New here and starting Topa and with a question

[meggie]

New here and starting Topa and with a question

What kind of juicer did you buy? I am interested, as stated before the Clean diet, and I will need to get some sort of juicer. I wish I could do the AB, you make it sound so easy. If I do it will be in the summer.

[playland]

New here and starting Topa and with a question

Hi Meggie,
I bought a Breville Juice Fountain Plus, I did some research and today I'll use it for the first time and let you know how it goes. I have to go get a bunch of organic stuff first off today

Yes, I think the biggest thing about the AB is the fear of doing it. And of course once you take it you cannot drink for fear of the bad side effects which you can look up. But Sun and I are taking 1/2 of the standard 200 (Ithink) pill and it lasts for about 5 days and if you didn't take another one then you can have a few days off to enjoy some social drinking and then take the AB again.

I have to say that I have normally such awful craving that I have never been able to even go a night with a drink, but I was so amazed, once I take that pill, my mind almost sighs with relief and I do have some slight feelings of wanting a drink when in situations where it is a habit to drink, well, those thoughts only last a few seconds, I just think of something else and they are no bother at all.

I wish I had known about this so long ago, I tried the Topa, with some success but it basically kind of stopped working and I couldn't take it and also continue my line of work because I made too many mistakes.

I think I have found my niche with the AB and there are no side effects at all and I ordered it from River so didn't have to get an RX.

See you later.

[bugpieper]

New here and starting Topa and with a question

1st day on topa

well i am starting topa today, my doctor doesn't believe in it. he thinks it wont have any affect. i hope he's wrong.

[sunshinedaisies]

New here and starting Topa and with a question

Welcome Bug - if you have any questions, please feel free to ask. There is lots of knowledge between us all regarding Topa. Are you going by the titration schedule in the book? Starting off at 25mg a day for the first week? keep us informed and ask away if you want to!

sun

[playland]

New here and starting Topa and with a question

Another Welcome Bug,
Well you will prove your doctor wrong:goodjob because yes, Topa certainly can have a dramatic effect. I actually loved it but I stopped taking it due to work where I need to really be on top of things and along with the Topa comes some vague forgetfulness, we call it Topa Dopa, it's nothing if you aren't in a position of having to be super sharp, but then some people don't even have that SE, other SE are mild, so go for it.

I would suggest reading back in the thread quite a long way because there is so much Topa information there.

See you soon.
Play

[Jay-J]

New here and starting Topa and with a question

Hi Bug!

Welcome! We'll prove your Doctor wrong! I too had misgivings about doctors. And I still do. The good people here are better and more informed Look at my older posts. Well, I'm on my fifth week of Topa. And second week at 100mg. And I'm doing great! 28 days AF. For the past 10 days 0% craving.

I think I'm going to stick to 100mg. This seems like the right dose for me. With the supplements recommended in the MWO book, there have been no SEs except in the beginning with insomnia. But I fixed that by taking the Topa earlier. Now at 100mg. I can sleep like a log even without Melatonin.

So good luck and I hope it helps you as much as it has helped and is helping me!

All the best!

[DizzyBee]

New here and starting Topa and with a question

Hi all

Glad to see things picked up a bit around here. I do actually find it easy to use the Antabuse and once you get used to doing 5 days it is easy to then just keep going and once you're on a roll you keep collecting days and keep feeling stronger. Well I did until about day 20, now it just feels like I'm hanging on until day 30 as that's my goal. That's what usually happens to me although I once hung on until day 60.

I mean I feel happier and stronger and I rationally know this is better for me but I'm so damn bored. Because I've been away so long a lot of my friends have moved on with their lives and many of them are married with kids anyway and I don't blame them because when I'm with my bf we mostly socialise together. I know I'm doing this for my health and to lose weight but I can feel that feeling of discontent starting to push up. Its wrong I know, I should be keeping busy and changing my life rather but its really hard if I don't know where I'm going next and when and when I have so much time on my hands.

It was our two year anniversary on Sunday so I was a bit sad as well and its bf's birthday on the 21st so I'm really hoping I can be there by then. I really hope to hear from them this week as I can't stand this limbo any longer. And before anyone ask NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY BACKUP PLANS AS OF YET, LOL. I first want to hear what they say about the appeal.

Happy that you're back LJ.

I agree with Play, Stuck, I don't find getting stoned fun anymore. I used to at college but now it just makes me paranoid and then sleepy. Its probably a blessing in disguise because with my brain chemistry I could probably do a lot of damage if I smoke on a regular basis. My one ex (10 years ago) is now living in a tent outside a backbackers as he doesn't trust the government to renew his Identification document. True story...but somehow I don't think you have the dedication to become a true stoner anyway.

The juice fast sounds good Play. Fruit is really cheap in SA but in the UK its a whole different story. Also, I can do veggie juices but not fruit juices at the moment as the effect is too strong on my blood sugar. Whole fruit is allowed though because it has all the fiber etc. I'm sure it will be great for you though.

I did make a detox soup that I'm having for lunch everyday instead of my usual sandwich and so far I'm enjoying it. Well, it will only last a week, so I won't have time to get sick of it anyway.

:welcome: Bug, your doctor has no right to say that Topa won't work. It work/worked for a lot of us and I bet he/she didn't try it themselves! I'm still on Topa so feel free to ask me any questions but the others are right, you should read back a bit to get some background information. I know the thread is long but its actually quite interesting

So glad things are going so well for you Jay-J, you mustn't be so scarce! You're our current success story after all. Well so am I but I've had my ups and downs and you're still bright eyed and bushy tailed. I find it fascinating that it works for you on a low dose with no SE's - you are really lucky. It's like you have all the positives without the negatives. Well I have all the positives too but if I take 100mg I wouldn't sleep again in a week's time as it makes me hyper.

Hugs to all,

:l

[spacebebe01]

New here and starting Topa and with a question

Just a quick pop in to say I am glad you are all doing so well. Nothings chganged much here.

I am still AF tho, thats over 3 months now and still dont really even think about it, it is like a switch has been turned off in my brain that made me need to drink and now its off I dont anymore. I hope it stays like this.

Love to you all xx

[sunshinedaisies]

New here and starting Topa and with a question

Good Morning everyone!

Lovely to see you here again properly Play - I know you have been up to your eyes though with work and your course - plus your cold - poor you !!

I so agree with you regarding the AB - if I don't take it, there is no way I wouldn't drink - yet once I have taken that pill, I KNOW I can't - and have hardly any cravings at all - nothing worth talking about anyway. It is quite amazing. The first few days are really easy - then I start to fancy a drink so by the time I DO want one, I know I can have one - it really does work. Lots of folk would say we are doing it wrong but it works for us which is the main thing. And like Dizzy says - maybe we might keep taking it one week - but after my visit - LOL.

Play - how goes it with the juicer? I am hoping that you feel better soon. There are so many yummy drinks you can make with a juicer!

Hi there Jay - I am SO happy for you that the Topa is working and with no SE's. As Dizzy says, you need to post more as you are a success story!! I think is is wonderful that it is working for you - I remember when it did for me and it was quite amazing! Unfortunately I had to go up to 300mg and that gave me terrible depression. Good for you on playing with when you took your dosage - I had to do that too and eventually you will find you can take it anytime and it will be fine. well, I did anyway!! :H

Dizzy - you sound so frustrated and I can't say I blame you. Hang in there girl - things will work out. good for you with the AB - one thing I did hear though was that the longer you take it the longer you have to wait for it to get out of your system before you can drink, so do be careful won't you?

What is in your detox soup? I love soup and often will make a big pot and then have it for days. My AF days dinner seems to be chips (french fries), peas and an egg. it is quick, easy and I do it the minute I get in from work. I had it every day last week !! LOL

I only have tried pot once and it didn't agree with me. Never again. I didn't like the feeling of my mind not being mine - which was how it felt - and it was a totally different feeling to the AL buzz.

Meggie - Thanks for the links, I will check them out - but actually have a whole slew of meditation stuff that I do/use - I just need to DO it !! Why do you need to wait for the summer to do the AB? And yes, it sounds easy 'cos it is easy. I was scared silly of it before i took it but it really is fine - as I said, I have no cravings at all the first few days and by the time I might fancy a drink, I can have one ! No SE's at all as long as you don't try and drink on it.

Space - please pop in and say hi - you don't need to tell us how you are doing even - just pop in and say hi - okay? I so wish the docs could find a balance of your meds for you.

Houtx - where are you too? You can copy and paste now so you should be here letting us know how you are doing..... no fears of losing your post is there?

Hi there Stuck - Hope all is going better for you..... you do seem to be having a slight problem at the moment don't you? Have you had a think and tried to see where all this is going? Using pot isn't going to work on a long term basis, so what is your plan? Or do you not have one yet? let us know won't you?

I need to get ready for work...... tooth still hurting a little from my sinus infection - it is over a week now since I have had the toothache and it is driving me insane! At least it isn't all the time now - just now and then.

Hugs to all, Sun XX

[sunshinedaisies]

New here and starting Topa and with a question

Cross post space - you must have heard me - LOL. good to see you here anyway - 3 months - that is amazing - I am really happy for you in that respect - just wish we could sort you out to cheer you up now !! Hugs to you :l:l

love, sun XX

[meggie]

New here and starting Topa and with a question

Ok, just posted and lost it. I have started with an alcohol counselor, she says pick a day and quit. I looked at her and said easier said then done. I have quit before, once for a year, andthen for 7 months. I always felt I could quit again, I don't have a problem.
I drink as a reward for getting through the day, I wind down and relax with a drink. I can hold off to 11 or midnight but still need it to wind down and sleep. What do you all do to replace that drink at that needed time. Also, what was the worse was the lack of sleep.
I don't want to do AB until summer because I have summers off and if I am going to be off that is the best time.
Anyone have any good results with Campral?

[bugpieper]

New here and starting Topa and with a question

topa day 2

well i started the topa 25mg yesterday and did my usual drinking.. well maybe not usual, two vodka sevenups and that was about enough....that and my husbands ugly remarks....does the topa build up in your system? or will i not feel any change untiil i up it to the 50 mg? someone let me know. thanks bugpieper

[spacebebe01]

New here and starting Topa and with a question

I have to be quick as dinner is cooking but bug from what I can remember topa doesnt build up in your system but it takes time for your body to get used to it. You have to take it slowley or it just wont work if you try to rush it, but if you are patient it can be wonderful. Sorry to hear about your husbands remork you could probably do without that.

Good luck

[playland]

New here and starting Topa and with a question

Hi Bug, I felt the effects of Topa at 25 mg on the third day, suddenly I lost the urge to drink and my appetite went down. I did go up to 25 AM and PM and maybe even to 25 50, can't quite remember. Be sure to just take it slow and let it do its thing and stay at the lowest dose possible to give yourself room if you need to increase. Not everyone feels it so quickly but you will definitely know it. I loved Topa and would have taken it forever except for the slight dopa effect which made me make mistakes at work

But now Sun, Dizz and I all have AB and it is the easiest of all the medications, no side effect unless you drink on it but we take one tablet and go AF for about 5 days and then have the weekend to have some fun and then take it again, it really is the BEST!

Bye and Love

[sunshinedaisies]

New here and starting Topa and with a question

Hi Bug - it took me a LOT longer and a much higher dose to get the desired effect from topa - it varies from person to person. So, first of all, do not rush it - don't rush to get to the next level - stay on the 25mg for a week at least before moving up - even if you don't feel any different - rushing Topa does not help it. Jay is up to 100mg and has no cravings - I am not sure if she had any at 50 or 75 or not - maybe if she comes on she can chime in. but don't be disheartened if you don't have the hoped for effect immediately - as I said, for some (me !!) it took a higher dosage and a lot longer - so be patient.

Hang in there,

hugs, sun X