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    I've been lurking for a while whilst reading up on the brilliant information on Bac that is to be found on here. My first order from Inhouse arrived after seven days and is waiting at the Post Office to be collected tomorrow morning.

    I discovered and began to research Bac in, perhaps, an unusual way.

    I'd been prescribed Lyrica (Pregabalin) for anxiety and found, to my astonishment, that once I'd upped the dosage to a level that helped with the anxiety, my drinking moderated without effort. Rather than six cans of strong lager on a work night I'd be having two. At the weekends, rather than blacking out, I'd go home drunk but at least remembering! I was still a drinker but felt so much better.

    Unfortunately, after a year my doctor had changed and he called me in once my repeat prescription for a year had come to its end. The idiot told me straight, I was to come off it and wouldn't even let me taper it down. A week of hell followed, coming off Lyrica hurt so much I couldn't even drink! But after a week of pain I was back on the booze like the old days and seriously knocking it back.

    I thought I'd investigate getting Lyrica online but the price put me off, I was looking at about ?9 a day. I considered Lyrica's weaker brother, Gabapentin, but it was still pricey.

    I knew that the way Lyrica worked was related to Gaba so I decided to trawl through all the reasonably(ish) priced drugs on Inhouse to see if I could find one that might have some sort of similar effect.

    After a while I came to the Baclofen, googled it, noticed the Gaba-B thing on Wiki and then the possible help with alcoholic... eureka!

    A bit more googling got me here and I think I've read the entire forum.

    After the help I got from Lyrica, I'm really hopeful that I can cut out the booze for good with Baclofen. To be honest, I can now imagine, with what I've learnt on here,that if I could've upped my dose more, Lyrica could have led to 'the switch'! Who knows.

    Anyway I start tomorrow. Wish me luck.... and thanks to everyone that has ever posted on here, you've given me such hope and optimism!

    #2
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    :welcome: Best of luck to you Wildrover! Lots of people have found help with the bac.

    I think it was so irresponsible of your new doc to not only yank you off of Lyrica, something that was obviously helping you, but not even let you titrate down!! Did they give you any reason to why they were taking you off of it?

    But who knows, maybe you'll find that bac works out even better for you!
    Better Living Through Chemistry

    Switched at 180mgs of Baclofen on 1/31/11, and again on 10/8/11 at 200mgs.

    Could've been a swan on a glassy lake, could've been a gull in a clipper's wake. Could've been a ladybug on a windchime, but she was born a dragonfly.
    ~Clutch

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      #3
      Starting the Bac tomorrow

      Great news!

      Good luck!

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        #4
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        Isolde;970057 wrote: :welcome: Best of luck to you Wildrover! Lots of people have found help with the bac.

        I think it was so irresponsible of your new doc to not only yank you off of Lyrica, something that was obviously helping you, but not even let you titrate down!! Did they give you any reason to why they were taking you off of it?

        But who knows, maybe you'll find that bac works out even better for you!
        The impression I got was that he thought the original Doc was irresponsible for letting me have it in the first place. The reason he gave me for taking me off it was that he believed CBT was the answer to my anxiety, even though I'd already done a 12 week CBT therapy. I thought f*** you Dr, I'll get pissed then, did for two days, then the withdrawals kicked in!

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          #5
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          Input On Titration Schedule?

          I will be interested in following your progress. What are your thoughts on the titration schedule? I know their is a lot of info on here, and everyone is different, but what sources are you going to use to try to find the right schedule? Also, does anyone know how much body weight matters? I was a large person to begin with, but through lack of exercise, poor diet, and large alcohol intake, I am likely around 280lbs at 6 feet 2 inches. I think it will be fairly easy to drop the weight through exercise, diet, and sobriety, but that will take some time. Will I need to start at a higher dose because of my size?

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            #6
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            Doctors where I live tend to have this CBT-only mentality, and if they do prescribe anything it's generally with a "lowest possible dose for the shortest possible time" mentality. Lyrica is approved for anxiety treatment in Europe so it's not as if prescribing it was totally unfounded. Both doctors and counsellors seem convinced that CBT is the real treatment for anxiety problems, aswell as depression, alcoholism, and several other problems. CBT probably does help quite a few people but I have the feeling that it has become a pseudo-religion with many doctors and counsellors.

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              #7
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              Hey Wildover,

              Amazing investigative work you have done--and welcome to the forum!! Do you know a healthy schedule to take bac? Work your way up slowly and increase by week. There is a ton of info here about dose. Let us know how you are doing and if you need help with amount.

              Good luck!!

              Wonka

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                #8
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                :welcome: to MWO, Wildrover (and FFA, of course)

                Good luck!
                I'll do whatever it takes
                AF 21/08/2009

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                  #9
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                  Both Dr. A and I hit the switch at 3.6 kg/mg. Many need a lot less. I suspect that if you can not drink while taking the bac, you hit the switch faster and with a lower dose. I know someone who hit the switch at 60mg. I needed 245. I weigh 148.
                  Go before that fire there, at the altar of your heart
                  That fire of who you really are and be consumed by it fully
                  Surrender everything into the fire of that love until you are one with that love. You ARE that love.
                  Tilak Pyle Altar of the Heart

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                    #10
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                    Wonka;970353 wrote: Hey Wildover,

                    Amazing investigative work you have done--and welcome to the forum!! Do you know a healthy schedule to take bac? Work your way up slowly and increase by week. There is a ton of info here about dose. Let us know how you are doing and if you need help with amount.

                    Good luck!!

                    Wonka
                    Thanks to all for the welcome.

                    Could do with a bit of help with the dose. I've started today with 4 x 10mg which seems to be more than most but the first dose I took seemed to help with the anxiety in a small way so I thought I'd replicate the way I'd taken Lyrica in four doses a day.

                    No adverse side effects at all. Just a slight easing of my anxiety which is great and an increased appetite which is also good because the booze stops me eating much. To be honest, if I didn't know I should be titrating up I'd double my dose tomorrow. I'll give it three days at 4 x 10mg but I wondered if anyone could advise me on what dose I should go to after the three days. I'm 10 stone which is, I think, 140 lbs.

                    I've still got a pretty normal craving for alcohol but I'm gonna try to get through on just a couple of bottles of brown ale tonight.

                    Any help appreciated.

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                      #11
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                      My clinic had me go from 30 mg/d for 3 days and then to 60mg/day day 4. I had to go more slowly tho. You can probably safely try it as you are not having any serious side effects on 30/d. The half life is short so spreading it out is good for an even effect.
                      Good Luck
                      Sunny

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                        #12
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                        Welcome!!

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