My Bac Adventure

[Isolde]

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Sounds like you are doing great, Grommet! AL intake down 50-60%, slow and steady titration of 10-20mgs a week, and slowly swapping out one brand for another - you are on the right track on all fronts!! :goodjob:

At least your wife doesn't mind the bac snoring as much as the drunk snoring! I got the snores for a little while when I was getting the super deep bac sleep. That hasn't happened for awhile though, and I'm not sure if I'll go back to sleeping like a rock as I titrate down now. In any case, if I go back to sawing logs in my sleep, it won't bother anyone except the dogs! :H

Glad to hear you're doing so well! Keep it up and keep us posted as you go. Happy New Year to you as well!

[Grommet]

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Thanks Is.

The dog doesn't mind the snoring. He is just glad the "wind" SE I experienced early on has gone away. He was upset that I always blamed it on him :H

[taw]

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Grommet how are you doing?

[Grommet]

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Hey Taw, thanks for asking. I forgot I had this thread out there and its time for an update!

I was on 120 mg all last week and just bumped up to 135 mg yesterday. The AL cravings are down and this is for real - no way a placebo effect.

The past few weeks I have been AF M-Th. While I have been drinking on the weekends, the amount is less than pre-Bac. Sunday I truly had no desire to drink. But the wife lit a fire, we did not have to drive anywhere, there was Playoff football on tv, and all was right with the world. So what did I do? You guessed it! (aargh!). Not a heavy night - but I wish I tried just a smidge of will power.

SE's have been nothing out of the ordinary and not problematic. Some somnolence during the day, stuffy nose, occassional light ringing in the ears. I have had some very cool, vivid dreams - no nightmares. It has gotten to the point where I am actually excited at bedtime - looking forward to the next adventure (nothing x-rated yet, sorry to report...hopefully something with pool girls soon?).

I have had some ocassional depression, but nothing like the bout I had about a month ago. Yet still more than ordinary. I am starting to think that this is a natural part of the process.

Pre-Bac I would just take whatever can of shit I was dealing with that particular day and kick it into tomorrow with a bottle of wine. The problem was the can of shit kept getting bigger and I needed a stronger leg (ie bottle of wine plus a beer, then plus two beers, etc).

Now that I am clear headed most of the week I have to deal with that can of shit now. But on Friday I still need a swift boot to kick it to Monday. Oh well, its a work in process I suppose.

In my first post on this thread I promised I was not going to worry about how high up the mg scale I would need to go to hit my switch. But I am starting to think about it more and more. The 2.5 mg to 4 mg per kilo range that OA mentions would mean 295 mg to 475 mg for me. I really do not want to go above 300 mg.

My solution for now is just to titrate up really slow - 15 mg per week. That means 11 more weeks before I get to 300 mg. This may not be the best route, but it gives me some comfort for now.

[taw]

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Glad you are making progress Grom!!! Sounds like you are on the path I will soon be following!

Today will be first day at 30 mg....had an AF day yesterday...daily consumption is down...hoping for a few AF days together...

Hope your bac journey keeps going where you need/want it to go! Keep us posted!

[bleep69]

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Grommet,

I too have had some really cool dreams, it's great. I know what you mean about getting exited at bed time (when I'm soberish, the dreams tend to get dampened significantly if I'm pissed). Bring on the pool girls!

Encouraging to hear your success so far, thanks for posting.

taw, unreal you are seeing results at such low doses, must help being so tiny!!

[Grommet]

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Thanks Bleep and Taw.

Bleep, I agree, the dreams are much more vivid soberish. Last night the pool girls were just arriving but my wife woke me up - said I was snoring. Yeah, right!

Taw, it took me a couple of weeks before I could put together more than one day AF. It did take some willpower, don't get me wrong. But now it is becoming easier and easier.

Best wishes!

[Bruunhilde]

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I'm jealous of you guys, you're not dysfunctional due to the "I just smoked a chubby" high and general mind fu*k that some of us enjoy. I always disliked pot, and now I feel like I'm on it 24.7. haha, reminds me in high school, I tried to use pot instead of AL to reduce my calorie intake, and I was miserable! Ug.

Going to go clean the pool on my lunch hour, the first nice day in a while and I'm going to make the pool pretty!

[Guest]

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Bruunhilde

That's exactly how I felt, except that I could never smoke the stuff. It hurt my lungs, probably because I'm a non-smoker. I used to eat the stuff instead and yes bac felt very similar to the effect too.

[redyornot]

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Hi all,

This is my first posting. I went to my trusted and outstanding primary doctor who delivered my two children today after finding this website and reading this book yesterday. I printed out the literature and took it in, made my confessions (and told her I'd been untruthful for years), and she was skeptical when I told her I hoped to become an occasional and moderate drinker at some pint. She gave me some advice on abstinence, the placebo affect, drugs affecting people in different ways, alcohol and it's effects on the brain in even small doses, and was very accusatory of this book and website since they are profiting off the tapes and packages. However, I was persistent and told her I wanted to try Topamax and she said she had no problem with giving me the prescription after explaining how it worked and she took down the name of this site and the Lancet study article I brought in. I will be picking it up after work today, along with the supplements and the hyno CD's should arrive soon. I hope this isn't a load of crap. She did say I probably wouldn't make it up to the suggested dosage due to the side effects. She said I would be "ditsy" or "flitty" or something along those lines. She agreed when I said, I'm sure it's no worse than how I am after drinking 5+ glasses of wine the night before. I will let you know how this turns out for me.

[ThirdMan]

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That sucks redyornot. Doctors can have a persuasive ability, because we tend to trust them, especially a doctor who has delivered your children! But my years dealing with doctors for anxiety attacks and now drinking has proven that they are completely inconsistent and subjective. For example, I have a doctor in LA, as do several people on this site, that prescribes me 200 mg a day baclofen. And it works like nothing ever has before. So if that doctor can't get on board with you you might have to find a different doctor, and I'm not making any money by telling you this.

[Bruunhilde]

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Agree with Third. Hang in there Ready, we are all fighting this fight and we can help you with support and our own stories, which are very helpful. I don't have much of a story to share yet (but hope to soon), but many people here do, and if you keep reading the posts, and go ahead and create your own thread so we can all respond to your questions as you progress or have issues, you'll do fine. That's our hope!

[Grommet]

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This post is for the benefit of the Lurkers out there who are considering taking Baclofen. I was one of you for waaaaay too long.

Last night I was AF. I know this does not sound like such a big deal. But it is a HUGE deal to me for two reasons:

1) It has been 7 years and 10 months since the last time I was AF on a Friday night;

2) Most important, while it did take some will power, it was not the white knuckle brawl with AL cravings kind of willpower. Rather, it was the breaking a bad habit kind of will power - like trying to quit biting your nails or picking your nose in the car.

I first learned of Baclofen and MWO in September 2009. I did not start Bac until November 2010 . When I was lurking I thought for the longest time that the folks on MWO, while incredibly intelligent and witty, may be benefiting in part from a kind of group think therapy and support network. I was a cynic.

And I was wrong (but not about the intelligent and witty thing ). Bac is for real.

This post is not a "hurray, yeah-me!" post. I just want to provide that extra motivation for you fence sitters. If you are considering taking Bac, my advice is short and to the point:

JTTDP!

(Just Take The Damn Pills!)

Peace, Grom

[Ne/Neva Eva]

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That's so fantastic, Grom. Congratulations!
I really enjoy your posts, especially the cat and the lights, ftr.

(jtingtdp! my new bye-line!)

[taw]

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Good for you Grom!

Way to go! Keep it up!