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    I Am Ready To Take The Baclofen Plunge!

    I have spent a considerable amount of time on this thread over a number of months, although I have done so fairly inconsistently. I read Dr. Ameisen's book awhile ago, as well. I have been aware of baclofen for some time now, and was extremely excited and hopeful about this new treatment for alcoholism.

    But, true to my pattern, and likely baffling to others, after my initial introduction to Dr. A's book, as well as extensive lurking on here and other corners of the internet where baclofen treatment is being discussed, I just let it go. It just slipped my mind, which is kind of hard to believe. Well another crisis has struck. Not that it is any great surprise to me, because it is not. This time, however, my conduct while intoxicated may very well cost me my girlfriend and my job.

    Again, I am not exactly shocked, but I am ready to do what I should have done months ago. I am very nervous and frightened that this may not work for me, but I honestly don't know what to do. I have been to AA on and off for years. I have been to two inpatient rehab centers and one outpatient program. I have 2 DUIs and don't even own a vehicle anymore because I am fearful of the consequences. I work for a website from home, and seriously doubt I could hold any other position in my current state.

    I am 27, and would say that I probably have been an alcoholic for 10 years at this point. My pattern is to drink heavily and consistently with some benders mixed in for good measure. I have suffered quite a bit as a result of this addiction, and I am becoming concerned about my health - not to mention that the job and girlfriend may be about to go. I have put my family through an awful lot. I recently moved from Chicago where I went to college to a Western State. The rest of my family lives in another Midwestern town. It is just me and my girlfriend and I am afraid I may have betrayed her trust to an extent that could prove to be too much.

    I have had a deep desire to end this insanity for several years now - but it is never enough, apparently. The cravings have always caused me to relapse. The stories described here, as well as Dr. A's experience, seem nothing short of a miracle, however. I do not hold any deep grudges against AA or the treatment experiences I have had, but similar to Dr. A, these approaches have not been effective for me on account of the craving. I want to give this a shot.

    Furthermore, I am hoping to document my experience for others on this site. I need to learn some accountability, and also feel as if the stories that others have shared have been a ray of light in what I have sometimes deemed a hopeless situation for myself. By posting my experience here, I am hoping that it will give me the desire to stick with it as long as it takes, no matter what. Please feel free to give me any input that you believe would be helpful to my situation.

    Right now, I have a pretty simple plan. I am going to try to contact Dr. Levin tonight. From what I gather, he has been very helpful and generous with his time in trying to advance this treatment. If he can help me, and write me a script, great. If not, my plan is just to order the Bac from one of the pharmacies listed on MWO, and begin self-treating myself with the help of this forum. I have had enough. I hope this is an answer for me too!

    #2
    I Am Ready To Take The Baclofen Plunge!

    Good luck mate. I've just got my Bac so will be starting tomorrow.

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      #3
      I Am Ready To Take The Baclofen Plunge!

      I hesitated too - wasted months half-heartedly trying to find a doc who'd give me a prescription.

      The bottom line is, there is nothing to worry about. Just do it. In a week or two you will be kicking yourself for not having acted sooner.

      Go for it!

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        #4
        I Am Ready To Take The Baclofen Plunge!

        Spoke With Dr. LeVin

        I spoke briefly with Dr. LeVin yesterday evening. He sounded like he was talking to a lot of different patients, and we did not speak long. He sounded like he really wanted to help, however, and advised that I call his office to set up a phone consultation. I will update everyone when that takes place. Looking forward to it. I suppose that if someone is really serious about BAC it can't hurt to have a Doc with his reputation lead the way for you. Although I am curious what he will tell me that I have not already read on this board.

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          #5
          I Am Ready To Take The Baclofen Plunge!

          Have taken my first doses of Bac...

          I have not followed up on this thread in quite awhile, because I had not received my baclofen. It came last night. I have now taken 3 doses of 10mg each - 1 last night before bed, one today (Thanksgiving) when I woke up and another one just now. I am getting ready to go to a get together with my girlfriend (hoping to not drink).

          Last night was actually the first night in a few weeks that I did not have anything to drink. I don't think it had anything to do with the Bac, however, as I did not take that until late in the evening. I feel like I gave myself permission to drink even more after I knew the baclofen was on the way. Generally, I drink a majority of nights, and sometimes start early in the day, although not frequently. I also have been known to go on a multi-day, round the clock bender on occasion.

          I am going to really try to abstain while titrating up. Today may be difficult as I am sure most people will be drinking while watching football. We will see what happens.

          I am planning to take 10mg of Bac 3X per day for the first week. Then I will titrate up by either 10mg/day or 20mg/day for the following week. I want to go slow. Any suggestions on titration schedule would be appreciated. I also may give Dr. LeVin another call now that I have the Baclofen. By the way, I ordered from Goldpharma and all went well with that.

          Happy Thanksgiving!

          Far, Far, Away...

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            #6
            I Am Ready To Take The Baclofen Plunge!

            Welcome aboard, Far! We all look forward to your progress. Your story sounds fairly similar to mine, and I was in an almost identical position when I was 27 (I'm 36 now.) I sure wish I had found this site and this treatment then.

            What brand did you order from Goldpharma? I switched from Lioresal to Neuraxpharm, and found it to be considerably cheaper, but still of excellent quality.

            -Moglor

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              #7
              I Am Ready To Take The Baclofen Plunge!

              Far,

              I have one word of advise, take caution while drinking on BAC. For most the effects of AL are intensified. You may end up embarrassing yourself or causing more pain even though you didn't think that you had that much to drink. Personally, BAC and AL do not mix. Hoping you will find a way to overcome this addiction.

              Everything I need is within me!

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                #8
                I Am Ready To Take The Baclofen Plunge!

                So I had a very pleasant Thanksgiving and I hope everyone else did too. I went to the get together and did not drink for a little while. I did, however, end up having some drinks - 3 beers and two glasses of wine. I noticed (and this might be a placebo effect), that after I had the 5 drinks and was sitting around talking and then subsequently when I came home, I did not feel significant craving, uneasiness, and irritability like I usually would after 5 drinks. I never have 5 drinks - its always 0 or drinking until I am drunk, usually the latter.

                I slept extremely well last night, but was very, very, tired this morning. Not sure if this is because of the BAC or not.

                Moglor - I have BAC from Ratiopharm. I may experiment with different brands when I order next. Have people noticed that some are better than others?

                Brightlife - My intention is to abstain while on BAC. We will see how that goes, it will likely be difficult.

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                  #9
                  I Am Ready To Take The Baclofen Plunge!

                  My experience of baclofen

                  Hi all, Wednesday 24th marked 6 months of my taking baclofen. I, like so many others found alcohol relieved my anxiety and panic attacks for a while and then made them worse. After a few days of moderate drinking white wine I found that I had to have more and more and then could not drink as I hated the smell, hated the taste, it made me gag thinking about taking a drink but my body had to have it to stave off withdrawal. This had been a vicious circle for a long time and I had sought the help of my doctors with no real help being given except Librium to assist detox at home. This was sheer hell for a week but I was then clean of alcohol for a while until the next time. The time between hitting the bottle became less and less and then it was drinking for a week, detox for a week and lucky to have 2 weeks till my next binge. I was extremely unhappy but felt helpless. I assigned myself to an alcohol and drug abuse help centre over the phone and a nurse came to see me. She listened to me and concluded that my problem was stress and anxiety and that I treated myself with alcohol. She gave me a high dose of detox and this regime took a week with her visiting each day to take my blood pressure and talking to me. It was good to find that I could talk to her and tell her all my troubles which may seem small to others but huge to me. After 6 months with only 2 relapsed my time with her came to an end resulting to my falling again into the clutches of seeking solace in a bottle of wine. I contacted the Dr under whom the nurse worked and he gave me Librium again as I was now trusted to detox on my own but also, he assigned another nurse to be there for me for another 6 months. He then made an appointment for me to see him and after discussions with him and the nurse he prescribed a new drug that had been brought to his attention and that he felt may work for me. I first took 5mg three times a day for two weeks and went to see him again. He increased the dose to 10mg twice a day which is what I have been on for the past 6 months. I am still under his care. I had to take a glass of wine that first morning when I went to see him and took my first Baclofen at 11 am that morning. I have not looked back since! I have not thought of drinking and can't really believe that I have been through an addiction to this horrible liquid. My life has been great for the last 6 months with no anxiety attacks or panicky feelings at all. All the problems I had are still there - but I can take them on the chin and deal with them. Being able to wake up in the morning and dealing with each day as it comes is wonderful. I love being alive and enjoying the things around me. I can lead my life amongst drinkers and don't feel the need to drink myself. Alcohol has no place in my life but I don't mind seeing others drink-I guess I feel sorry for them for feeling they need to drink this drug at all. I have not tried to drink myself as I would feel stupid putting alcohol inside my body for no reason at all. I love the fact that my purse is always full - every shopping trip would have include a couple of bottles of wine and I could only drink good wine so it was ?10 to ?16 each time. I have had no side effects from taking Baclofen and take one in the morning and one in the evening and often forget to take them but do have 2 a day most of the time. Forgot to take two sometime on my holiday in Spain in June as I had two over when I came home but did not feel any ill effects. Don't mind if I have to take two a day for the rest of my life as that is what they have given me - MY LIFE BACK! I urge anyone who feels at the end of their tether and want to get a normal life to consult a Dr to prescribe these wonderful tablets - it could save your life if you are drinking to excess and ruining your body as well as your quality of life. We must die one day but we must also live and if we are to live then why not live as happily and as healthily as we possibly can. Baclofen is giving me quality of happy life which is also a healthy state of existance unlike what I had to endure 6 months ago. I hope this helps others in the situation I was just 6 months ago - there is a wonderful life after alcohol waiting for you - go get it and best of luck.:h

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                    #10
                    I Am Ready To Take The Baclofen Plunge!

                    Welcome Far, Far Away,
                    I hope the BAC journey goes well for you and it ends with success for you.
                    Full English
                    1st started BAC 17/4/10 - got to 60MG. Stopped 28th May due to SE's.
                    2nd try of BAC started 6/9/10. Reached my switch at 210MG on 8/12/10. I weigh 68KG.
                    Have been Al Free since 19th November 2010. Extremely thankful and grateful.

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                      #11
                      I Am Ready To Take The Baclofen Plunge!

                      KABAM,
                      Fantastic news and congratulations. Your story inspires me and gives me hope.
                      Full English
                      1st started BAC 17/4/10 - got to 60MG. Stopped 28th May due to SE's.
                      2nd try of BAC started 6/9/10. Reached my switch at 210MG on 8/12/10. I weigh 68KG.
                      Have been Al Free since 19th November 2010. Extremely thankful and grateful.

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                        #12
                        I Am Ready To Take The Baclofen Plunge!

                        Thank you for sharing your story KABAM. I am so happy that you have found a solution. I hope to one day be walking in your shoes. This is my 3rd day taking Baclofen. It is Friday. I did not drink this evening and all of the liquor stores are now closed, so I am safely sober for the evening.

                        I certainly was very, very tempted to drink, however. If my girlfriend had given me permission I would have gone ahead and bought some AL. As it was, she was able to convince me that I did not need it. More often than not, I would have just ignored her wishes and went ahead to the store. Since I did not do that tonight, I possibly had more control over my AL thoughts. I feel fine now - no cravings.

                        I took three 10mg BAC pills today - and then I took another one tonight after fighting off the temptation to drink. Not sure I should have done this. My plan was to take only 30mg/day for my first week. Anyways, after taking another pill I feel fine and sleepy so I am going to get some sober rest which should be a nice change.

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                          #13
                          I Am Ready To Take The Baclofen Plunge!

                          Hello Far

                          What you said rings true for many of us.

                          Wish you the best for your journey
                          Started Baclofen 3/9/10 Hit my switch at 250mg on 21/11/10 3.125mg/Kg

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                            #14
                            I Am Ready To Take The Baclofen Plunge!

                            Just wanted to update my progress. Today is the sixth day that I have been taking Baclofen. I took 30mg today, but have been taking 40mg/day more often than not, because I am really trying to abstain as much as possible. I will be titrating up slowly.

                            I have been AF for two days. Since last Wednesday (today is Monday) I have had around 12 drinks (5 on Thanksgiving, 7 on Saturday). On a unit basis, it would likely be a little more. My largest consumption was on Saturday when I had 200ml of whiskey and three beers.

                            This is significantly less than I would normally consume, although I am not ready to give the credit to the Baclofen - I have been really trying to not drink. I am still having cravings, but they are not overwhelming.

                            Had a bizarre SE to report from today. I was taking a nap (something I never do) in the evening and recall the sensation of an explosion going off in my ear while I was asleep. This happened twice while I was napping - quite intense, but no big deal as it was just a dream.

                            Overall, sleep has been great. I am sleeping much better than I have in a long time. This is a very nice change as AL really screwed with my sleeping patterns. I notice that I am drowsy in the mornings, but nothing that I cannot handle.

                            Far, Far, Away...

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                              #15
                              I Am Ready To Take The Baclofen Plunge!

                              Any thing to report Far?
                              Started Baclofen 3/9/10 Hit my switch at 250mg on 21/11/10 3.125mg/Kg

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