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    I have started with BAC on April 2 2010, 2 months prior to that my shrink has advised me to take cymbalta which I did. Starting out on BAC, having read A?s book, thinking that if bac works against depression/anxiety , i left away the cymbalta and had instant success, namely bac seriously easing my craving on even low doses. After 1 week into the journey, I got so terribly aggressive that I had to revert to the intake of 60/mg cymbalta. It might have been the case that in this period i went through some considerable family stress and the aggressions were a result of the latter, however although the aggressions subsided the bac lost its magic. For those who have read my contributions here, i had to go (while taking cymbalta) to 275/day of bac and thought i had reached my switch dose i continued relapsing and went form one binge to the next. I went all the way up to 350 a day, still taking cymbalta and no ?switch? in sight. I don?t even want to talk about the SEs up there as all of you can imagine they are not fun. I gave up, i said to myself i cannot go any further, doing all of this without medical advice ad i have non handy. I recalled the first days on bac and thought to myself, leave the cymbalta out and you will get there. And indeed form the first day, taking 250 bac and no cymbalta the carvings were gone, over, no more binges, i do sit with my mates we watch the football, they drink pint after pint, i order myself one too, but after one swig i let it sit there untouched for the 3rd day in a row. Still testing myself out, though i never felt that close to success.
    I pose here the theory that cymbalta hampers bac to work, would the bloody medical establishment finally get on to looking into bac and alcohol many of us would not be forced into these suicidal self trials, taking buckets of the drug we all know nothing about but which 100% certain works. Please, i beg you, the scientists among us readers here, take this little write up here and look into the works of bac and AD?s.
    For those of you who read my stuff, you know its Friday today, this time around and despite 350mg of bac i would be drinking my 12th pint and slowly would swap to the vodka. Thanks to bac and my own revelation i still can write this lines, totally sober and conscious

    #2
    cymbalta Baclofen

    Rudolf,

    Congratulations! That is fantastic news! Great to be sober and conscious on a Friday!

    Rusty

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      #3
      cymbalta Baclofen

      thanks rusty

      yeah mate, great news, i cant believe that myself, and with this bloody AD out of my system I even enjoy it...

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        cymbalta Baclofen

        Rudolf,

        It's frightening how much doctors DON'T know....it really is. My doctor is a 46-year-old progressive doctor who is into alternative (holistic) medicine and she had not even heard of Campral!!! When I went for my appt. with her in October, 2008, she said REHAB. and I said, NO WAY! She said, "that's the most effective treatment," and I said "only if I am committed to stop drinking altogether and I'm not, so why spend the money my insurance won't cover....just to get out after 28 days and immediately start drinking?"

        That's why I ordered NAL and BAC online. I had no confidence in my doctor after that point....shocked that as progressive as she is, she had never even heard of Campral. So, I'm certain she wouldn't have heard of NAL or BAC either then.

        If it weren't for MWO, I'd still be on a miserable path to destruction.

        I'm happy for you, Rudolf....I really am!!!

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          #5
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          i am pretty certain however that bac will be out and about there very quickly, it is however still mandatory to properly research it, its interaction with other drugs etc etc....and than every doctor will know about it, and how to use it...maybe too late for many of us

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            cymbalta Baclofen

            Hi Rudolf,

            This is a very interesting post, sorry to hear about all you went through with cymbalta and baclofen. I am so pleased you have your life under control now....after much doubt that baclofen would work for you, well done!
            Going on your last comment, it is so sad that there are people dying out there, my guess thousands! yet the medical professionals are either completely oblivious....no doubt as the pharmaceutical companies are top dog along with traditional twelve step rehab. On the other hand you have GP's like my own(not for much longer) who said what I was doing was very Unorthodox! Yeah maybe! but it is sure as hell better than anything I have been offered by him or the NHS! The sad thing is baclofen has been around since the 1920's, my aunt died from alcoholism 18 years ago and I find it very sad that there was a drug that could have saved her life, albeit balcofen's effect on alcoholism was not known at the time, but yet my GP is not in any way interested in anything other than seeing a CPN( community psychiatric nurse) It's a sad situation and almost criminal in some ways.

            Interactions with other drugs can be serious and thanks for sharing this with us all Rudolf.

            Best wishes

            Scot

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              #7
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              thanks scot

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                Rudolf, that's interesting....how are you doing without the cymbalta? I'm on wellbutrin and I have not experienced the switch -- up to 190mg now and ready to throw in the towel. (I'm 5'3" and started at 125 lbs but thanks to bac weigh more now!!) I think suddenly withdrawing from anti-depressants can make you very anxious and aggressive, as well as a host of other unpleasant SEs. I know if I miss two days of wellbutrin I get very edgy. I can't imagine the SEs you must have felt at 350mg. Whoa!

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                  #9
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                  hi hoping
                  the first time wthouth cymbalta was horrible for me and my family, i was an aggressive bastard, totally out of control..however i had a very stressfull time then anyway in job and famliy, so dont really know...this time around its better, my family went on a 4 weeks vacation and i thought i try that again, no agressions so far. might come, i dont care though, i see that through now, wont last forever..
                  dont know wellbutrin and as i said i am no doctor, would these doctors react we all knew more..but 190 is already pretty high so maybe you run into the same deadend as i did...talk to your doctor would be the best advice i could give you, but this might be useless...i dont think that a normal PD has any clue about these things, not their fault really, as long as the industrie doesnt react with scientific papers and the pharma industrie with seminars etc they have no chance in hell to know

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                    hoping forgot to say
                    if you read ameisens book, who thanks goodness is an MD and renowend scientist he states something like (somewhere) that baclofen is acting as an AD, it destroyed his lifelong anxiety which was triggering his alcoholosism in the first place and i have a diagnosed anxiety disorder myself, so if bac does help alreay why take another drug, ??? stupid really isnt it? for the shrink its good business selling you a box of AD for 50 bucks rather than one of bac for 10,,pretty clear...

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                      #11
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                      hoping,
                      with every day more i am more convinced that throwing the AD in the bin was the 'switch' it seems that your AD and mine are of the same kind....cant tell you what to do, but i am 1000% certain that it did the trick for me...i had 350, now i take 200 and i am sure i wouldnt even need that much, i just keep it for 2-3 weeks and tham go down, in the long run i reckon i will be cool on around 100

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                        #12
                        cymbalta Baclofen

                        BAC and Zoloft

                        Rudolf, I have been on 100 mg Zoloft off and on for several years for both anxiety and depression. My MD has told me I might need to be on it the rest of my life, which bothers me, because I think the jury is still out on long-term effects of SSRIs since they are still relatively new in their widespread use. I believe that BAC is a safer drug and it has been around for many more years than the ADs.

                        I had already decided to wean myself off of Zoloft when I decided to start on BAC, because I had heard that ADs may work against the BAC. Like you, I am one angry SOB when I am off the Zoloft, which is why I always ended up back on it. I hope that the BAC will be effective in both treating my anger/anxiety/depression and the alcohol problems.

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                          #13
                          cymbalta Baclofen

                          I guess I'll try tapering off the wellbutrin and see what happens. I'm at 190mg of bac now and am ready to throw in the towel. Too many side effects for no return.

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                            Rudolf, the other thing is that I suspect many of us on the board take ADs. I'm going to post a thread about this.

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                              #15
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                              Hoping, I'm taking 150mgs of wellbutrin a day and it doesn't have any affect on my baclofen. Keep at it, it's definitely worth it!
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