up by taking it more often, not in larger amounts) mitigated the SEs somwhat. It is cumbersome to do (remembering to take it at frequent intervals), but worth the effort for me.
                Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life... And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.

                Steve Jobs, Stanford Commencement Adress, 2005

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