Sobriety. Whatever that is.

[startingover]

Sobriety. Whatever that is.

Now that is amazing. All these victories go together to help you keep going.
I expect mentally you are feeling a lot sharper?

[guardian]

Sobriety. Whatever that is.

Now that's the kind of sobriety I'm looking for Ig. Well done my friend. I know you had some serious insomnia in addition to serious life stress to contend with. Bravo.

Now to help others find the light, yes? Encore.

[ignominous]

Sobriety. Whatever that is.

Thanks a lot guys but I'm still not really certain.

Had other things on my mind these last few days and SEs were getting me down, so maybe that helped.
Since writing that my contrariness has already suggested that this is the perfect moment to have that last cold one.

I shall have to wait until tomorrow or 6 months to satisfy myself.

If I wasn't Bac'd out I would be feeling a lot sharper and when I know I've truly found the light, yes.

[ignominous]

Sobriety. Whatever that is.

OK now that's out of my system.

Really Starting its been great to know I have a guru out there and if I wasn't feeling so doubtful I might feel thankful or exhilarated

And Guardian thanks for following

I had decided to taper down from the present dose of 250mg which I've only been at for 3 days to 240 where I was stuck for 8 days. I actually had my first AF on the day I increased to 250, so I think it was just the placebo effect that kicked it in.

[startingover]

Sobriety. Whatever that is.

Ig the journey to sobriety is an emotional one and sometimes can leave us fearful or any other negative emotion. BUT it also brings terrific self confidence as you will find out the further you go.

Whether its placebo or not doesnt really matter in the great scheme of things. The fact that you have done 3 days free of alcohol does.

Proud of you Iggy.

[Isolde]

Sobriety. Whatever that is.

Just want to say - CONGRATULATIONS!!

I know you are still hesitant to call it the switch. But in any case, 3 days AF is huge progress.

[ignominous]

Sobriety. Whatever that is.

Well that's another one under the belt



unFUCKINGbelievable

Would be my overriding emotion if I was a pensive guy


Thanks Isolde - You've stood by me through thick and thin and that has given me much of the strength to carry on.

Actually my main emotion is terror about the dismal state of my life particularly finances which are very close to breaking point. Whatever. It probably isn't as bad as it seems now. "Wake up and smell the coffee you comatose moron" Ig2

So on that note I'm inclined to say
YeeeeeeeeeHaaaaa

[moglor]

Sobriety. Whatever that is.

Congrats, Ig! Have you achieved "indifference" to alcohol?

[ignominous]

Sobriety. Whatever that is.

Mog I couldn't give a shit about it.

Bit worried about how long this new attitude of mine will last. I moved down today to 240mg from 250. Wanted to go to 230 which I think would have been safe but erred on the side of caution. Its working so why fuck with it.

I'm back to my old quandary concerning what to do now. Taper after the 'switch' or maintain my dose ad infinitum. The SEs are still rather debilitating and I could frankly do without the cost. My plan for what its worth is too reduce another 10mg after another week.

What do you think?

[Full English]

Sobriety. Whatever that is.

Well done Ig. I hope the indifference continues. Not giving a shit about Al sound like a dream come true.
Full English

[beatle]

Sobriety. Whatever that is.

ignominous;1010720 wrote: Mog I couldn't give a shit about it.

Bit worried about how long this new attitude of mine will last. I moved down today to 240mg from 250. Wanted to go to 230 which I think would have been safe but erred on the side of caution. Its working so why fuck with it.

I'm back to my old quandary concerning what to do now. Taper after the 'switch' or maintain my dose ad infinitum. The SEs are still rather debilitating and I could frankly do without the cost. My plan for what its worth is too reduce another 10mg after another week.

What do you think?

Can you define "I couldn't give a shit about it"?

And what is your weight/bac ratio, and how long has it taken you to get to this point?

Although we are all *very* happy about your success, it would be even more helpful if you gave us specifics.

Like how much you drank before, during, after, etc., also compared to how much bac you took and how fast you titrated. Maybe this is all gleanable if we go through your many posts, but it is hard to get a handle of without doing a lot of work.

And, why do you ask "what do you think?"?

[ignominous]

Sobriety. Whatever that is.

Full. It really is like a dream come true and I'm worried I might wake up!

Beatle: Give a shit is a colloquialism meaning that it matters less than a shit (useless pile of excrement). Its something that part of me would say, the other more stable part would say "yes i have reached total indifference".

I weigh 80 Kg so at 250mg the ratio would be 3.125.

Its taken me about 2.5 months to reach this level

I drank heavily since University. Gradually increasing 'till my recent level of about about 6 bottles (750ml) of 40% whiskey a week. I have always been a binge drinker with the aim of reaching a state of indifference to my life! 1/3 of a bottle nightly was sort of sustainable with a couple of happy binge nights a week that account for the rest. Almost immediately after starting Bac I could do without the binge nights.

"what do you think" is asked for several reasons. I have found this forum incredibly helpful to me on my journey both from what I've been able to gleen from other alcoholics thoughts and from the opportunity to put my own into print. I still need that feed back, I have stopped drinking but want it to last.

Thanks for the opportunity to get some more of my brain organised!

Finally you can see a detailed account of my journey here
https://www.mywayout.org/community/f2...ous-45179.html

[airam]

Sobriety. Whatever that is.

I m very glad for you.

[ignominous]

Sobriety. Whatever that is.

Thanks airam

[moglor]

Sobriety. Whatever that is.

Ig, I found the path to ruin in titrating down too far too fast. The first time I hit my switch, I was at 200mg/day, and I very rapidly (within 2 weeks) dropped down to 150. Another 2 weeks and I was down to 75, and fell victim to curiosity about "what would happen" if I decided to drink, which of course led to a binge.

I hit my switch this time at 225, and over the span of the last 6 weeks I have reduced my dosage to 175mg/day, and I still have indifference to alcohol.

I still spend a little less money in baclofen than I would have on alcohol, so financially it's a wash. After being on it for so long, I no longer have SEs. I have no reason to titrate down further, but I probably will after the new year, probably by 25mg every month or two as I deem "safe."