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    #46
    Baclofen

    My goal is complete abstenance, and I'm not willing to spend months drinking more than ever I can't afford to personally, financially, spiritually. I had had 3 months of relapses that disrupted my life, then the one surrounding the bac was the worst I've had for a long, long time. That was to a different level. I'm not prepared to sink my life into the ground on the promise that in 6 months, 2 years I will hit the switch. By then I'd either be dead, or at least in the gutter. When I drink I don't work, I'm not a functional alcoholic who can bumble along somehow and my life will not support me in that manner.

    I want and need sobriety now.

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      #47
      Baclofen

      interesting stuff. i had been puzzled by uk's continued daily drinking which was unusual for her. now its been pointed out i can understand it. i can see how losing the anxiety involved with the consequences of drinking would make easier to take the first drink. something for others to watch out for.
      Today is the tomorrow i worried about yesterday and it turned out fine
      Keep passing the open windows

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        #48
        Baclofen

        Hi UK

        My wife continued drinking at 80 mg a day and has continued to drink at higher doses but is stable at about 140 mg a day and not feeling any side effects or cravings. It's just a matter of time. You seem to know what you are doing. I would suggest you not get too worried if you are still drinking. It's not a competition.

        Have you tried the two day detox in Seven Weeks to Sobriety? It is a pretty heavy course of vitamins etc but it is very effective in stopping cravings over a weekend. Just a thought.

        Hang in there.
        BACLOFENISTA

        baclofenuk.com

        http://www.theendofmyaddiction.org





        Olivier Ameisen

        In addiction, suppression of symptoms should suppress the disease altogether since addiction is, as he observed, a "symptom-driven disease". Of all "anticraving medications used in animals, only one - baclofen - has the unique property of suppressing the motivation to consume cocaine, heroin, alcohol, nicotine and d-amphetamine"

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          #49
          Baclofen

          Otter

          I've stopped drinking and more or less stopped the Bac. I just wasn't interested in getting any worse, you see I had been managing whole weeks, 10 days, 2 weeks AF without bac and for me to drink every day for 7 days was pretty unusual. Something I couldn't continue since it affects my life so much. I decided Thursday was going to be my last day and it was.

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            #50
            Baclofen

            Well for some odd reason, and against what everyone else here has presumed I actually have found myself still taking quite high doses of bac. I've had my last drink last Thursday because I was simply sick of it, have been trying to use the bac to help with sleeping and found myself taking a large dose before I got any effect.

            Anyway I didn't think about alcohol yesterday or today.

            Is it the bac or is it me?have I gotten to the switch or not?Funnily enough most here had written me off, and were telling me not to post. Never mind.

            By the way I wouldn't recommend driving on bac, I don't agree with driving under the influence and bac does space you out. I'm making sure I don't drive at all until the effects from the 1 dose a day have worn off.

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              #51
              Baclofen

              Can't speak to the rest, can't say what the reason is, but I'm really glad you're headed in the right direction! I hope the rest falls into place, too. I don't doubt that it will.

              :yay:

              I hope you'll continue to post.
              Congratulations!

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                #52
                Baclofen

                Well Neva you told me not to post when I was being controversial, and made it quite clear I should only post nice things about Bac.

                Funny now I may have had some positive benefits you suddenly are supportive and friendly.

                I really don't like the attitude down here.

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                  #53
                  Baclofen

                  UK, I think you may have misinterpreted neva's post.

                  I'm glad you are seeing positive benefits, whatever the reason!
                  Having hit the switch, I now post under the username "bleep". Look forward to seeing you on the other side...

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                    #54
                    Baclofen

                    Neva made a very disparaging post over the weekend when I asked a question in another thread. She told me not to post questions on someone elses thread, and has been quite off-hand with me when I was having a bad experience.

                    In fact I found a lot of people like that with me down here, just because I was sceptical and was having a very bad time on it. Basically I stopped drinking because I wanted to, because it was just terrible and it might be that that has made the difference.

                    I have been very honest on here, when I was nervous about baring all and I didn't have to be.

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                      #55
                      Baclofen

                      Ok, sorry, didn't realise there was a history, my internet was down all weekend.

                      Your posts do come across as brutally honest, I'm sorry to hear you are having a bad time with baclofen, but glad to hear it seems to be coming right. Do you think it is the baclofen that is helping, in which case you will have to change your sig!
                      Having hit the switch, I now post under the username "bleep". Look forward to seeing you on the other side...

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                        #56
                        Baclofen

                        I don't know yet, I don't want to become bac dependent and I really was sick of drinking last week. It was me that stopped drinking, not the bac but once the AL left my system I've not really had any cravings apart from the first day(and they were bad).

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                          #57
                          Baclofen

                          There are no physical addiction worries from baclofen, although some people require a constant maintenance dose to stave off cravings.
                          Having hit the switch, I now post under the username "bleep". Look forward to seeing you on the other side...

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                            #58
                            Baclofen

                            UKB, I humbly apologize if that was the impression I gave. I mean that sincerely.
                            I was concerned about posting on a newbie's thread, particularly since she was scared.

                            I won't belabor the point by looking at the several private messages I sent you. I hope that they were also supportive. But if they didn't come across that way, I sincerely apologize.

                            I recall writing on the other thread that I thought that your experience had value, and was an important one. But if I remember incorrectly, let me set the record straight:

                            I think ALL of the experiences related to taking baclofen for suppression of addiction are EXTREMELY important. Good, bad or indifferent. ESPECIALLY the bad or indifferent.

                            I don't care how sobriety is achieved for any of us. AA, moderating, RR, cbt, detox/rehab, just-not-drinking. Those things didn't work for me, but they work for some, and I'm happy whenever someone like me finds sobriety. The struggle is difficult.

                            Finally, I am far from the bac poster-child. I'm not even sure it's going to work for me. You can rest assured that if it doesn't I'll be annoying people with that fact for a long time to come.
                            I wish for you the best... in terms of finding long term abstinence, and in life in general.

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                              #59
                              Baclofen

                              Sorry NE but I found your pms too have attitude. On the forum I was merely questioning something you told a new, scared person.

                              You then "told me" you won't have me posting questions on such a thread - as if you were some sort of mod.

                              I can post where ever I like you aren't in charge and the attitude I've had was not one of support. It was more like keeping me quiet.

                              I'm not arguing this but if I was a newbie struggling the way I had been, I'd have been right off the forum completely and at several points in the last few weeks - as well as other times I've expressed concerns re bac in the past I've thought of removing myself. As it is I'm stronger than that and there is a great section with lots of impartial support and advice. Just not here.

                              I put whatever success I've had down to removing AL from the equation, whether it's Bac or my own mental acceptance that I cannot drink. I've simply had enough.

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                                #60
                                Baclofen

                                I'm very sorry, UKblonde.
                                sincerely,
                                Karen

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