Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

Chantix=Wellbutrin Right?
Different packaging, same drug.

[redhead77]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

Chantix and Wellbutrin are different drugs. And different packaging. One is an antidepressant and one isn't. Chantix can cause suicidal thoughts and rage in some. Not just the usual bitchiness that occurs when one quits smoking.

[redhead77]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

I'm a mild asthmatic too Reg. That's why I have to get off these fags! It's a necessity. Smoking reefer used to make me wheeze too. As I type this I hope I shouldn't have copied and pasted it to respond. I know your posts disappear. :H Ne, I think you were thinking of Wellbutrin vs Zyban. Those are the same drug in different packaging.

[redhead77]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

Oh shit. Did your post disappear already Reg? Did I imagine it?

[bleep]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

Dope is actually a brochial dilator, although smoking it probably reduces any potential benefit in this regard!

[ignominious]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

Rudy good luck with your plan for gradual reduction. don't know if it will be effective but what do I know, right?! I'm now motivated to get smoke free before you, thanks.

FTR Wellbutrin/Zyban has been associated with suicidal thoughts as well as Chantix but it was an AD that I've been thinking of trying out. Several people here have had good things to say about it so when I found out it was also used for smoking cessation I had to give it a whirl. Reg; I don't want to become a self medicating hypochondriac / mad scientist type but at this point in my life, post switch, drugs have suddenly become a much more attractive proposition!! Also btw Moglor waas taking wellbutrin/zyban/bupropien with high dose bac with no problems

Red and Reg, Cheroots fyi are a mixture of tobacco and other herbs wrapped in a banana leaf. I should say, 'part of a banana leaf' otherwise they would be the size of a baseball bat: which might have some appeal if it was dope but not so much as a plain old nicotine delivery device!

One more thing about the Quomen (that's Asian for Wellbutrin/Bupropien/Zyban) is that I'm down to my last 10 pills and wont be able to get anymore without going to Thailand! I think that's 2 a day while I get the first 72 hours smoke free under my belt and then the rest of the week on 1 a day to taper down! I don't think they have had an effect on my mood, however I'm not feeling so bleak which I have attributed to my baclofen reduction (been at 50mg for a couple of days now) and some return of functionality at work. It seems very difficult to me to know where to attribute mood swings, especially when I am not so comfortable owning my feelings.

Bleep, its always that one innocuous little puff. This time around I am not going to have it but I will have one full day (24 hours) of smoking if I can remain abstinent for 1 month.

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

Ah, yes. I can't keep all my cessation drugs straight! Glad to be reminded, though. Definitely don't want to invite any thoughts like that my way!

The smokes have got to go for me too, Ig. I'll be paying attention to learn from what you do. Hope you'll continue to post about it.

[RudyB]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

well, ig, you're on! i'm only half serious about it, but the challenge to beat you to the quit is a bit of an inspiration. good ol competitive american i am.

i'm smoking even when i don't really want to. had 3 (!) on my am commute (45 min). ergh. and 2 on the way home. then 2 before picking up son. now about to sneak another.

but i didn't have one while on mwo this morn.

boring enough for you folks?! anyway, it's helpful to chart progress (or lack thereof).

ne, wow, welcome aboard the no-puff-puff train!

[ignominious]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

My plans for the Wellbutrin, cessation synchronisation are already fucked! I didn't manage to go smoke free yesterday but minimised to 1 cig and 1 cheroot, now I have 8 pills left and a trans Atlantic challenge.

Chart your progress Rudy, but what is your normal, usual consumption per day? Yesterday you got through about 10 right? The only active forum for smoking cessation I've seen requires you to be, smoke/nicotine/facilitating drug, free for 72 hours before you can join.

Don't know if Ne is aboard or just going to provide a commentary. Rudy, you may be the first documented bacer to slay 2 birds with one stone!

[RudyB]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

thanks for your encouragement, ig. i'd love to go down in history as something! let it be that. worth a try. not gonna knock it.

yeah but, ig, isn't one cig and one cheroot progress for you? isn't that great?! my usual consumption used to be several a day (like 7 or so). never so many on my commute, until the past couple of months. until bac, really, when i started to smoke more (a pack of 20 now lasts me maybe two days) and drink less. which is ironic, because drinking always made me smoke more. now i just have a sore tongue with which to taste my bewilderment.

ig, good luck with your trans-atlantic trip. do you like snus? that might help, as might the niacinamide.

i don't want to join a smoke-cessation site. i like it here. so if you don't mind, i'll stick around and chart this part of my journey.

[ignominious]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

ignominious;1132628 wrote: now I have 8 pills left and a trans Atlantic challenge.

RudyB;1132633 wrote:
ig, good luck with your trans-atlantic trip. do you like snus? that might help, as might the niacinamide.

If you're referring to yourself as a 'trip', which you undoubtedly are; thanks!

Yeah you're right Rudy, what I smoked yesterday, is not in the same ball park as my 3 pack/day habit. So yes, making progress but according to WhyQuit - the Internet's leading cold turkey quit smoking resource, I am just prolonging the suffering and need to be free of any and all types of nicotine to be making progress. I sort of agree as the 2 smokes yesterday were so good that they just reinforced the addicted concept that smoking makes me feel good.

So no snus or gum or nicotine for me today!! Good luck Rudy.

[ignominious]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

Well I don't know what's happened with you Rudy but this is the morning of my 4th day smoke free. Yay!!! Again! Hope the bac going well and you're near to your turning point!

I'll hold off declaring another victory for the mother country until I hear from you!

[RudyB]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

awww shucks, ig. ...but mostly GOOD FOR YOU! FOUR DAYS! WHOOO HOOOO!

i think the mother country has indeed won a victory. i've not made any progress a'tall. rat's danglee doo. nothing good has happened w me, except that i've made it to and from work for yet another day (no small miracle). and my need for naps hasn't interfered w job performance (at least not noticably so). in a few days, the job will be a bygone reality, and then maybe i can succeed at major life changes, such as quitting the burned-tobacco sticks. meanwhile, ergh, i will continue w status quo.

can't wait to post a victory. please wish me luck.
rudy bee gone w the cigarillos.

[bleep]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

I feel unable to chime in on a smoking thread, other than to say well done Ig. For me, when my resolve crumbles, it does so in style, so I need another couple of weeks to build it back up again.

[Murphyx]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

Bleep, so you're white-knuckling it? Or are you using any sort of NRT?