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    #16
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    Tittle tattle

    Thanks for the feedback, NE, Sunny, Anon, Low, Ig, everyone..... it gives me hope. Much needed today, since the last two days I've spent in bed sick (can do that on weekends so I do) and today was extra horrible.

    Bleep, I did that exercise ALOT last night and spent today vomiting. BLEEP!!!! And I broke a promise to Fletch (my dog) that I'd take him to dogpark. I was too dizzy to drive and all the vomiting would have been a sure car crash. I am trying to look at the silver lining, which is a renewed fear of the AL.

    By the way, Nev, thanks for the contra-indications. I'm sure my melatonin isn't helping the situation, although it did help keep me sleeping when I'd otherwise be insomniacing.

    By the way, asking all and any women out there, when I really poison myself good, like this weekend, and get a hangover that would kill a horse, I sometimes bleed *down there*. Do you? I also verge on the brink of a bladder infection, I can feel my urethra do something bad, and I get out the cranberry juice and usually can avoid it blossoming into a full fledged infection. Do you have this happen? I feel like I'm falling apart.

    Wish my effin' RX would arrive. I'm unable to tit up until it gets here, for fear of needing to tit down. So far I've received one and two are outstanding, but I've only got two boxes left of the first one.....

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      #17
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      Oh, Fletch...I am so sorry you had a bad weekend...I have never had the bleeding issue but after a good bender I feel on the verge of a bladder infection...drink lots of water or gatorade if you have it...

      Wish I could do something for you....I know, way too familiarly how you feel!!! I am sending you a huge hug!!!

      Why not try and get some sleep and start tomorrow anew?
      "What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us." Ralph Waldo Emerson

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        #18
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        Thanks Taw, I just got up, I've been in bed all day and it's still early here on the west coast. I'm hoping to stay up til ten so I can sleep well tonight, since I haven't been able to sleep since 4am, I've been too sick. Now I'm feeling better - I swear, it was magic, I was drinking water and insoluable fiber, because it usually settles my stomach, but I was barfing even that until I had some celtic salt in my water, to replace the electrolyes. I felt better in minutes, and haven't been nauseaus since and my headache has reduced quite a bit. Thank God. I was getting really worried, my throat, guts, and colon seemed to be melting. I thought from dehydration, thus the salts. Luckily I don't feel well enough to drink tonight.

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          #19
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          Fletch;1038131 wrote: Thanks everyone, including Lo0p, you're writing a book, right? You're so verbose and you have tracked your progress so closely, and you have such a good story to tell ....
          I hope that means verbose in a good way...:blush:

          I would love to write a book. But I'm not sure about exactly what. There are a lot of meatballs (topics) floating around in this bowl of noodles and sauce (my brain). :nutso:

          anon;1038481 wrote:
          Well i took the bac last night and won my category in a 10 k race today. Enough said!
          Could you please repost that in my bac and exercise thread https://www.mywayout.org/community/f2...ise-39134.html? For my sole benefit, so that I can access it easily 6 months or 2 years from now.

          You're still on a very low dose correct?
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            #20
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            Fletch;1038847 wrote:
            Bleep, I did that exercise ALOT last night and spent today vomiting. BLEEP!!!! ...And I broke a promise ... I feel like I'm falling apart.
            Oh, sister, my very first MWO friend. I'm sorry. Just take.the.pills. (consistently and rationally helps a great deal, ftr.) It gets soooo much better. And easier.
            Follow sunnyv's advice and lay off the sauce if you can. Be careful about other stuff that might get in the way.

            Yes, my menses are way out of whack. Drinking heavily made them irregular. I don't know to what I can attribute the current hormonal chaos. I'm taking the supps to the best of my ability, and feel great otherwise. I'll see the doc about it if it doesn't square itself away.

            You don't have to channel powerful Fletch right now. No need to diet, exercise, tackle the chaos all around... You can eat cheeseburgers and drink HFCS and sit on your ass in front of the tv. Fletch (the canine) will be fine in the backyard.
            My experience is that taking care of the one thing (boooooooooze) is opening up the possibility for taking care of the others. My dog is tired but happy, I'm about to pay a bunch of bills, (grrr) and figure out what I'm going to do tonight instead of sit in the same dent I've made on the couch.
            Hence the new avatar. :H
            :l

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              #21
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              Thanks L and N,

              I just got a new RX filled, delivered, opened and down the hatch! I went from 40mg to 50mg yesterday and in spite of not drinking last night, I am having what feels like a huge allergy attack. I'm thinking it's the bac, based on Isolde's and others' descriptions of SEs.

              I have pressure in my head like a bad sinus headache, only without much pain, mostly pressure. I am dehydrated, my lips and throat and the top of my palette are dry or throbbing. My ears are buzzing. And, I've been on 40 mg for a month, so upping the 10mg seems like it shouldn't do this to me.

              And by the way, after I posted about the celtic salts, I regressed, felt awful all night, nauseaus, etc. Ug. A good reminder for me for what this forum and the pills are all about - gaining some control and getting a life.

              Guess I've been hyjacking my own thread. That's okay, I guess it turns out it was redundant anyways. out:

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                #22
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                Fletch;1039807 wrote:
                I have pressure in my head like a bad sinus headache, only without much pain, mostly pressure. I am dehydrated, my lips and throat and the top of my palette are dry or throbbing. My ears are buzzing. And, I've been on 40 mg for a month, so upping the 10mg seems like it shouldn't do this to me.
                Yep. I think that's an SE. I certainly experienced it. There are times when I lay down to sleep that I feel like my body is vibrating too. I imagined it's like what it feels like if you live next to a train track. It used to scare me, now it's kind of fun. :H

                Someone pointed out (Low?) that increases at the low doses are more significant. Not sure I'd agree, exactly, but I do know that each increase has changed what's going on for me in terms of SEs, good and bad.
                You can do whatever you want with your thread. It's yours! Keep it going? Let it die? Revisit it, or ignore it completely. Someone older and wiser told me that. Made me feel a lot better about putting it all out there. That and anonymity. One of our first 'conversations' was about the fact that it's all been said before on here, remember? It has, but it bears repeating!
                :l

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                  #23
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                  Thanks Neva,

                  You're such a dork. A sweet kind dork, but still..... FUN???? Your body is vibrating, and that's fun when you're trying to sleep? It feels like DT's on acid. Not that I know what acid is like.

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                    #24
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                    We have oil heat in our house. Each morning at about 5:00 am the warm water starts percolating through the radiators. With each "pop" and "ping" my whole body tingles. A little disconcerting at first, but now strangely enjoyable.
                    Good judgment comes from experience; experience comes from bad judgment.

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                      #25
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                      Fletch,

                      The pressure. Seems like it is a pretty common thing. I experienced it a long time. For me it was the worst about 2 hours after I took a dose. I fooled with frequencies and dosages, but it never really disappeared so i figured it was part of the deal. Felt like a 'band around my head' (I think I stole those words from another member here).

                      I had also dry skin, bad skin. Drank lots of water. I finally turned to 'nivea', kind of lotion stuff. Made it better, at least for my face.

                      Titrate up when you feel its ok, or at least when you got used to the pressure.

                      Noise/buzz, yep...You're not alone in that one. Another member described it as that the televison or radio was on at the neighbours. She/he let it in, and finally the noise/buzz changed into a pretty song

                      Grommet. I'm with you here. First some SE's seems strange. And after a while they become part of you and you can 'play' with them. Like working on an assembly-line. You don't like it, after a while it's kind of your playmate. (but that is an example for blue-collared alkies of course)

                      Low

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                        #26
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                        I am such a dork.
                        The SEs are sort of welcome when you get used to them. It means it's working!
                        A lame analogy: Right before I fall asleep I sometimes feel like I'm falling or something. You know? Sometimes I jerk awake, intent on reading the book or whatever, sometimes I just drift into neverland. That's how the SEs are for me now. Sometimes they're jerky, sometimes they're peaceful. They're really not troublesome. (Knock wood.)
                        The vibrating thing is definitely kind of fun.

                        We've got steam heat and the damn radiators clicking and hissing are driving me crazy, though. It's the only thing that still startles me. We turned off the ones in our bedroom because I can't sleep with them on!

                        Glad you turned the corner. I promise you that it gets easier. Just buy some pill boxes, will you? And have enough bac!
                        xxoo
                        PS. Sorry I'm so cheery. It annoys even me. :H

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                          #27
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                          Ne, love your new av, by the way, keep meaning to say so.

                          I get the welcoming of SEs, because I imagine if you felt nothing, you would have less confidence that it's a powerful med and on its way to the switch. But still, I really wish they were less.

                          I know you went through hell your first attempt or two. Was it going to Dr Levin that gave you the strength to power through?

                          Honestly, the ADD that comes with the somnolecence is about to ruin my ability to succeed at work. I'm petrified of my boss calling me up and quizzing me on my sales pipeline! I can barely keep my vision on the names and numbers, much less recall any details.

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                            #28
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                            Fletch, I think it does get better when you go up. Once I hit 90mg/day or so, the SE's quit being sucky, and started becoming pleasant. I've described the feeling to others as being "pleasantly stoned." Things don't bother me as much. I am not quite as quick on the uptake sometimes, but Bac hasn't affected my work performance very much. I quite enjoy being at the dose I'm at, for the most part. Now if I can just get to the switch! I have faith, especially since the good dr. told me that it will happen whether I plan for it or not. It will just happen. Bac is that powerful.:h

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                              #29
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                              Thanks SS & Low, I really appreciate your experience and your sharing, making the effort to help me. :l really!!!

                              The more input on the SEs I get, the better I feel able to deal with them. If you ever feel your input is extraneous, think again! We need more and more info on how people like you deal, and how it affects your life.

                              :thanks:

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                                #30
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                                Hello,

                                Fletch I share your dismay at the SE's.. I've had a crap time with them and nearly gave up on bac but lately it's been a bit better.. i think time helps amongst other things.

                                Does anyone feel that their hands get really hot and throbby and their veins feel kind of baggy?
                                Damn I know that sounds wierd but I'm worried it might be symptoms of a heart attack!
                                Sheesh!!
                                LOL

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