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    Binge alcoholism

    Does anyone have any ideas on binge drinking. If a person drinks periodically but binges uncontrollably is there any reason why Baclofen should not work?
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    Olivier Ameisen

    In addiction, suppression of symptoms should suppress the disease altogether since addiction is, as he observed, a "symptom-driven disease". Of all "anticraving medications used in animals, only one - baclofen - has the unique property of suppressing the motivation to consume cocaine, heroin, alcohol, nicotine and d-amphetamine"

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    Binge alcoholism

    Hi Otter,

    Love the name and avatar.

    That is a good question....whether Bac works better on the all day or everyday drinker or the occasional but possibly prolonged binges. I know that this question has been asked previously, but it would take someone like Lo0p to know exactly where that info is located.

    Are you currently taking BAC and what are your patterns?

    Everything I need is within me!

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      #3
      Binge alcoholism

      The binge drinker is almost always "trying" to quit for good. Since the most common cause for relapse is cravings the baclofen should work for the binge drinker. It may take them and their family longer to "trust" the effect because of the sporadic nature of their use. The withdrawal symptoms should be easier however. Many binge drinkers progress to daily drinkers in time. I would reccommend a long use, perhaps a year or so AF for a binge drinker to feel confident. I used to be a binger, then I got to almost daily drinking. The Bac worked perfectly for me, even at fairly low dose. I don't know if the years of relative discipline helped me once the bac kicked in.
      I have heard of no studies comparing bac use in this vs daily drinkers. There are precious few studies at all of bac for alcohol
      good luck
      sunny

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        #4
        Binge alcoholism

        thanks I appreciate this information. My doc will not cooperate and give me Bac. Its a problem.

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          #5
          Binge alcoholism

          ask your doc to refer you to someone who will work with you and prescribe the bac.
          good luck

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            #6
            Binge alcoholism

            Many binge drinkers progress to daily drinkers in time.
            In my case, I was a daily drinker who turned into the binge drinker from hell whle trying to quit.

            What a complex disease.

            Love,
            Cindi
            AF April 9, 2016

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              #7
              Binge alcoholism

              Been a binge drinker since I was 12 and am 46. Never turned into daily and never had to work on keeping it from turning to daily. Always once a week rarely twice. My body will not let me change this pattern unless I quit completely but other than that it just does not change and have never had urges to change. I'm a weird one. lol. P.S. Binges are always one night never 2 days etc. In rehab they told me to try cognitive behavior therapy. Did that. Did not change me much. Nor did 10 years with a therapist. I can't figure it out. And it does not matter what people are doing around me either. Go figure. Frustrating

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                #8
                Binge alcoholism

                I was a binge drinker--horrible, horrible binge drinker. I'd buy a bottle and think that I could control the amount that I'd drink at one time. Next thing I knew, the bottle would be empty, and I'd be thinking of an excuse to get out of the house to buy more.

                I'm currently taking Capral, and it has worked miracles for me so far. Fingers crossed that it continues to work.

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                  #9
                  Binge alcoholism

                  I was a binge drinker, but it did progress into longer and longer binges over the years.

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                    #10
                    Binge alcoholism

                    Is it Capral? or Campral? I have to research that one.

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                      #11
                      Binge alcoholism

                      Hi Otter

                      Sad to hear your in pain.

                      Alcoholism is very much like being pregnant. Either you is or you Ain't. Simple.
                      I complicated the definition of what i was or was or was not till it nearly killed me. Who cares what you call yourself. I you look like one,talk like one chances are you is one.

                      As you know I am on the Bac route. Boy it's not easy to get. You would think that the 'learned one's would have twigged by now, whatever Bac does to me or for me, it's got to be better than THAT CRAP. Will it do me more harm, I don't think so.

                      I started on Bac 4 mths ago. I hav'nt had a drink since. Coincidence ? I don't know,

                      All I will say is that somewhere along the line, stopping drinking, has to start with the willingness to stop. You can't stop till then.

                      Sorry if I sound like I'm having a rant. Just feel so good now.

                      Are you talking about yourself or someone else.

                      If you are, take care of yourself anyway.
                      Today, I will live one day at a time and do one thing at a time

                      It was obvious from a very early age that my mind and I were not going to get on. Kay Redfield Jameson

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                        #12
                        Binge alcoholism

                        Is there really a difference between 'normal' drinking and 'binge' drinking in an alcoholic? I can tell you that before I considered myself an alcoholic, I did not drink regularly, but when I did drink, I would not stop until I passed out. These binges got more and more frequent, until I was drinking basically nightly until blackout. At that point, is it really still binge drinking, or just straight up alcoholism?

                        At any rate, baclofen has worked well for me, but whatever causes the binge drinking is still there. If I pick up a beer now, and I drink more than one, it turns into a full scale binge.

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                          #13
                          Binge alcoholism

                          I believe binge drinking is an alcohol dependent person who is trying very hard to not drink. I, too, went long periods between binges which became more and more frequent until almost daily. I always felt while abstinent that I would eventually "blow" it. I knew from my very first drink that I was at high risk for alcohol dependence and fought it for a long time. Bac has helped me change the very nature of my relationship with alcohol. I no longer fear it. I no longer crave it. I am comfortably abstinent and "moving on". My only reason for staying on these boards is to encourage others.
                          Sunny

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                            #14
                            Binge alcoholism

                            I've always been a binge drinker and think I always will be. I've never progress to 24/7 drinking and and don't think I ever will. I'd drink for a week or few days then stop for a week and so on, same pattern since I was i my teens. I have friends who drink every night and quite a bit who wouldn't say they have a problem but thats they're them and they're happy and can function. I can't fuction, thats the difference. If its annoying you and holding you back then you have a problem. I've never liked the word alcohoic to be honest. To me its always been someone who is dependant. Maybe its being Irish but most I know drink quite heavily and I wouldn't say they're all alcohlics
                            Started TSM 07/12 Pre TSM... 50-100 UK units

                            Drinking under control. Still shooting for abstinence.

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                              #15
                              Binge alcoholism

                              TM,
                              I drank in that same way for about 37 years. Noone except my husband knew I had a problem. And he only knew after about 15 years of marriage! It wasn't until my mid 50s that I started drinking more consistently and Always to excess. I presume that since you are on this site alcohol is giving you some type of trouble. I don't think it really matters what you call it.
                              Welcome!
                              Sunny

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