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[Seethepony]

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I don't think it'll hurt you to accelerate the doses (I can't say "titration" with a straight face, sorry...)

The wine you're trying so hard not to drink right now might be the party-central part of your brain realising that there's been a change of management. ie it knows you won't be binging in a few days time, so get it while you can... No medals for getting plastered, but not the end of the world either, provided you soldier on tomorrow on the road to righteousness (I'm kidding about the righteousness, I just couldn't figure out how to end that sentence. But you know what I mean...)

Talking of wine - Blimey, I was at a Christmas market 2 days in a row with my daughter and I didn't have a drop of Gluhwein yet. A sober Christmas ahead -- WTF!

[seeking_serenity]

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See--Major congrats on your continued sobriety! I'm so amazed that you can go without wine even when it's in your face! What a miracle! I am really, REALLY looking forward to being indifferent to it.

Thanks for your comments. Oh! And re: the word "titration." It doesn't make me giggle, but I pronounce it "tie-tray-shun." I think if it were pronounced "tit-ray-shun" I'd get the giggles. But it's not pronounced that way here, anyway.

[Lowcountryman]

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the 'party-man' in me also put on a big fight. I just gave in, believing that the brain would be re-wired anyway.
My first true Bac-luck-moment was during a social dinner with friends. The conversation wasn't on my level and that would be a good reason to get pissed. Instead I relocated my glass of wine left to the plate, right to the plate and vv. Finally, I brought a full glass of wine to the kitchen. Didn't want it, didn't miss it, and most of all: it took no effort whatsoever. Helping to clear the table was by the way also something I wasn't able to do

So, the Bac does 'something', and there's really no need to not give in to the party-girl in you right now. Just be patient and change will gonna come anyway. The party-girl in you will find other activities that will make her happy. Party-girl does doesn't agree at this moment Who's to blame her for that?

Am I taking things too lightly? Well perhaps, but for me it has worked pretty well. It also worked with addicted rats, and that's what we eventually have become in a way. It's a one-step programm, that enables you to maybe face and handle underlying problems that you have.

Then again, things are turning out pretty well last few days, so I'm on a natural high.

[ignominous]

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Ditto all the above.

Great

[Ne/Neva Eva]

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Hi, Serenity. I thought this thought was relevant to your thoughts about titrating up:

I am more inclined to field the reasoning from a different angle, one supported and suggested to me by the doctor I am currently seeing regarding the bac, a theory he claims is derived from some clinical testing they have performed (no it is not published to my knowledge) in house at the school.

The idea of a slow titration schedule, and by slow I mean increasing 20 mg every 7 days, after starting off at 10mg the first week, is not simply a tactic that is used for reduction of SE's, but also because it gives your body time to become satiated with the amount of baclofen in your system. It is not dissimilar to the idea of waiting 20 minutes after your first meal to decide if you want seconds. It takes time for your body to realize that it is full. Yes your body would eventually become full if you just kept eating, but you would end up with the same effect if you allowed your body time to realize it was already satisfied. The theory as it relates to baclofen, is that if you blindly titrate up as fast as possible, you will eventually reach satiety, what people refer to as the threshold dose, or the switch, but had you allowed your body time to adjust to increased doses slowly, you would have reached that same feeling on a far lower dose. It is for this reason people titrate back down to what they think of as a maintenance dose, but had they allowed their bodies to adjust, they would have in fact found their maintenance dose to be their switch dose. It is for this reason that the new way of titrating actually enables you to reach your switch at say, 150, as opposed to 250, and you would use 150 as your maintenance and switch dose....
As an obvious disclaimer, I am not a medical professional, and while this theory has been reinforced by those in the medical field familiar with this treatment, it is merely conjecture and of my own formulation for the purposes here on this site.
Publius post, Baclofen after the switch, 10-23

Whatever your decisions about how quickly to go up, it'll work if you can stick with it. Still trying to get unfuzzy enough to update my own progress, but I am progressing! Hope you are.

[Isolde]

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I'm w/Ig, ditto to all of the above. I set a titration schedule for myself but would increase depending on how well my body was tolerating the current dose after a few days. I think I took 10mg on the first day, 20 the second, then bumped up to 30 on the third and stayed there for a few days. As long as you don't feel you're very sensitive to it (which it doesn't seem that you are), I think it's very safe to bump up a little bit more quickly at the lower doses. All dependent on how you feel though.

See, I know exactly what you mean about having stuff in your face and not being affected. I went to my favorite Irish pub the other night and for the first time ever there, didn't have a beer (or anything else for that matter). After we ate, 2 girls came around giving samples of Magner's cider, which I've always liked. And I said no thanks. Figured I hadn't had anything to drink that night, why start at that point?

Anyway seeking, sounds like you're tolerating the bac well so far. Like Low said, don't worry too much about the party girl. I had to deal with her too at the beginning! Eventually the bac does change what makes her happy!

[Ne/Neva Eva]

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[QUOTE=Lowcountryman;1025599] the 'party-man' in me also put on a big fight. I just gave in, believing that the brain would be re-wired anyway.
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yup, I can relate and concur.

For me it hasn't just been my alcoholic mind struggling in the death throes, though. I've also dragged this out in many other ways, too. Most notably, ftr, by tit-trating (lol) too slowly, I think.
How's it going serenity?

[Ne/Neva Eva]

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sigh. I will figure out how to quote and link in the next 24 hours. It can't be that hard, for god's sake. you people can do it. :H
wish I could use the newbie excuse, but sadly that is far from the case...sorry and thanks for bearing with.

[Isolde]

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[quote=neva eva;1026265][quote=Lowcountryman;1025599] the 'party-man' in me also put on a big fight. I just gave in, believing that the brain would be re-wired anyway.
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yup, I can relate and concur.

For me it hasn't just been my alcoholic mind struggling in the death throes, though. I've also dragged this out in many other ways, too. Most notably, ftr, by tit-trating (lol) too slowly, I think.
How's it going serenity? [ /quote ]

Nev, wanted to help you out with the quoting. It looks like you deleted the "end quote" part of the code for Lowcountryman's post, which is why it didn't show up as a quotation. See above, at the end of your quote that I included. I put spaces in the end quote command so you can see what it's supposed to look like. If you accidentally deleted that out of Low's part of the post, it won't show up as a quote. So the trick is to make sure you've got the beginning and end quote commands after you're done doing whatever editing you want to do.

As for the links, I'm still working on that too! :H I can link stuff, but it shows up in my post as the actual long hyperlink address, rather than being able to name it something else that shows up with the underlined blue that you can click on which takes you to the actual address. Anyway! That's my tech contribution for today. Hope it helps!

[Ne/Neva Eva]

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Thanks, Is!

[seeking_serenity]

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Thank you SO much, friends!

I'm up to 40 mg a day. My only SE's are very mild nausea (it feels like carsickness) and sleepiness during the day, plus a mild but weird metallic taste in my mouth. Nothing horrible, and nothing that keeps me from functioning...just stuff that I happen to notice. Still waiting for the deep sleep, and for the horrible anxiety to subside. Today I noticed that I was 1) terribly anxious (which I'm totally used to) and 2) exhausted. It's really not a good combination. But it's also not severe--and definitely not bad enough that I would even consider quitting my beloved Bac. I know that this will work, and I'm in this for the long haul! Hope you all are doing well.

[Ne/Neva Eva]

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seeking_serenity;1026666 wrote: I know that this will work, and I'm in this for the long haul!

That's the crux of the matter, imho.
Sleepiness is a pain, for sure. Got to be some way around that... Someone said somewhere she developed a fondness for Mountain Dew. I scoffed when I read that! I would never put that much crap in my body! Cheap white wine and beer excepted, of course.

[Sunnyvalenting]

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moving about may help with the drowsiness but be careful to avoid taking the drug 1-2 hours before driving as this is the peak effect. I was able to time my dosing such that I'd get where I was going and then take the dose. Splitting it through the day also helps but you may wish to have slightly more at the PM hours when you typically drank or felt anxious.
Keep posting
Sunny

[seeking_serenity]

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Sunny--thanks! Right now I'm at 40 mg/day. I space it: 10mg a.m./10mg noon/20mg at 6 p.m. I was hoping the 20 last night would knock me out and give me some deep sleep, but alas, I'm just not there yet...

I did the 10 mg this morning and 10 at noon, and I'm definitely feeling them. Very nauseated, almost to the puking point. I think this is my cue not to titrate up again for a while...

[seeking_serenity]

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neva eva;1026826 wrote: That's the crux of the matter, imho.
Sleepiness is a pain, for sure. Got to be some way around that... Someone said somewhere she developed a fondness for Mountain Dew. I scoffed when I read that! I would never put that much crap in my body! Cheap white wine and beer excepted, of course.

lol, neva! I'm the same way!