I had a fondness for the odd line Pbar, but never to extremes, for some strange reason. I've not even thought about it since, but as I say, it wasn't a major issue to begin with.
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Yo Tip! That sucks! Why the suspension? Hope you can hold it all together and give my regards to Mrs Tip - nice to have a barometer around sometimes!
I was only alcoholic when I took baclofen, wondered why it didn't reduce my tobacco consumption. About a quarter of a century (shit, I absolutely did write that!) ago my drug of choice was heroin. Had some crack recently (post switch) and it wasn't bad but didn't have me calling for the next gram. Thinking about it in retrospect it was probably more enjoyable than drinking but after a few days of joining in I got fed up of not sleeping well!
Do you know of any others that have managed to quit using baclofen?Started Baclofen 3/9/10 Hit my switch at 250mg on 21/11/10 Present maintenance dose of 50mg : started drinking after 1 year, upped dose to 80mg and stopped: Tapered to 30mg, started 6 months of drinking, upped dose to 240mg to stop 12/7/12
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I have taken Ecstacy, Speed and Coke in my time. Never got addicted to any of them, but I did use them in large quantities - partly out of fear of being caught with the stuff!
Speed was my drug of choice but I could never obtain a reliable supply, plus I would actually get fed up of being awake/hyper on the stuff. Coke I didn't like at all, but I have reason to believe I was being sold highly cut, or even crushed up paracetamol. Result was I never got anything from it, it was just something that seemed a good idea when I was drunk. I'll admit I've not had any urges in that direction since using Baclofen, but it is/was something that always came with a high amount of risk for me. This being legality, supply and the fact that most dealers around here are a pain in the neck/can't get rid of them types. It also didn't bother me I never had cravings, or longings for the drugs.
Anyway simply not interested, and I think that's because I've simply grown out of them!
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I started doing drugs in high school. I became a pot head. You know, the wake and bake kind of girl. I had started hanging with a bad crowd, and dropped out of all my extra curriculars. I also started dabbling in hallucinogens. This went on for a couple of years. I then decided to go to college, and I pretty much woke up and left the pot head in the dust. My friends were rapidly deteriorating into drug addicts, doing harder drugs by now. I dabbled in everything except heroine and crack. Lots of powder, pills, speed. I just walked away, except for the occasional joint or line. Only, when I was already wasted on booze. Booze tends to make me have poor judgement. :H
I went out after I started baclofen, for a night. The night turned into the next day. Mounds and mounds of snow. To answer your question Pbar, I have never gotten physically addicted.
Come to think of it, I still have some of that powder left from that night. I haven't even thought of it. I think I'm going to flush it. I doubt at this point that I'll ever be drunk enough to use it, or enjoy it again.This Princess Saved Herself
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pBarE,
Very interesting question. I found in my multiple rehabs that people tend to be very faithful to their drug of choice. (DOC in rehab terminology)
I think that goes back to the whole genetics thing where we have some imbalance in our brain chemistry and that drug, whatever it is, satisfies a lack.
My husband doesn't like to drink at all. I recall one time coming home from a trip, I used to meet him at a certain restaurant and play a trivia game at the bar with him. The bartender looked at me and said, "Your husband went wild this week on Wednesday. He had two beers!!"
My husband said that he often noticed that after my first drink, I would "light up and be happy."
Anecdotal at best but sometimes that is the best way to notice symptoms.
All that rambling aside, Baclofen is being studied for cocaine, there is a video on youtube about it, I am sure you have seen it, where the cocaine addict's brain is being imaged while he/she is suffering severe cravings. The brain is lit up with all kinds of colors, being non-medical I have no idea what those colors mean, however, after taking Baclofen, the brain is very close to normal per the doctor and the colors are almost gone. A very powerful visual image.
Can you achieve indifference? I can't answer that. I think it is worth a try. You may very well be the first self-study of complete cocaine indifference in the world. The OA of cocaine addiction and high dose Baclofen.
I do not know enough about cocaine addiction to be of much help. It is a very different etiology than alcohol addiction, where physical and mental are so tied together in the beginning of abstinence. But, once the physical addiction is gone for us alkies, the mental is there in full force. We alkies understand that it is the same for you as it is for us at that point.
I wish you the best in your search and am happy to hear that at least the worst of the mental craving is reduced.
Love,
CindiAF April 9, 2016
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Baclofen works on addiction, not necessarily just alcoholism. It's effect was first noticed in a cocaine addict, Edward Coleman, who reported that it diminished both his high, and his cravings. Luckily he experienced these at only 60mg's otherwise this whole thing may never have gotten off the ground.
Indifference applies across the board.
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Pbar,
I'm *just* an alcoholic, no other loves. (cigs and coffee) I think it's maybe a matter of time, too. Staying at the dose where one is indifferent and trusting that indifference...
Ed's first love is something other than AL, too. He got rid of it 20 years ago, but bac is working for him too...
Time. The great equalizer. And trust, maybe, that it actually does what it says it does.
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Reggie;1099330 wrote: Hi..all these threads about baclofen are great ..but leave me in a state of ..how many times can you dig something up and look at it ..while saying thats not it..lets digg over there ..seriously i don't know whether to ..run..shit..or go blind sometimes
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But it's different people digging different holes, just using the same spade.
Are you saying it would be better to just point everyone to the old threads every time somebody asked a question? Would be a dull forum.
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Hi Reggie. Glad to see you. Please don't delete your posts!
Because this is a new drug we are all learning as we go along and are constantly updating our point of views. The other thing, to answer your question is that newcomers can't honestly be expected to trawl through the old threads, I did but then baclofen was referenced only about 8 months previously and the posts were not so long!Started Baclofen 3/9/10 Hit my switch at 250mg on 21/11/10 Present maintenance dose of 50mg : started drinking after 1 year, upped dose to 80mg and stopped: Tapered to 30mg, started 6 months of drinking, upped dose to 240mg to stop 12/7/12
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PBar For what its worth. I never got into the 'up drugs" much at all. I was always looking to cool down, chill out. The world always clashed and startled me anyway!
I think my recent run in with crack may have been fun because its not something I ever could afford to do a lot off and therefore the novelty factor was there. Plus I'm still missing getting out of my box!.
In some ways heroin/alcohol are at the opposite end of the spectrum from speed and coke.
This article may have relevance or not:
Acute effects of baclofen, a gamma-aminobutyric ac... [Psychopharmacology (Berl). 2002] - PubMed resultStarted Baclofen 3/9/10 Hit my switch at 250mg on 21/11/10 Present maintenance dose of 50mg : started drinking after 1 year, upped dose to 80mg and stopped: Tapered to 30mg, started 6 months of drinking, upped dose to 240mg to stop 12/7/12
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Hi missy - who are you talking to? (Reggie without the avatar?)Started Baclofen 3/9/10 Hit my switch at 250mg on 21/11/10 Present maintenance dose of 50mg : started drinking after 1 year, upped dose to 80mg and stopped: Tapered to 30mg, started 6 months of drinking, upped dose to 240mg to stop 12/7/12
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Hi, Reggie,
Well, this is the meds section, after all. :-)
In General, we rehash the same things over and over again, too.
Hope you are doing well and as Ig said, don't go away.
Love,
CindiAF April 9, 2016
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