Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

[bleep]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

Bruun, that's extremely and profoundly true, thanks. It's what I'm trying to deal with as well, in my own, sadly unprofound manner. I miss the release that booze offered me. I find that when I get pissed on 300, it's no longer the same. I still do it, every now again, searching for the same mindless yeeha, but it's not there anymore.

I decided a while ago to go for therapy, but have had no joy as yet in finding somebody. I think it's going to take a special mindset - they have to accept what baclofen has done, for starters, and so far only my wife, who has seen it it's effect daily, has believed it. My parents as well, but we all know that they don't count!

In the meantime, I sit with no outlet. I don't really think that therapy will cut it either, but it's the best idea I've come up with so far. I'm also hoping that time will sort some of the shit out. Practice, as shit and corny as it sounds, at being normal, may make it simpler to deal with life. Fingers are crossed.

Ig, I wasn't poking fun at you with the cynical bit, I was just pointing out that the SE's fade

[ignominious]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

bleep;1151485 wrote:

Ig, I wasn't poking fun at you with the cynical bit,

I know you weren't Bleep. It was just my cunning way of revealing a part of my grotty psyche to the world without it sounding like a cry for help

I also missed the ability to turn the angst switch off. The booze is a quick release valve but I guess we need to take life another way so the pressure doesn't build up in the first place. Bleep when I write something like the previous sentence I wish I was more like you. I sound too profound and fake to me and to others. We all have our axe to grind.

[ignominious]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

Back to my egocentric thread!

I drank last nigh but not a lot. I was able to walk out of the bar after a measly 3 beers and although the drinking feeling hit me again once I got home, I was quite satisfied after 1 glass of wine.

I am feeling an immense sense of relief that the drugs appear to be kicking in again. Yesterday was what, my 3rd or 4th day after increasing my dose. Will take another 80mg today (in the morning - before my witching hour) and let you all know what happens later.

Bruun and Bleep, I found some gabapentin and some oxytocin vials. I took 300mg (sounds a lot compared to baclofen but its only one pill) of gabapentin and very quickly (1 hour) found myself feeling dizzy, happy, communicative, peaceful. It was about 2 hours after my second dose of 40mg baclofen so unsure as to what was causing the effect. Certainly feel that the gabapentin, at the very least, magnified the effects of the baclofen. Not sure if I shall take one today as I like to know which effect is due to which medication but certainly will be testing it out when I get back on an even keel.

Oxytocin! I've got vials which are used IV Any ideas how I should take them rather than shooting up. Thinking that snorting the liquid is the way to go. Any ideas? Keen to try them, especially after the good reaction to gabapentin but will probably wait a few days 'til I'm hopefully not drinking.

[ignominious]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

Just checking in. 80mg today with no SEs so 3 hours after my last dose I took some gabapentin.

Still I went to the bar and had 5 beers, less than yesterday but more than the 0 I was planning on. I could have carried on drinking but I was able to make use of my brain enough to stop sfter I got a little buzz started. Not happy with and honestly scared about the frailty and fickleness of my sobriety.

[Bruunhilde]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

Hi there Ig!

Cool you got the oxy and gabapentin, here's my two bits. The oxy you might be able to snort or take sublingually. I'd snort it first, seems you'd be less likely to lose some in your GI tract.

The gabapentin gave me a buzz the first time, but never again after that first time. Oh well, it did have other effects that were good as you know. The "less angst" bit, which you call peaceful and calm. I didn't feel that with the baclofen I'd been on for months, but maybe together they work. I didn't take gabapentin yesterday to try and reset, but I did take 25mg bac and xanax to sleep. Anyways, very interested to see how it goes for you with the gabapentin. So far, so good!

[bleep]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

The "frailty and fickleness of my sobriety" is directly tied, at this point, to your low dose. Go up to the correct dose, and you'll quickly see that it's no longer frail or fickle! And although you don't like living with chemicals in you, surely 300mg's of baclofen is better than 300ml'l of whiskey on a daily basis?

As to how to take the oxy - alas, I've no idea. Let me know if you manage to work it out, please!

[startingover]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

Iggy Pop, just wanted to say I was thinking about you and sending you strength. Getting sober is not always a smooth process as you are finding out. But I am sure you will find your strength and resolve again. Its just being a bit elusive at the mo :l

[startingover]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

Oh and I would probably rub it into my gums if it didnt taste too rank

[ignominious]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

bleep;1152297 wrote: The "frailty and fickleness of my sobriety" is directly tied, at this point, to your low dose. Go up to the correct dose, and you'll quickly see that it's no longer frail or fickle! And although you don't like living with chemicals in you, surely 300mg's of baclofen is better than 300ml'l of whiskey on a daily basis?

As to how to take the oxy - alas, I've no idea. Let me know if you manage to work it out, please!

We agree on the why Bleep. I've doubled my dose over the last few days and think I'm about to stop. If we disagree its about the best way forward for long term freedom.

Your faith that 300mg of baclofen daily for the rest of your life is not a problem is obvious but not a view I share. Not that I'm saying you're wrong, maybe just a question of how much inhibition in is healthy.

I've decided to snort it, amyl nitrate style. Here goes.

[ignominious]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

Ho Brunn and Starts, missed you on the last look but thanks for your thoughts.

I tried snorting it but it doesn't vaporise at low remperatures like amyl so I sort of poured it into my nostrils. Didn't like the feeling of it running down the back of my throat so put my head forward and let some of it run down my chin instead. TMI? There was a bit left so I put it in my mouth and tried not to swallow.

Nothing to report. I'll go to bed soon, to give it a fair run for its money, and stare into my wife's eyes!

[Bruunhilde]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

Hmmmm, no effect at all? What is the sold for purpose then? Is it a gimick? Let us know how it went in bed. :ey:

[ignominious]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

Morning! I wouldn't say, "no affects" but nothing very definite, maybe felt a bit more luvey, maybe placebo? The stuff I got is used to induce labour but I didn't get any pain at all!

Funny that you should say you only got a buzz the first time. I think it was the gabapentin that had me almost stumbling around at work a couple of days ago but yesterday I just seemed to get more chatty. I wonder if that's due to rapid tolerance increase.

[ignominious]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

I got fairly strong SEs after my morning 40mg: so much so that I actually have only taken 30mg this evening. I also was at home during my witching hour, so the combination has meant that I haven't had a drink. Applause!

I also didn't take any gabapentin or oxytocin. I suspect they may have contributed to the 'rush' I felt this morning.

[Bruunhilde]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

Applause!! If you didn't take gabapentin or oxy then what combination made you AF? I'm missing a piece of the puzzle here.

[ignominious]

Sobriety. From one who knows. A sober point of view.

Thanks Bruun.

"I also didn't take any gabapentin or oxytocin. I suspect they may have contributed to the 'rush' I felt this morning."

I didn't write that very clearly. What I meant to say is that due to the combination having bashed the cravings on the head and being responsible (in combination) for my fairly debilitating SEs I have decided to just try baclofen today as it's the drug I know best.

My personal opinion of al these drugs is that the half life is very misleading and that one gets the effects for longer than the half life would suggest.

To put it another way, I 'switched' in the morning and during the rest of the day I was overshooting my switch. Something like that.

Again fairly incoherent but I hope you get the gist.