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    #61
    My progress with Baclofen

    Getting back to "normal" here! I went to a hockey game with my brothers and dad on Tuesday, and I was a bit worried. I knew they would all be drinking, and was concerned that it would be weird that I was the only one not drinking. But I was determined not to drink, not after feeling like shit on Monday. As usual, I worked everything up in my head to be bigger than it needed to be. My dad didn't drink at all due to an upset stomach, and one of my brothers only had a few beers since he had to get up early for work. Plus, they all knew that I'd called out of work on Monday for a hangover, so no one really thought anything of it.
    In any case, I was proud of myself. I took an extra 20mg before going to the game to be on the safe side. I felt pretty good on that 140mgs total, so I thought that I'd bump back up to 140 for a little while, assuming the insomnia didn't come back. I was feeling it on Wednesday though, getting the bac buzz back - tense body all over, difficulty concentrating, sky high libido. And by the afternoon I was feeling all kinds of weird. Just downright uncomfortable. I've also been dealing with really bad back pain for a few weeks that is only getting worse with each passing day, until I was almost in tears on the way home from work yesterday. I really didn't see the need to compound all of that, so decided to stick at 120mgs.

    Another testament to bac rewiring the brain. In the past, xanax hasn't really done a whole lot for me. Klonopin has been my gold standard for completely relieving my anxiety, helping me sleep, and making me feel nice and relaxed the next day. I took it one night last week when I'd been having trouble sleeping and woke up panicky. And now xanax works wonders at letting me sleep without making me feel weird or drugged at all (I also only ever take half of the lowest dose). So bac has obviously done something to my brain to change how certain substances affect it. Just an interesting little side note.

    The jury is still out on the effectiveness of generic bac from India vs. prescription baclofen. 120mgs feels like 120mgs to me.

    Anyway, doing well, not drinking and not desiring to. Switched my dose up a little bit when I started taking the 20mgs doses of the Rx. I had been taking my smallest dose at night before bed (10mg). I have it spaced out more evenly now and my nighttime dose is 20mg. This seems to be helping me sleep better thoughout the night, w/out all of the tossing and turning I was experiencing before. So now it's 20-40-40-20 throughout the day.
    Better Living Through Chemistry

    Switched at 180mgs of Baclofen on 1/31/11, and again on 10/8/11 at 200mgs.

    Could've been a swan on a glassy lake, could've been a gull in a clipper's wake. Could've been a ladybug on a windchime, but she was born a dragonfly.
    ~Clutch

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      #62
      My progress with Baclofen

      Good for you Is, good job.

      Your tiny lapses were not a big relapse, thankfully, it sounds more like a shot across the bow, vs an actual hit. A warning shot. It got your attention and you addressed it. But it sounds like you may have gotten spooked, and no wonder.

      Based on the fact the doctors changed their protocol to full dosing forever leads me (and others here) to wonder if Dr A had a significant relapse or at least a return of craving.

      Personally, it scares me to think I'd be on a full "switch" level dose the rest of my life. What IF, you ran out of pills, or forgot them on a business trip or vacation, or they fell in the toilet and you couldn't get more fast enough? You'd have a life threatening illness from the sudden lack of bac. That's seriously frightening, especially when I consider how many pills it takes to keep up such a dose. What retiree could afford it?

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        #63
        My progress with Baclofen

        Fletch;1041139 wrote:
        Personally, it scares me to think I'd be on a full "switch" level dose the rest of my life. What IF, you ran out of pills, or forgot them on a business trip or vacation, or they fell in the toilet and you couldn't get more fast enough? You'd have a life threatening illness from the sudden lack of bac. That's seriously frightening, especially when I consider how many pills it takes to keep up such a dose. What retiree could afford it?
        Fletch, I mentioned this in another post, but it bears repeating on this one. If you get a prescription through Walgreens, you can join their "generic prescription club" for $20. After that, you get an incredibly low price on Bac. I just bought 336 10mg pills today for less than $15! That's about 4 cents a pill. At that price, it is definitely worth it to stock up on a backup "stash" in case of emergency. I have some backup from an online order I'd made as well. I never want to be without my Bac, ever! I even plan on carrying the good doctor's office, home and cell #'s in my wallet, just in case I ever end up hospitalized and need him to speak with the hospital staff about my Bac use. He is such a champion for us, and he'd be happy to speak up re: keeping me on high-dose Bac. :h

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          #64
          My progress with Baclofen

          Seeking,

          Thank you SSOOOOOO much on the generic Rx club from Walgreen's. Dr. L. told me the BAC would be $$$$$ and it was...$116 for 270 pills, but now with the generic club, I will be all set. Thanks again!

          Well, a progress...or should I say.....digression update for me. I do not mean to hijack this thread...I just feel comfortable coming here. I was doing great on 90 mg. AF like I wanted to be...and yesterday, even though I am in the beautiful city of Barcelona, with nice people, beautiful weather, out of sheer anger because of a problem co-worker, I plowed through the bottle of Champagne in the mini-bar. SHIT! I know better than to let anger get the better of me and I did it anyway. :upset:

          Ok, I'm done. Thanks!

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            #65
            My progress with Baclofen

            Don't worry Rusty, you can hijack here anytime.
            And I'll tell you what everyone else told me earlier this week - it's not a setback, just a small lapse that you can learn from. Next time you are frustrated and angry, you might be able to halt your thought processes for long enough to take a prn dose and try to wait it out.
            But for now, try to let it go and get back to enjoying beautiful Barcelona! :l

            I've found Rx bac to be really cheap, maybe it's just my insurance. And it turns out that what I thought was 3 months' worth of 80mgs a day is actually 3 months' worth of 160mgs a day! They screwed up the prescription in my favor! So here I thought I would blow through the Rx in half the time, and it will actually last me longer than 3 months. And all that only cost me $20. Just because they couldn't seem to figure out what to charge me!

            As far as sleeping well with the 20mgs before bed - I spoke too soon. Bac to tossing and turning last night, with my brain getting fixated on stupid things (like how to pronounce oscillococcinum - stupid commercials!). I tossed and turned all night and my concentration is crappy today. Still getting fixated on other stupid things that I can't do anything about, nothing as dumb as that pronunciation thing though, lol. One thing I can now say for the Rx bac vs. the generic stuff I was getting online - it seems to be dehydrating me more. My skin is much drier and the constipation issue is back. :durn: I think I'm going to pick up a fiber supplement and see if that helps at all. So far, it seems only Ig and I have experienced this wonderful SE, unless others are just too embarassed to speak up about it! :H Considering the super high doses that some of you are on, and how much bac dehydrates you, I would think that this would be more of a problem.
            Better Living Through Chemistry

            Switched at 180mgs of Baclofen on 1/31/11, and again on 10/8/11 at 200mgs.

            Could've been a swan on a glassy lake, could've been a gull in a clipper's wake. Could've been a ladybug on a windchime, but she was born a dragonfly.
            ~Clutch

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              #66
              My progress with Baclofen

              Is,

              Thanks for your support.:h I figured out why I was vulnerable yesterday and why I caved. Since being in Barcelona, my eating/sleeping schedule is all screwed up because of the time difference, and the last 3 days I have missed doses. I've only been taking 60 mg. instead of 90. Well, I learned my lesson.

              Regarding the constipation...yup, I have the same issue. While I was on 60 mg. per day, Bac would help me sleep at night....now it gives me insomnia, especially since I've been in Spain.

              Thanks for letting me vent.:l

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                #67
                My progress with Baclofen

                Rusty;1041353 wrote: Seeking,

                Thank you SSOOOOOO much on the generic Rx club from Walgreen's. Dr. L. told me the BAC would be $$$$$ and it was...$116 for 270 pills, but now with the generic club, I will be all set. Thanks again!

                Well, a progress...or should I say.....digression update for me. I do not mean to hijack this thread...I just feel comfortable coming here. I was doing great on 90 mg. AF like I wanted to be...and yesterday, even though I am in the beautiful city of Barcelona, with nice people, beautiful weather, out of sheer anger because of a problem co-worker, I plowed through the bottle of Champagne in the mini-bar. SHIT! I know better than to let anger get the better of me and I did it anyway. :upset:

                Ok, I'm done. Thanks!
                Rusty, no problem! We come here to share whatever info we can find, and I was absolutely delighted to discover that prescription club. Holy crap, Bac is now affordable for me, even at high doses! yay!

                Sorry to hear about the champagne, but that stuff is bound to happen once in a while. Don't beat yourself up! It happens. (I want to work for whatever company you work for, by the way! Barcelona sounds wonderful right now.)

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                  #68
                  My progress with Baclofen

                  Isolde;1041614 wrote: ]As far as sleeping well with the 20mgs before bed - I spoke too soon. Bac to tossing and turning last night, with my brain getting fixated on stupid things (like how to pronounce oscillococcinum - stupid commercials!). I tossed and turned all night and my concentration is crappy today. Still getting fixated on other stupid things that I can't do anything about, nothing as dumb as that pronunciation thing though, lol. One thing I can now say for the Rx bac vs. the generic stuff I was getting online - it seems to be dehydrating me more. My skin is much drier and the constipation issue is back. :durn: I think I'm going to pick up a fiber supplement and see if that helps at all. So far, it seems only Ig and I have experienced this wonderful SE, unless others are just too embarassed to speak up about it! :H Considering the super high doses that some of you are on, and how much bac dehydrates you, I would think that this would be more of a problem.
                  I struggle with the pronunciation stuff too, and with trying to get my thoughts out when talking to people sometimes. And the dehydration and dry skin--ugh! And some crazy, CRAZY dreams. I actually woke up screaming a few days ago. Luckily, the dream only turned scary at the very end, so it didn't affect me too much.

                  Still, I'll take those (decidedly minor) SE's any day over the horrors of life as a practicing alcoholic. I have no trouble avoiding large amounts of AL when I'm on my beloved bac. While I still drink, the amounts are WAY down from what they were. You're doing great Isolde, and I wish you the best in your journey! :l

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                    #69
                    My progress with Baclofen

                    Hey Is,

                    So glad you are doing better!!! Good job on not drinking at the hockey game! Hope you have a good sober weekend!!

                    Rusty,

                    Sorry you had a bad day and drink, but like someone said...now you know and can maybe take a bit more bac when you feel that way....Enjoy Barcelona....walk to the water and take a nap on a park bench!

                    SS,

                    Like your new av, but confused me....used to seeing the other one! Am very easily confused lately! what dose are you on now? when did you start? Good to hear your drinking is WAY down!!

                    Progress not perfection...one of the only things I picked up from AA!!
                    "What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us." Ralph Waldo Emerson

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                      #70
                      My progress with Baclofen

                      Hi Rusty Forgetting to take the pills will do that to you. On a couple of occasions while titrating up I had old unwanted emotions come back to haunt me which could easily have led me back to the booze had I been trying to be AF. As I recall on at least 2 of those occasions I realised I had missed a dose. It was then that I became extra vigilant about my doses and simplified them to even quantities at times when it would be difficult to forget. Breakfast, lunch, dinner, bed.

                      Is. Ha. I hated the constipation. I was popping milk of magnesia like smarties but to little avail. Started the Bac to get all the shit out of my life, not so I could carry it with me all day! At present dose I am regular again. Only need to stir the coffee; quick dash to the WC and I'm back before its stopped swirling!

                      Serenity, although I didn't make an extreme effort to go AF, my intake was greatly reduced from day one. For me I no longer was compelled to binge 2 or 3 times a week so rather than 6 bottles of whiskey I was easily able to survive with less than 3.
                      Started Baclofen 3/9/10 Hit my switch at 250mg on 21/11/10 Present maintenance dose of 50mg : started drinking after 1 year, upped dose to 80mg and stopped: Tapered to 30mg, started 6 months of drinking, upped dose to 240mg to stop 12/7/12

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                        #71
                        My progress with Baclofen

                        Take a magnesium supplement, SS, it should help with the constipation and also provide a relaxing effect. If it doesn't, up the dose. "Tit" up!"

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                          #72
                          My progress with Baclofen

                          I thought we got rid of "that" word....I thought the BM issues were just me...intestional issues and everytime I try to stop drinking it happens....drinking keeps me regular...sorry if TMI....so that will be my third SE!!!

                          Water, what is that???
                          "What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us." Ralph Waldo Emerson

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                            #73
                            My progress with Baclofen

                            LOL, Taw, alcohol makes me have the opposite effect, TMI!!!

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                              #74
                              My progress with Baclofen

                              taw;1041750 wrote: SS,

                              Like your new av, but confused me....used to seeing the other one! Am very easily confused lately! what dose are you on now? when did you start? Good to hear your drinking is WAY down!!
                              Totally confused here, haha! I didn't have any avatar at all prior to today! My new avatar is from Viktor and Rolf, my favorite designers. I love their surrealist couture stuff. Anyway, I'm on about 110 mgs/day right now. Most days it's pretty good for me. Today I've felt "off." wtf? No idea why I feel disjointed and dysphoric today...

                              Bruunhilde;1041777 wrote:
                              Take a magnesium supplement, SS, it should help with the constipation and also provide a relaxing effect. If it doesn't, up the dose. "Tit" up!"
                              Wait, I'm confused again! :H I never mentioned constipation, you must be thinking of someone else! haha

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                                #75
                                My progress with Baclofen

                                LOL, I think that issue was raised by Is in this thread... glad to know you're not stopped up, SS! :H

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