New here and starting Topa and with a question

[sunshinedaisies]

New here and starting Topa and with a question

Okay - I am here. Feel better today than yesterday -I think. Slept a lot today. I have never called in sick for a cold. EVER. It had to be more than a cold. I don't feel great but am surviving.

Wu - so sorry about your news from your stateside family - that must have been so awful for you. How many children are you talking about? And you are thinking about taking them back to Switzerland with you? What a shock for you. Had you any idea they were all on meth? It seems to be so prevalent over here. What is your next move? Gosh - I don't blame you for being upset.

WTE - yes, the owl book is lovely isn't it? SO much that I didn't know about owls.....

Yes, I agree with that first appt with a therapist although my first appt with Maria was wonderful - we KNEW we clicked from the first word. I will NEVER find anyone else like her. I think I would have been ticked with the appt today..... And I too had someone ask me if i was anorexic too - GAH !!!! Really annoyed me - it was some time ago - but I am not that thin. You are taller than me and weigh less so I can understand where she is coming from but after you had explained it to her why did she have to say that!!!

Your doc is beginning to sound like my doc re calling you back - I really hope they aren't and that he gets back to you.

So happy about charlies groomer and yes, you must let her know how you want things done. I am sure that he looks lovely !!

Diz - LOL - I didn't take "ME" time - I just felt too ill to go into work - trust me I will pay for it !! I have no idea where or how or when but i will - I know it !!

Hope that you feel better soon too..... hugs to you :l:l

Houtx - lovely to see you post - such a shame that you can't join Play, WTE and me in September - it would have been great to meet you too!! But I understand about school. Maybe another time eh?

Anyway - sorry it is a short post - not feeling too wonderful and planning on being in bed shortly. I work the 7.00 shift tomorrrow morning and will be there come hell or high water. Plan on being in bed within the next hour at the latest - love and hugs to you all,

love, Sun XXX

[mama bear]

New here and starting Topa and with a question

feel better Sunni Butt
Hi to everyone else

[sunshinedaisies]

New here and starting Topa and with a question

Thanks jan - love you XX :l

Sun XX

[spacebebe01]

New here and starting Topa and with a question

I hope your feeling better soon Sun you have had a bit of a rough time and maybe your run down thats why its hit you so hard. give yourself lots of TLC.

I am still freaking out a bit over the topa and the eye thing, the thing is tho I think its working in that today again I opened a can of lager and just didnt want to drink it, it also had that bad taste that topa can give it, I do hope it turns out ok for me. Its 4 am what am I doing awake, the last 2 nights I slept around 12 or more hours but then I also drank a lot as well. I wish I could get this sorted, I feel like Im in a right muddle as the moment.

WTE sorry to hear that things arnt going well for you but I do think you may be onto something regarding the nal and that one make looks like its extended release and thats why it didnt work, so it could well be worth you giving it another go and using a different make of nal.

Hi Wu, how are you? its good to have a newby on here and I hope to get to know you better soon.

Hi to Dizzy, Houxt , Play and now I hope I havent forgotten anyone, but it is the middle of the night so please excuse me if I have



xx

[playland]

New here and starting Topa and with a question

Sun, so hope you are better, you are very dedicated to never call in sick, I suppose managers feel the pressure to set the example more.

Space, I'm really happy you are giving the Topa another go, and you are lucky, it works for you right away, please don't stress about the eye thing, and take some melatonin to get to sleep, it really works well.

WTE, i'm laughing at your being irritated at the therapist having a fake picture when you have a fake identity, (please forgive), I just found it funny, but otherwise I hope you find someone that works for you, otherwise Sun and I will be analyzing you during our visit, probably will anyway. I'm like you, I find that if I am home I just seem to sip all day long, the only time I don't do that is when I am at work or with people, so it seems best that I am busy, since I am back from Spain that's all I am doing, sipping all day long until late at night, only working a few days so far, and just drinking right over the Topa.

Houtx, I wish you could join us, perhaps another time, your posts are not disappearing which is great.

Wu, that's awful about your family and the meth thing, I hope things go well.

I'm reading all your posts but seem to be unable to post at length due to just feeling so down and lacking motivation, hopefully my mood will lift pretty soon.

Thinking of Everyone,
Play

[wuthrich8]

New here and starting Topa and with a question

Good morning Everyone!!
You must all think I am absolutely nuts by now!! lol! I did notice yesterday, second day on 75 mg and checking the chart in the book, that this whole time i have been taking the topa wrong by taking it in the morning. Maybe that explains my 1-2 messups every week. (drinking more than 2-3 glasses) And on monday, major messup day, i took too much topa anyway... not really caring. I have to cut my pills, as the 25s never arrived, so for my afternoon dose, i just took the other half, making my dosage 100 mg for the day. Anyhow, i am back on track. All one, supps, and 3 glasses yesterday.

Sun.. I sure hope you are feeling better! Some Summer time flues can really suck all the life out of you. Regarding my family, i wasnt going to bring the kids here, just go over there and prepare myself for when the real s**t hits the fan. Then taking the kids into my care until sister jumps through all of cps's hoops, meaning drug treatment. I tried to get mom to move to Vegas, but she declined as my sis just got a job, first one in like 5 years. Mum also lied to me last night, as on Sunday night, she started to cry, and told me she had to go on AD (celexa 10 mg) and she came clean with this whole story she has known about for the past month. She did a private hair test on my sister after my sister delivered a child and the police came into the hospital and took the baby away, and then they went to the home and took the 18 month old. They gave the kids back 4 days later. Paperwork cited that both parents were drug users. So they are really trying to build a case. Sister kept saying she smoked some pot while pregnant once. Hair test came back with multiple positves for meth while pregnant, and CPS keeps trying to get a hairtest. mum cant take the kids. I am actually the only one in the entire family that can, clean record, etc. But mom told me yesterday not to come. and that sis is doing great, she went to church... um.... she has joined various support groups. When??? I talked to her my sunday night, her sunday at 12:00. I hate being lied to.... lol!! OK... sorry for my big vent! Oh, and yes, i knew. I had no proof. I looked at her when she was four and a half months along, her hair looked dry and dull, there were spots where it had fallen out, the teeth looked like toothpicks, rotting, and she looked anorexic. Her normally glowing skin looked pale and wrinkly. I bought an online hair test and stole her hair from a brush, but you actually need clippings. So, i had no proof. Told mom, and she got so stressed thinking about it that we went on a cruise. lol! oH, So if i were to get the kids, i would need to really not drink at all. Thus the AB, which i am scared of, but if space and dizzy can, then so can I.

Hi Space! I was reading a bit of your thread yesterday..... so glad you are on the topa! I dont have many SEs at all. Dont be scared. I used to get those weird eye headaches before, and i always thought it was due to AL. Glad you are on here, lets beat this thing together!!

Play......Gosh, if we all got together we would be a real crew!! Thats what i do too, its also why I dont leave the house too often. Now i try to get out as much as i can, to avoid sipping all day long. We could put on some Norah Jones... "my heart is drenched in wine" LOL!!!

WTE.... I sooo do worry about you! If i were in Vegas, i would have gotten into my car long ago! OK, i may have brought a bottle of Champagne with, but also some chocolate! LOL! and strawberries!! lol! I have so been where you are.... roaming through the grocery store thinking.... what sounds good? and also come out with cottage cheese! Or, giant artichokes! Just anything but anything to get something into my stomach. I too got really thin when i was only living with my four year old, then my weight goes up with hubby as i have to cook. She is really easy.... happy with mac n cheese, which i dont really like. lol! So where does this weight loss kick in? how many mg? I cant wait!! I have a very beautiful wardrobe of size four clothes that I cant wear at the moment. right now i am a size 6... ggrr!!! Anyway, i hope you hear from your doctor soon!

Ok, hope you are all having, or about to have a wonderful day!! Hugs!!!

[wuthrich8]

New here and starting Topa and with a question

Ok, Given the information I have already given you all, what would you do? Mom tried to tell me not to come, and she tried to tell me that she is ok. She was crying on Sunday night that she feels so alone and that her health is really bad and that she is worried. But then she told me last night that everything is fine and that sis is fine. The house looks like a crack house in the backround on skype. She cant really do that much cleaning. She doesnt drink at all and never has, but still smokes, and breathes very heavy. She is on alot of meds for diabetes, high blood pressure, something for her mini strokes, (she was passing out at my house last year repetitively) and now celexa, and thats just what i know about. Plus i am sure they were smoking that stuff in the house, and she is so naive that she never knew, nor did she believe me. So, as the only friends i can confide in, what would you do? My husband just says, she should cut them off financially, which she will never do, and they were taking her money as she was at my house to the tune of around 1000 dollars a month that she did not approve for their drugs. and then he says, well its her own fault, and of course, he wants me here, but I actually am starting to think about taking the AB either way, as a month of AF sounds nice. And i want my serenity back, and no responsibility of cooking and cleaning to the tune that i have to here. I just want to take my daughter to and from school, clean for my hour of two a day, and done. and search my soul a LITTLE. He doesnt seem to understand that I have great responsibilty in front of me. I cant just stay forever. My father is 73. mom is sick. they have been divorced since i was little. On dads side, i am an only child and he is single. Moms side, well she lives with my meth addicted sis. they both have alot of property holdings. They are spread out from KY to Hawaii. (from both sides) On moms side, i should take care of all of it, till she deems them old enough. But give them an income. And she is still buying my sisters lies. I cant change that, as she doesnt understand that addiction, and how deep it goes. If you get your hands on enough money, you can kill yourself. Ok, please give me your opinions, it would mean the world to me. I think i have answered my own question, but i am under tremendous stress at the moment. I dont want to upset my husband, but always do believe in doing whats right, and for my small daughter, this is whats right. She goes to school over there, and has been talking about going back since we left. I dont live in the same city as this mess, but 8 hours away. I chose that, as my family is a little bit chaotic.

[sunshinedaisies]

New here and starting Topa and with a question

Good morning everyone. I am feeling better again this morning - two days in bed works wonders! Just feel as if I have a cold now as opposed to whatever it was on Monday. A cold I can handle. Thanks for all your kind words.....

Wu - gosh what a problem - the thing is if you came over, how long would you come over for and where would you live? You said your house is 8 hours from your mum and sister. SO, what would be your plan exactly? From what I know, meth addiction really is hard to kick - you being there is not going to make them stop - you can't take the children from them...... I am not quite sure what you would hope to accomplish. Or maybe I am misunderstanding something. I agree with you in that your mum won't cut them off financially - after all, they are her grandchildren. I really am not sure what you can do even if you came over but do understand your wanting to - why not come over for a short holiday just to visit and see for yourself the lie of the land? And go from there?

Play - sorry about how you are feeling - I do understand - trust me I do - LOL. It is such an awful feeling. The celexa has taken the edge off things for me but I certainly don't feel like Little Miss sunshine the way I used to. For that I need the higher dose, which I can't have. I either stick with this or try another AD - and am really not sure i want to go that route. With you, I think that you have so much going on, that it is hard for you to get above it. And I haven't forgotten your e-mail either..... Your life must feel as if it is just all problems right now - but you know that these things are sent to try us right???? And we are only given what we can handle. :l:h

Space - glad to see you posting a bit more - you are sounding a little better actually. I agree with you that whatever it was that I got could be 'cos I was run down - I wondered that myself. Fancy being up at 4.00 - I was too - we could have chatted - LOL. I was letting Miss Katie out!! As for being in a muddle and wanting to get things sorted - it is early days again with the Topa - so give it a chance to settle down. It will all straighten up eventually.

WTE - hi there - hope the doc calls back today for you. It is such a pain waiting for them to call back.

I need to get ready for work - hugs to all,

love, sun XX

[WaitingToExhale]

New here and starting Topa and with a question

Hi all ?

Space: I too am glad to hear you decided to try the Topa again. It DOES sound like it may be working well for you. Now you just need to sort out the sleeping thing ? that is the worst! I normally sleep the sleep of the dead ? always have since I was a kid. So when the Celexa started messing with it I was really crabby about it.

Just take it slow and ?listen? for the little nudges it gives you.

Play: HA! I guess that is kind of ironic that I am lying to my DR and she is posting fake pictures. LOL Actually, SHE does have my real name. I figured I could never get through hour sessions without screwing that part up! But I pay her cash, she has no clue WHO my insurance company is and did not even ask who my DR was ? and I wasn?t going to tell her. And I suspect we all be analyzing each other when you and Sun are here! HA! Group therapy at its finest!

Yep, being busy is the trick. I did a bit better yesterday because I was forced to be in the shop most of the day. I REALLY think when we drink like that it adds to the depression. I hope you find a way out of your funk. Do you exercise at all? I?m a really crappy gym rat as it just bores me to death, but at least Charlie keeps me a bit on the move. But I know I feel much better when I have been more active. Is there some type of activity you could find that may keep you occupied a bit and get those endorphins going?

WU: Wow. What a mess! And what a load to have your plate! Meth is REALLY bad here and in fact I live in one of the worst areas of the country for it. I?ve too have seen what it can do to people and I have yet to see anyone actually kick it for good.

I dated a guy for almost 5 years. His twin sister worked for me for about the same time. Then she started being ?odd? and it was finally my staff that pulled me aside and said ?Don?t you see what?s going on?? I had no clue what the signs were at the time. I had to fire her which was really awkward because I was dating her brother. But it wasn?t long after that I started noticing some of the same things in him. *sigh* Talk about a red flag I had not seen ? before I met him had all his teeth pulled and all implants ? pretty weird for a guy in his early 40s. But I had no clue what meth does to people?s teeth. He denied everything over and over again and then one day I came home to a straw with white powder on it in my kitchen. ?Buddy? stopped over for a beer and asked me about it ? told him I had suspect, but I really didn?t know. He tasted it and yep ? it was Meth. I confronted him and again he denied saying it came from his brother overalls he had borrowed. I put my foot down and demanded a drug test or we were done. I remember the conversation on my driveway like yesterday ? he just hung his head and wouldn?t answer. I said ?Then that gives me my answer? and I walked into the house. He drove off and that was the last time I saw him. That was about 7 years ago and I hear through the grapevine that he is NOT doing well at all. It must be an incredible drug to stop forever.

I hope your sister makes it through it and perhaps can catch it all in time and get the help she needs. And I don?t blame you for being upset with your Mother lying to you ? I am the same way. I hope you can work with the AB and are able to be there to help them. You?re brave but we need to do what we need to do. Right?

I suppose in your shoe, I would go. If you don?t, and things continue to get worse, you will never forgive yourself for not at least trying. That?s just my 2 cents. It sounds like your Mom needs some real help (and eye opening) about right now. You can?t force her to do anything, but you can perhaps coach her and educate her a bit about what is really going on so she can make better choices.br />
As for Topa and weight loss ? I have read it is an SE in about 16% of people. So many do not experience it like I did. Houtx was on Topa wishing the same thing and never lost any weight. So don?t totally count on it happening. A size 6??? You are already small! HA!

Sun: So glad you are feeling better! Summer colds are the worst and we had this nasty little 2 day flu thing going around a few months ago that many at the shop got. Awful!

Houtx: Please don?t take this the wrong way. You know I adore you! But ? the other night you said that you were bad ?but not that bad?. Of course both of us were drinking wine while on the phone. But then you post ?I suck at life?. We are in the same ugly spot. Knowing we should drink less ? not being able to control it. I wish you would try SOMETHING. We both know in our hearts that we are high functioning problem drinkers ? but then we have theses regret moments. I know SO WELL how you feel ? what can I do to help? Maybe you should try another shot at Topa? (I know I sound like a broken record ? but it was working for me so well!) I wish you could make it here Sept 4th somehow ? even for a couple of days! I promise to not beat you up. HA! HA! I just REALLY want to meet you after all the years and crap we have been through together!

**********

So I FINALLY heard from my DRs Assistant yesterday! It seems she never got my phone message and explained they had a ?new service?. But THANKFULLY I had faxed over all of my daily notes on what was happening, along with a re-cap to them last Sat. I put on it that I suspected I would have ?issue? with any AD because I am still drinking too much.

So she gave it to the DR and he said to stop the Celexa right away (which she knew I had) and we will give Wellbutrin a try. Hummm. She said I was to take it twice a day and she called the script in. It will be about $40.00 but who cares at this point. I haven?t picked it up yet ? will do that this morning so I have no idea what dosage he is recommending. I think I am just going to start really slow with it. An SE of Wellbutrin is loss of appetite. Great.

Does anyone here have experience with Wellbutrin? After the Celexa I am honestly a bit scared of taking anything!

I?ve decided to go back to the therapist next Monday. I called and suggested that I write down some history stuff and fax it to her so we are not spending all of our time with her trying to understand my history. She agreed. And I figure I will even offer to pay for her time to read it all if necessary. I think she will be better able to pulls out ?bullets? that we should be talking about and that perhaps got me into this mess - and perhaps confer with more experienced college in the office (?). Worth a shot as at this point as I am feeling pretty helpless otherwise.

I think I may have put a few pounds back on. Although I didn?t do too well yesterday with eating. I swear Topa simply changes my metabolism and it?s not just the appetite loss. I?m trying to keep all kinds of snacks sitting around and on my desk at work. I?ll have to try the dark chocolate. =)

So I had a pretty productive day at the shop yesterday and will be heading in again soon here. The staff was happy to see me back and we got a few things back on track. Working is the best thing I can do for myself right now, but damn, it?s hard to get going in the mornings for some reason. Getting showered and dressed seems like SUCH an effort! I?m thinking about chopping my hair really short again just so I don?t have to mess with it. Bad.

And the third ?bee person? came out yesterday. They were here while I was gone but left a note that they were unable to find ?the nest?. Bummer. They are not aggressive yellow jackets (the African kind) and the honey bees are no problem. But I KNOW from experience that if Charlie or I were to step on their hive ? all hell would break lose.

A few years ago I was walking the hills with my last Golden and a neighbor?s dog joined us. We are totally ?off leash? legal up here. And she must have stepped on a hive and all of a sudden there were yellow jackets all over her! I was swatting and yelling for Chance (my dog then) and we all were running from the area. I don?t know how many times she was stung ? I guess not really many. But I took her home and told the owners what had happened in case they wanted to take her in for a shot or give her some Benadryl. But it was spooky!

I guess if 3 professional people walking my property can?t find the nest ? it must be up in the hills and so is not a danger. And the good news I heard from one guy is that by the end of September they will be gone. And I?m watering the new lawns less now so there seems to be a bit fewer of them hanging around.

The gophers seem to also be a BIT more under control. I?ve started putting Charlie?s hair when I brush him around the areas of the lawn that the dang rabbits are eating. LOL Not sure if it?s working or not. Now if I can just keep Charlie out of my flower bed! He has discovered that it?s nice cool soil with the new irrigation and just loves to dig a hole and lay in in. So much for him being clean! HA! I may have to resort to putting down some wire right under the soil so he won?t dig there. I clean up the mess and he goes back and does it again. Little stinker! He LOOKS guilty and knows he should not be doing it ? but I don?t have the heart to correct him as he is SO sensitive after his years of abuse. So much for the new kangaroo paw that was doing so well before?.

Off to dress for the shop and pick up my Wellbutrin. UGH. I hope I don?t feel ?flat? on this stuff again. We shall see ?.

WTE & Charlie

PS: Sun and Play ? do you like to kayak? I have a coupon for 2 hours free for 2 people that I won at a charity auction to kayak the La Jolla Caves. Google it! I think you guys would get a kick out of it! Not really dark caves at all ? but very cool.


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[DizzyBee]

New here and starting Topa and with a question

Hi all

I'm feeling a bit better after 3 days AF. Had a bit of a meltdown last night, just felt SO depressed but woke up as cheery as a jackrabbit this morning.

Bf went to the pub but in a way I appreciated it because I get so clausterphobic in here at times at night, esp when not drinking. When he came back he listened to me sobbing and said he promised to cut down if its having such a hard knock on my emotional state. Then he brought me soup and toast in bed and read me a chapter of my favourite book to cheer me up.

Unfortunately I cant stay and comment on everyone's posts as I now have to catch up on my work but I will pop in again tomorrow for a more proper post.

What a cute pic, WTE. I suggest you try this link:

ANTIDEPRESSANTS: side effects and patient ratings for prescription drugs

I tried Wellbutrin but it wasn't for me but then Celexa was so I think you need a wider selection of people to give you their opinion. Just note there are one or two crazies on that forum but most of them give proper feedback. Wellbutrin does work well and it has a reputation for reducing cigarette and alcohol cravings. It started off as a cigarette cessation drug but I'm surprised your doc suggested that because it does give people energy and it made me feel a bit nervous. Then again, judging by the ratings and the fact that it could help you with your vices, I'd say you could give it a go for a week or two?

Sun, I know it wasn't me time but as you said you never took time off I thought I'd call it that anyway.

Here is a pic I took of Windsor Castle from about 2km away with my awesome new zoom lens



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[wuthrich8]

New here and starting Topa and with a question

Ok, OMG, this pic brought me to tears, since ive been been doing research about these monarchieses.

ok, big topa dopa momement!!!

[WaitingToExhale]

New here and starting Topa and with a question

Oh this just keeps getting better …..

DIZ! THANK YOU for that link!

So I go to pick up my script. First, it’s the generic of Wellbutrin. OK. But then I start reading again.

What I got was Bupropion Hydrochloide XL = extended release 150MG. So she had told me on the phone yesterday that I was to take it TWICE a day and that’s also what it says on my bottle.

HOWEVER! If you look it up, the XL is 24 hour life and should be taken ONCE per day. It is the SR (slow release) that is taken twice a day. Oh, and it was also charged twice the price - $73.99 for 60 tablets.

So I call the pharmacy ….

Speak with 2 different pharmacists and after they look it up, they think it may be an error too! Great. So they are calling my DR after the 200 PM lunch break thing to double check this out. UGH.

I’m not touching this stuff without some real answers! I swear – what would we do without the Internet?! I hate DRs!

Also in reading this morning, I have found many people that were on the true Wellbutrin with success for years. Due to cost or insurance they changed to the generic. And there were many who said it was VERY different.

Because my DR thinks I have no insurance, he is trying to stay as cost effective as possible for me. But I need to find out if it’s really that big of a difference because the “true” Wellbutrin has much better reviews.

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Oh crap! I just got off the phone with the pharmacy and WITHOUT insurance, to get 60 tabs (twice a day) of the true Wellbutrin is $500 at Target!!!! WTH???? That is insane! My goodness our medical system is messed up here! Grrrrr.

OK – Rant over. LOL Hope to have some answers after 200 PM. Needless to say – I have not made it into the shop again. *sigh*

Another interesting side note from the link Diz sent me: There is a drug that is a combo of Wellbutrin (generic I think) and Nal! Whoa!


PS: Lovely picture of the castle! I need to get back to London as I have family there and in Devon! I miss it! And LOL WU!

[Imagine]

New here and starting Topa and with a question

Hey everybody. Sunshinedaisies told me about this thread. I am pretty much brand new to the site and just started topo on Saturday. I have not read any posts on this thread yet, but I am about to!
I just wanted to say a quick "hello" and introduce myself, and give a thanks to Sunshinedaisies for the message.
Now I shall read on and learn all about you. I'm excited!
HELLO ALL!
~Imagine
PS. I had some beer last night and it tasted as flat at the tire in my next door neighbors front yard!

[DizzyBee]

New here and starting Topa and with a question

:welcome: Imagine, I hope you settle in and enjoy your time with us.

Wu, you are so sweet

WTE, your doctor must be confused. 150 is the starting dose, if you take another one of those extended versions at lunch time after you told him you had problems not sleeping... Keep reading what the other people on that site has to say about it, I bet most of them started on 150 XL is fine and if it gives you sleeping problems you can ask to start with just 150mg normal. If it works for you and the doctor keeps messing you about, you know where to find the online pharmacies

Its a good drug, I really hoped it would work for me, and I am crossing my fingers it will work for you. But slowly does it, I wouldnt say more than 150XL, even if its just for 3 days as a test to see what response you have to it. Good luck. :l

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[sunshinedaisies]

New here and starting Topa and with a question

Hey everyone - I have a cold !!!! I feel great! Whatever it was I had on Monday was NOT a cold - I feel good now - apart from my cold. My boss didn't even ask how I was feeling today but that is fine - I knew I would pay for it - LOL. Everyone else did - they were amazed that I had called in.

Anyway - Imagine - Welcome!! love your sense of humour! yes, the Topa will do that to anything in a can - it works better if you drink beer..... and it worked on my soda too. It cut down the amount of soda that I drank as well. It is something to do with anything in aluminium cans. Although as I drink Guinness, it hasn't actually stopped me - but it could if I let it. It did once - for 8 months - but that is a long story. Anyway - welcome to our thread - we are a good bunch here and if you care to share we are all ears. Lots of support and also lots of info between us. Just feel free to jump in any time !!

WTE - sounds like your Doc is a tad confused! Hopefully you will get it sorted - don't blame you for not wanting to touch the tabs yet! And yes - that link that Diz gave you in wonderful - I have bookmarked it for future reference.

Diz - that is such a wonderful pic - the camera must be really good - it is like a 3D pic! So sorry you were feeling down last night but great that you woke up feeling good! B'F sounds so supportive of you.....

WTE - I think I must have had that 2 day flu - 'cos I felt so different this morning compared to the last two days - thank goodness!!

And Houtx - I agree with WTE - can you not go back on the Topa? And it really would be wonderful if you could make it to WTE's for the 4th september - even if just for a day or 2.

WTE - I am amazed that the weight loss thing only happens in 16% of folk - those that don't want it to maybe?? LOL I didn't need it to - I read back to the beginning of this thread - can't remember now how much weight I lost but think it was about 15lbs! I didn't need to lose it either - was happy where I was..... And yes Wu - a size 6 IS small already! You do not need to lose any weight! I am having trouble finding clothes to fit me now - my 4's are a tad big and it is hard trying to find 2's so I am just putting up with 4's that are a tad big. I need to gain some weight !! Any 2's I can find cut me up the middle - LOL TMI I would rather be a 4!!!

Have to laugh at your saying about chopping your hair really short so you don't have to mess with it. When I had chemo and was bald and my hair started growing out - I LOVED it !!! But then when it got to a certain length, I had to have something done with it every two weeks. I couldn't keep it at the length I liked. I love the Judi Dench look but my daughter (who is a cosmetologist) told me my hair wouldn't go like that. I loved that look. The only thing I could do would be to buzz cut it and start all over again - LOL. So I finally gave up as it was too much work - so I grew it out again and now have very long hair again which I scrag back into a pony tail every day!! So to me, having it cut short is more like hard work.

So sorry the bee people didn't find any nests - maybe I can find them for you - hope I don't - LOL. But what a pain though. I am so looking forward to my visit!! Loved the picture of Charlie in the dirt! And as for Kayaking - I have never done it but am always willing to try anything once - do you need to have done it to do it? I am always willing to give things a go like that - sounds fun !!!! As long as it isn't in teeny tiny caves - I would not like that - not saying I am claustrophobic but I don't like teeny tiny caves.

Love and hugs,

sun XXXX