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[houtx]

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Hey all - still here and still thinking about the use of AB. UGH - scares me!! So yes, I am still on the fence, and still over-drinking. I really really really want to lose 10 - 15 lbs so am keeping a log of what I consume. HELLO!!! AL is 1/2 my daily intake of calories.

But of course, in relation to that, am concerned about my health!! Anyway - taking AB just scares me. I know myself and think maybe I'd go a few days just scared of the violent reaction, then stop because I want to be able to drink.

I dunno - beat me up all you want to. Using AB just scares me!! I'll continue thinking about it, but right now I am "Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh - no thx!!"

Quick post here - sounds like alls pretty much ok w/ everyone. Hope so - I am about to mass murder my whole cluster-fuck of kids. They are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO bad -

That's all - XXXOOO

[StuckinLA]

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Houtx:

Hi Houtx. I'm empathizing here with your reluctance to take the AB. I could never do it. That's just me though.

I deleted my post because it was drunken and ridiculous. What I saved, for no real reason, is:

Hi everyone. Love you all.

Space. 3 months. I know you don't want any credit for it because you haven't felt like drinking. But in other circles it's a big goddamned deal. And in my book it's a big damned deal. 90 days. In some places they give you a chip for that. ;

All my love to you, sweetie, really. Keep it up. :l

And I would like to say that I mean it for everyone, too. Everybody out there. You're all fighting damned hard right now, and you should have some support. We're here, if you're looking for support. If not, then f*ck you, bitches!

[StuckinLA]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeaGXjD_iDY[/video]]Archers "Bloody Mary prayer" - YouTube

[bugpieper]

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Day 4 on Topa

Still no change in my cravings but can definately feel the side effect of the Topa Dopa, especially in the evening , but will prevail!!! I have noticed that i am not getting the same buzz from the voka/sevenup drinks, that's kind of cool. My husband doesn't think i'm drunk an least and i do feel more relaxed though. so, going forward ho!!!!!thanks for the input, i look forward to reading your replies and support!!! Love Bugpieper

[sunshinedaisies]

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Hi Bug - it really is early days - if you do feel any SE's, stay on the 25mg a bit longer, even if you don't feel the cravings going. It took a long time to get to this point so what is a few more weeks? You can also try changing the time of your dosage which might help. Whatever you do, don't rush it - with topa, you go backwards when you rush it !!

Hi there Houtx and stuck. Good to see you both. I always swore I could never ever take AB - yet here I am. And Houtx - you can drink after a few days so it isn't as if it is a life sentence !! Just never drink on it !! We only take the one half a tab on a Monday so we can have a drink by the saturday quite safely. Think about it eh?

Hi there stuck - hope you are feeling better as you probably weren't.

Got to go - hugs to all, sun XX

[playland]

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E-Gads, I was just reading around a bit on other threads on General Discussion, the ones about AB and OMG, I didn't know how nasty some people are being to others, regarding : AB is a crutch, you should just stop without medication and : Once you start AB you are damned if you ever stop for a bit of a holiday ( that would be abusing Antabuse :H:H:H)

Oh my, people can be so ridiculous, I'm glad I never post anywhere else, our thread is my SAFE HAVEN:h

Love and love the AB 5/7 Plan:H

[sunshinedaisies]

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Oh Play - I SO agree !! I read that thread too - if she has found her way out, then so be it. It is what she has chosen! I too don't post anywhere else (much) these days - except the killer thread (LOL) sometimes......

Hugs, sun XX

[houtx]

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Thx for the pep talk, all!! Today & tonight I am again seriously considering using AB. Will go into details later - but I am just needing to modify and am not doing well on will-power alone.

Stuck - you crack me up at your light-hearted reflections on your life. Keep it up, dear man! I love your funny, real posts. But know you struggle - do what is right for you & hang in there! Me too!

Space, Jay-J, Bug, Play, Sun - Everyone...I love your posts and applaud your successes, frustrations, aw dat!!

So therapeutic coming here!!
XO

[meggie]

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houtx, I to am having a difficult time moderating. Just pick a day and quit, easier said then done. AB as a crutch, I doubt it. I will take any crutches I could get. I think whatever works is great.

[DizzyBee]

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Hi all

Just a quick check in as I have a cold and a deadline - not a good combination! I just want to finish with this damn computer so I can get back into bed. Its starting to get cold here as well so its nice to snuggle in bed for once after the long hot Summer.

Grrr, I have a huge bugbear with the sanctimonious sober ones out there that look down on those of us who use meds to help us. Can't they just be happy that we are being sober instead of wanting to make us feel small. I remember mentioning on another thread that I was 50 days sober with the help of Topa and Antabuse and instead of being congratulated I was berated as 'being sober on meds wasnt really being sober' Well 10 days later I was back to drinking and I never went back to that thread. I need Topa for my depression and if its Antabuse I need to stay sober I'd rather take that than drink. I wish people like that would rather just keep their opinions to themselves, nothing IS ever good enough, is it? Next, we will be sober without Antabuse and then they will be wanting us to stop using deodorant, stop driving cars, become vegans.... :durn:

Bug, its a very good sign if you are not getting the same buzz already after only two days. When I'm on the right dose of Topa it makes alcohol not really pleasant, I can drink it but it just makes me sleepy, a bit like as if I was drinking cough medicine and who would want to do that? I wish your husband would be more supportive. What would he rather have you do?

Sun, the detox soup is actually just the Cabbage diet soup (you can find it online) but I don't just eat it, I eat it whenever I feel like it as I like the taste. To make it more hearty you can add veggie bacon and lentils.

Houtx, I will never force you to do anything, last time I just thought perhaps a stern word will help you pop out of limbo. I sometimes take as long as 3 months to start a 'sober stint' and once I'm there I just wonder what the fuss was about. This time it took a stern talking from my brother and Sunday will be my day 30... perhaps also the last AF day but I'm proud of every day I did.

If I was you, I would just go ahead and order the Antabuse, its not that expensive and it will take a few weeks to reach you anyway. Then if one day you feel again like you did last night, you can just pop one and you will have five days sober. All you need is a moment of clarity to take the pill and the rest is history.

Play was very worried about it and now she can't be happier. So much of it is in our minds. If God intended for us to HAVE to drink every day, surely he would have attached a flask organ to our hips It is possible to do every possible human function 24 hours of the day for five days without drinking, I promise. And the self esteem, clear head, and weight loss are extremely good 'side effects.' :

OK, I won't say another word about it, unless you ask.

Hi to everyone else, have to run unfortunately. No word from visa still.

:l

[spacebebe01]

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What thread was that? mind you do I want to know, theres no way I could be bothered reading through the threads on general to find it but now youve got me wondering

[DizzyBee]

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Hi all

I haven't seen that thread.

I had problems posting this last night - anyone else see the 'MWO database problem' page?

Read an interesting article on how 95 percent of the body's serotonin is found in the bowels and how some people say probiotics can serve as antidepressants. Thoughts anyone?

Think Twice: How the Gut's "Second Brain" Influences Mood and Well-Being: Scientific American

XOX

[sunshinedaisies]

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Hi everyone - home from work and playing around on the computer. There is once again a problem with the site in that it won't let you view the last posted post but if you go to the actual thread, you can see it !!

Space - if you go to Our Community and look for any posts with Antabuse in the title you will see them - there are actually two, but they really aren't worth reading - trust me.

Dizzy - sorry you have a cold - probably all the stress you are under. Although I am not under stress and my toothache has turned into an earache AND a toothache now - heaven help me - and I am flying in a week!!! No way will I be able to get in to see my doc before then either.

I so agree with those who are not happy with those who are not doing things 'their' way. I am so happy we are here on our safe thread away from all of that. I think they would freak if they knew what Play and I were doing !!!

I remember seeing the cabbage soup diet and LOVING that cabbage soup - not for a diet - just 'cos I love cabbage soup!

I agree with Dizzy Houtx - why not go ahead and order the AB then if you decide, in a lucid moment to pop HALF a pill, you can! You can drink five days later so it isn't a life sentence !! At least get it and have it in your possession. The first time I took it, I was TERRIFIED. But after you have it in you, it takes ALL thoughts of AL out of the equation - and the brain does a turn around. Or mine did and so does play's. The first week, I literally waited for saturday, but the next time I changed my attitude and it was wonderful. NO-ONE is trying to push you into anything but you obviously are not getting anywhere with anything you are doing now and keep saying you want to - well, here is your answer!

Meggie - why do you say that you doubt that AB is a crutch? Or was I misunderstanding? Have you thought about it? I laughed when you said that you were told to pick a quit day - yeah - right !!!! Keep checking in with us. Did you get my PM ?

Off to do stuff..... Hugs to all,

love, Sun XX


Hi all - had written this the other day before the meltdown and copied and saved it so am posting it now.

Dizzy - I will check that article out. I would be amazed if that would solve the problems of depression. Surely the medical community would have found it before now??? Anyway I am going to go and read the article - wouldn't it be wonderful if depression could be solved by probiotics ?

Hugs, sun XXX

[meggie]

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Yes, I did get your message. I have several Dywer books, but I don't think I have that one. Presently I am reading The Purpose Driven Life. My counselor suggested, the book, Living Sober. I have irritable bowel and take probiotics and it hasn't helped me. Oh, well.
If AB helps you cut down or quit then I don't think it is a crutch. It is a miracle.

[DizzyBee]

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Hi Meggie, try to read the article, its long winded and sciency but the best bit is at the end. Sun, I oversimplified with my probiotics statement as I read (for the first time) in 2 places about how probiotics can help depression. This article was the source material for one 4 in 1 probiotic that claims it can help. But it makes one think, if 95 percent of serotonin is in our gut, we have 'gut feelings,' anxiety gives us tummy butterflies or cramps, it is true. On the other hand then surely there must be a connection between what we eat, gut health, serottonin levels and mood?

XOX