Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

Good news, Ig. Glad you had a good trip!
I don't get any happy-happy from drinking either. It's rather pleasant.
I look forward to hearing more about how all the swooshing goes... Hope your toe heals up quickly and well.
xo
Ne

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Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

Good to have you back Ig.

I got you reference to sleepovers and fags, but as usual, my wit deserted me when it was needed most and I failed to come back with a response, witty or otherwise.

If I remember correctly, zyban just made the cravings less intense, and therefore easier to override. For me though, the craving side of smoking has never been the crucial factor that makes quitting so hard. It is the fact that I enjoy the habit, and it's various associations so fucking much that gets me every time. That's why I get to six weeks and fail, long after the cravings have dissipated. I've done this about four times to date.

Currently I'm approaching 3 weeks with no smokes (can't say fags anymore, at least one habit has been cured!) and I can feel my undoing, if any, will be sadness at losing a friend. By the time I get to six weeks, all the reasons for stopping - the hacking cough, the breathlessness, etc - will have faded, and all I'll have are pleasant memories!

Good luck with your attempt!

[ignominious]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

Thanks for the welcome back chaps.

So you did read that Bleep, I feared my rapier wit had got lost in the kerfuffle and therefore had to repeat it. Used to have a school friend who would crack an inane joke which no one laughed at and then repeat it on the assumption that we were all a bit too slow to pick up on his humor ..... hope that's not the case here!

The cravings get me but also the habit is very ingrained having been reinforced 60 times a day for god knows how many years! 3 weeks is a dream, if I can get 3 days I think I'll be on the home stretch. When you feel like smoking one just study the gross picture on the packet (don't know whether it's the same there but here there is often a picture of cancerous lungs or wrinkled people breathing through a neck tube), if you don't get those pm me and I'll tell you that one puff is not worth it!

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Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

Nah, we just get warnings written on the packet. So I followed Bill Hicks' advice and just bought the smokes warning me about the harm to my unborn foetus or low birth weight, etc. Always worked for me!

It's one puff that is always my undoing. I'm hoping this time that the many times I have screwed it up in the past will have taught me something!

[moglor]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

ignominious;1119417 wrote: I'm interested to find out if your friend or other Wellbutrin users experience a decreasing desire to smoke before they quit or only feel the effects of the drug when they quit.

She said no, she didn't experience any decreased desire to smoke, but the Zyban (bupropion) really helped a lot with the depression of quitting. The whole "try quitting on the second week" makes sense, as it takes at least 3-5 days for the effects of bupropion to hit.

I should also add that it took me years before I lost the "desire" to smoke. It's not an easy battle, but it's easier than alcohol.

[ignominious]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

Today's my 10th day and the day that I planned to stop. BUT I have zero confidence that it will work. I just don't feel any different and I've failed at this so many times! I've now set Friday as the last day I will smoke to give me a few more days to psych myself up!

I actually tried not to smoke before my first cup of coffee this morning but only got as far as taking a sip before I lit up. Pathetic ... clearly not in the right mindspace atm.

Thanks for the info Mog. If I manage to do it I suspect I shall be thinking about it for a long time to come, maybe you have more grit than me in that respect. Still I won't start smoking again because I was drunk and thought that one cigarette wouldn't matter! In some ways I think it may be more difficult for me to give up than alcohol because the effects are not so 'in your face'.

[tiptronic_ct]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

ignominious;1120436 wrote: In some ways I think it may be more difficult for me to give up than alcohol because the effects are not so 'in your face'.

Exactly. Sums it up perfectly for me.

I still have some Zyban in a drawer. Maybe I need to try it again. Friends and colleagues who tried it reported that cigarettes tasted bad and that they simply didn't want to smoke any more. It didn't work that way for me - I smoked more than ever while I used it. The idea would be to just use it as an aid in stopping. Maybe in conjunction with patches or gum? (just thinking aloud)

[bleep]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

I reckon it's worth trying everything and anything, all the time. I was forever coming up with various methods to quit, none of which worked. My hope is that if I just keep harassing the habit, eventually something will stick.

I think everyone who has ever tried Zyban for smoking has some left over in a drawer! My wife gave away her leftover stash yesterday for it to go sit in somebody else's drawer!

[ignominious]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

Ha, I won't have any left over I think. I read that you're supposed to give up in the 2nd week so only bought a months worth!

I said Friday would be my last day of smoking but I'm really not prepared for this. I might need a couple of days to adjust my mind. 30 years smoking and still procrastinating ... ha! Maybe I'll be ready in another 30 years!

The best quitting site I've found is WhyQuit - the Internet's leading cold turkey quit smoking resource I think it's worth a look at. I would suggest that we could quit together Tip but he suggest not to rely on anything but yourself. He advocates going cold turkey but I think I will carry on with the Zyban and make use of the nicotine gum which is at the back of some drawer somewhere! Anyway, there's a lot of information on there whether I take the advice or not.

[LadyLush]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

[QUOTE=ignominious;1113677]Sort of looking forward to the opposite effect. Never been a fan of amphetamines but it feels like that's what I need atm. Something to rev me up a bit. We'll see.

Ig,

I hope I am answering to the Wellbutrin effect. I have been taking it for about 2 weeks now. It has definitely taken care of the somnolence I get with the Baclofen. I have never smoked in my life so I can't help you there. I will say if you want to lose weight the "speed" effect is definitely there.

Lady

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Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

Ig, I'm sure I was told to keep taking Zyban at least two months - it's the cravings it helps with, and they are still there after you finish your first months supply.

I also fear if you wait for the perfect day to stop, it may never arrive. Each day seems just as shitty as the last when it comes to stopping, so it is perhaps better to just bite the bullet!

[ignominious]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

Well it's Saturday morning and your advice nudged me to do what I already know I had to do, which was stop waiting for the perfect time. So thanks Bleep.

It's now Saturday morning and I've been up for 2 1/2 hours without having a cigarette.

No fucking around this time. I've stopped smoking. That's it!

Lady, don't seem to be getting anything out of Wellbutrin at all but that's from my perspective. Probably notice what I felt when I come of the drug in about 2 weeks!

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Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

Best of luck Ig! It is a very worthy endeavour. I am just starting to feel the benefits of quiting - my breathing is a little easier, and my constant cough is starting to fade, so at last it is starting to feel worth it.

We will be cheering you on from the sidelines here, come on Ig!!

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

Reggie;1121692 wrote: Igg you must be 6 months alcohol sober free now..any way good job...hope you are finally a little bit happy with your life ...tawny frog posted this on the Australian thread ..I reckon it summs up the post switch feeling ..does for me any way

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRzcCbjQ_5I[/video]]YouTube - ‪Wile E. Coyote finally gets the Road Runner‬‏

:H:H:H

Thanks.

Edit: ('course, I did it the exact opposite way. but still. point taken.)

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

REGGIE! WHY DOES YOUR SIGNATURE SAY YOU ARE NO LONGER POSTING???