i had a bac through.....

[taw]

i had a bac through.....

just cannot seem to get any AF time...maybe I need to up my doses...only on 50 since Saturday but does not seem to be working...not sure what to do!

Just frustrated! thought I'd be seeing some results by now, I guess!

[Lowcountryman]

i had a bac through.....

Taw,

If you don't know what to do and you're drinking on 50mg/d, there's only one thing you can do: take the pills and titrate up. That's just the way it is imo.

Low

[taw]

i had a bac through.....

I am uping to 60 today, but I am wondering...I don't take my first dose until around noon...then my next dose on my way home and last dose around bed...does it get out of my system then have to start over? Should it be more spread out during the day? I put off the first dose because my mornings at work are so crazy and I have to deal with money and can't have the fog....guess I need less in my while I am awake and less when I am sleeping?

[Bruunhilde]

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That's exactly what I've been wondering, Taw, since I can't take them during the day, I can only take them after work. I take them if I wake at night too, but not past 1am. Since the worst SE's don't wear off for half a day or more with me, I can't afford to take them after 1am. I think it must be partly my hypertensives, because I really can't stay awake. Last night, I had one beer and 25mg of bac, and fell asleep at 6pm with a book open in my hand, woke up at 8pm, read til midnight, took another 25mg. Slept til 7am straight. Apparently with my mouth hanging wide open, because drymouth reigned and I could hardly croak a "hullo" to my dog and cat. That must be attractive to see. The might yaw. The yawn unfinished. But at least that means I'm not grinding, which is thanks to bac. Another good thing is I slept through my witching hours.
:bow
I haven't even had one dose since then, and I'm practically asleep at the keyboard, probably would be now if I hadn't had a protein shake an hour ago when I felt it getting bad.

[Lowcountryman]

i had a bac through.....

Taw,

I don't know how heavily the SE's are hitting on you. On WMO there used to be a lot of info about the half-time of Bac, etc. I think it's important to have at least Bac in your brains the whole day.
Maybe smaller doses but more frequently through the day (like 10/10/10/10 and before you go to bed hit take the 20). At least you'll have 24/7 Bac in brain *yummy* BUT, everybody has very different opinions and nobody really knows anything.

But it's quite simple. If you begin with the Bac-journey, you'll have to go to a high dosage (of course: some don't have to, but most of us have to). Taking the pills is easy, handling the SE's is more difficult. But you have to manage the SE's, maybe get over some annoying stuff, and titrate up to have succes. No pain no gain It's no use starting Bac and then abandon the ship because the 'normal' SE's come marching in.

It's a whole different story if weird/strange/scary things are happening, but most of 'us' experienced insomnia, tiredness, forgetting everything, being a zombie. I think it's pretty well 'documented' over here. So, if you can't find a way to get over these things, or you just can't have this SE's because of your job or other circumstances, then do not titrate up and also don't be surprised that you are still drinking.

I know, it's been said so many times: everybody is different. Imho the journey is not about taking the pills, it's about overcoming the Se's. Find a way to manage them, and you're home free.

And don't blame yourself for having a drink. Pointless and won't get you anywhere.

Low (no md at all!)

[taw]

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Thanks Low!

The SE's are not enough to make me quit....forgetting, tired, THIRST...nothing unbearable...I will try taking smaller does every couple hours...I guess I had hoped I would be the special case with a low does but am in it for the long haul and prepared to do whatever it takes...

It has only been a couple weeks...just anxious for the end result! As Road reminds me I did not get here over night...It will not get fixed over night!

What dose are you on now, Low? I don't mean to whine and complain....sucking it up and dosing up! Whatever it takes!!!

[Lowcountryman]

i had a bac through.....

Hi Taw,

Since yesterday I'm back on 125. Just to see if it still works as a happy-pill

Btw: during the journey I sent my psychiatrist pretty long and detailed weekly updates about my Baclofen progress. Yesterday I read some of those updates again.

I started on the 8th of oktober and on the 26th of oktober I wrote my psych. that I planned to titrate up and reach the switch within the next two weeks I was on 160 mg/d back then. Well, I also was pretty impatient.

Low

[redhead77]

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Hi taw,
I am new on these forums and to baclofen, so maybe I shouldn't post on this but am going to anyway. I have reseached this drug ad nauseum. It only lasts 4-6 hours in your system, at least at normal doses. Why not take lower doses all day? I'm a medical professional and I can still work at 5mg every 4-6. Once I have my script, I will go to 7.5 once a day and 5 the rest and onward. Titrating super slow so I can still function and continue some levels in my blood at all times.

[bleep69]

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red, there is no difference between new and "old", at least I think so. Everyone's opinion is just that, but valid.

[Grommet]

i had a bac through.....

Hey Taw,

For about the first month on Bac I was hesitant to take a full doses in the morning or even at noon for that matter - and for the same reasons as you. Over the Holidays I had time off work and I went to even doses at 7 am, 12 noon, 5 pm and 10 pm (the last dose was smaller).

While the SE's have never been a huge problem for me, I did notice a big improvement after I changed my schedule. I went back and read the threads on half-life of Bac and even did a (Lo0p inspired) graph. For me keeping a more constant level in my system and avoiding the spikes resulted in a noticeable improvement in the SE's. I am on 180 mg now and taking it 50-50-50-30. I no longer have any fear of the 50 mg dose at 7 am.

Standard disclaimer - I am only a data point of one with no statistical significance. Also, I have been on a relatively slow titration as I started Bac nearly 10 weeks ago. But I figured I would throw this out there.

[seeking_serenity]

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taw;1047865 wrote: I am uping to 60 today, but I am wondering...I don't take my first dose until around noon...then my next dose on my way home and last dose around bed...does it get out of my system then have to start over? Should it be more spread out during the day? I put off the first dose because my mornings at work are so crazy and I have to deal with money and can't have the fog....guess I need less in my while I am awake and less when I am sleeping?

taw, the good dr. says that we can avoid side effects by spacing out the doses so that the same amount is always circulating in the system. He recommends taking it 3 times a day, so an ideal dosage for someone at your level might be: 20mg at 6 a.m., 20mg at 2 p.m., and a final 20mg at 10 p.m. Of course, work demands can make those sort of ideal plans more difficult.

[taw]

i had a bac through.....

Thanks everyone! I appreciate all the feed back and support...I am going break it up more over the day....What's a little sleepiness and forgetfulness if I am going to finally be free! Good thing I am a coffee drinker!!

I am remotivated! Thank you all so much!!

[Isolde]

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Bruunhilde;1047876 wrote: But at least that means I'm not grinding, which is thanks to bac. Another good thing is I slept through my witching hours.
:bow

You're lucky, Bruunhilde (love your username, btw!). Although I remember having the same thing with bac in low level doses. Especially when I'd had a drink or 2 (which was every night still on low level bac) - I'd sleep with my mouth hanging open, and I have been a hardcore teeth clencher for as long as I can remember.
Even with a good magnesium supplement, I had to go back to using my mouth guard at night for the past few weeks. And I am still clenching so hard that the bottom of the guard (it's just for my top teeth), has teeth marks in it from my bottom teeth clenching that hard against it. And I still manage to rip up the insides of my cheeks
I even find myself clenching during the day now too, especially if I'm under any stress or getting overwhelmed at work. Time for me to start focusing on yoga and meditation again to relax!!
Anything 120mgs or above seems to have this tensing effect on me. Maybe that has something to do with the road rage as well, as I posted on Serenity's thread.

Hopefully this SE will last for you, but if you have to keep increasing the dose and you find that the reverse happens, at least you will be prepared! :H

[Isolde]

i had a bac through.....

Just a tip about the forgetfulness and brain fog - when it got really bad for me, I started supplementing again with Piracetam. It REALLY helps me be able to think straight when I'm at work. I highly recommend it. Here's a link from Amazon - Amazon.com: PRIMAFORCE PIRACETAM 500 GRAMS: Health & Personal Care. It's currently unavailable there, but this was the last brand I bought. I know it's available from other websites too. There's a trick to taking the powder (because it tastes wretched). If anyone decides to give it a try, let me know and I'll share how I get it down w/out too much yuckiness.
I'm about to re-order, as I'm getting low!

[bleep]

i had a bac through.....

taw, what's happening?