Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

[bleep]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

I have no idea what you're talking about Ig, but the dose you're on seems to be taking effect, at long last. What are you on, by the way?

Disappointing about the Oxy, try it as eye-drops? Should at least give you rose-tinted glasses for a little while!

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

Alright, at the risk of being blown to smithereens, I'm going to post here. I'm going to whisper, though. I don't really understand why you're trying the other things? You took bac once, it worked. Without help. Not only that, but you found some piece of mind and a pretty positive outlook for a while.
I'll leave it at that, Ig, and take my answers off the air so to speak.
Wishing you all the best. Glad you had an AF night, and looking forward to hearing the rest.

[ignominious]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

Bleep - You can't have been paying enough attention :H. Basically I think the oxy, the gaba combined with the bac made me unpleasantly high enough to not want or need to drink.

Its been about a week since I started drinking and tonight is my 2nd night AF. I took 60mg today. I don't want to be taking more baclofen than is absolutely necessary and I hope that without the other supplements this will be enough.

Ne, I'm not going to blow you to smithereens just don't cringe in front of me :H Seriously though, I don't trust baclofen as 'the be all to end all' as much as you. Its amazing but it has some flaws, not the least is that I am like a pathfinder in a well known minefield Not sure what you mean by taking your "answers off the air" but the best wishes are reciprocated and one way or another I hope we both get free of the beast for good.

[Bruunhilde]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

Funny, you had 2 AF nights and I went A for two nights despite the gabapentin.

[ignominious]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

How are you doing today Bruun? As Starts so sagely said sobriety is a process. I do believe we get better at doing it, the longer we practice. Hope you're OK.

[ignominious]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

So Starts so sagely said sobriety stages sometimes suck

EDIT: So silly. Sorry

[Bruunhilde]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

But true, alas. I'm fine, just a little alarmed.

[startingover]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

Hope you werent taking the piss Iggy Pop :H

Bruun, hope you are OK.

[ignominious]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

No no, absolutely not Starts. Just after reading back my first post I liked all the s's . Just being juvenile. Really value your input.

Witching hour and at home now so it looks like this will be day 3 AF.

[Bruunhilde]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

Great Ig, AF 3! I'm starting AF2 today (again). I am happy that I'm much better than I was a couple of months ago, and thanks for letting me know it's a path. I think DG said she did this weekly drinking thing on her way to AFness. I'm so happy I can be AF five out of seven days and I'm seeking more progress. Thanks for your concern Ig and Starting. I like the squirrel in his tighty whities!

[ignominious]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

You sound better and I'm so glad that your AF again. It used to devastate me if I had an AF period and then had a single drink - "such a failure might as well wallow in my unworthiness again tonight".

This is the first relapse I've had since hitting my 'switch' and frankly I was terrified that my negative, fatalistic thinking would prevent me from getting back to AF. Baclofen undoubtedly is still key, atm, but I think the memory of the last 6 months made it easier to accept that Ig didn't have to be a drunk. So please that you were able to get back too.

[startingover]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

Its a girl squirrel Bruun. Dont ask :H

Glad you are both feeling more positive. I liken it to riding a bike. Fall off, get back on again, wobble, straighten up, hit the odd pothole, dust yourselves off and eventually you will ride like a champion

[Bruunhilde]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

I like that analogy Starting. Ig, it doesn't devastate me unless I can't stop. I've been able to stop so long as I don't drink hard liquor. Seems that stuff grabs me by the gonads and won't let me go free for anything. The wine is hard enough to get off of, but I've been managing it with you guys and various meds to support me. :thanks::h

[ignominious]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

I was terrified I wouldn't be able to stop before I did some damage. After the damage I could sum up the will power to white knuckle it, all the while knowing that it was only a question of time. Its very empowering to know that higher dose baclofen and other gaba drugs can so quickly come to te rescue. My aim is to work out how to live without the chemical assistance but for now I love bac!

Glad to here about its lack of grip this time Bruun, maybe this drug combo is the answer to that don't give it the acid test just yet though! KOKO Bruun.

[Bruunhilde]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

Maybe, but I'm not convinced. My hold on AF feels very tentative.

On the other hand, I feel like my hold on being AF more than F'd is firm - it's such a milestone to even have one day AF for me, much less five in a row! I have a sense that that might be delusional (ie don't underestimate the enemy) but also that it is a necessary step on the path to AF.

I have some challenges coming up in August including a week of vacation which historically has been a pit of hangover hell and anything but R&R.

Really glad bac is working for you Ig!