Indifference.

[Lo0p]

Indifference.

You can also just copy and paste some of the links to the scientific studies and medical evidence directly into an email and send it to your doctor. That is if you don't want to print them off and hand them to her, there's something about a stack of papers that's very impressive.

You could keep her busy for quite a while with those papers. If she's even remotely interested in the subject, this is exactly the information she's looking/asking for.

[Guest]

Indifference.

Lo0p;1086533 wrote: You can also just copy and paste some of the links to the scientific studies and medical evidence directly into an email and send it to your doctor. That is if you don't want to print them off and hand them to her, there's something about a stack of papers that's very impressive.

You could keep her busy for quite a while with those papers. If she's even remotely interested in the subject, this is exactly the information she's looking/asking for.

NHS Doctors tend not to have direct email addresses partly for privacy. I've printed off the list since some of the links have the journal names, and volume numbers on them. Should be enough for now.

[Lo0p]

Indifference.

I'm not sure if it's in the Doctors that prescribe baclofen thread but I think Dr. Jonathan Chick is a UK doctor that prescribes. Otter has his info I think.

You could read the stuff too! So you could talk to her about it.

[Guest]

Indifference.

Lo0p;1086568 wrote: I'm not sure if it's in the Doctors that prescribe baclofen thread but I think Dr. Jonathan Chick is a UK doctor that prescribes. Otter has his info I think.

You could read the stuff too! So you could talk to her about it.

I have already been in touch with said Dr in the UK.

[bleep]

Indifference.

I'm about 10 days in to my 30 days AF, and so far it's going pretty well. Easy, really. It should come as no surprise that baclofen works! A little thing such as this would have been unthinkably difficult a few months ago, and would have required a major commitment and effort.

I'm thinking of trying an experiment, and wanted people's thoughts. Knowing me only too well, it's a question of time before I forget my pills on holiday, or some other such stupid stunt. If I'm on this for life, it is going to happen at some point, despite my best efforts to prevent it.

With that in mind, I think this weekend I'm going to see what happens if I don't take baclofen. I'll have some handy, so as soon as I feel queer, I'll take it, but it will be interesting to see how long it takes before withdrawal sets in. I plan on taking it immediately I feel odd, I'm not going to wait around to see what symptoms develop. I hope from this to gauge how much time I'll have if ever I actually put myself in this situation.

What do people think? Is it a pointless and risky thing to do? I don't think it's particularly risky, as I'll have baclofen on me at all times, and it could provide me with some helpful information if I forget at some point in the future.

I'm off for a snooze right now, so will respond later...

[TracyA]

Indifference.

Bleep, you have strange ideas about how to spend an April weekend. My dad used to tell me that I was the kind of the person who would pound my head against the wall because it felt so good to finally stop. I think he might have said that about you too.

Congrats on the AF days.

[bleep]

Indifference.

Tracy, would it surprise you terribly if I told you I have actually done that. And your dad was right - it feels great to stop!

[beatle]

Indifference.

bleep;1087529 wrote: Tracy, would it surprise you terribly if I told you I have actually done that. And your dad was right - it feels great to stop!

:H

I've done it, too (well, it wasn't a head and it wasn't a wall, but same principle)

Bleep, I think your plan sounds good. Let others chime in about the risk part, but to me it doesn't sound risky as long as you have your supply ready, and you have people around you who know what you are doing (and who know what to do if you suddenly start having a seizure or something).

I think it will be an interesting experiment and you will get valuable information from it.

[PbarE]

Indifference.

bleep, if we ever start a baclofen Hall-of-Fame, you are going to be a charter member.

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Indifference.

Whateva.

Better you than me. Someone needs to be a guinea pig! (oh wait, hmmmm.)

You're a friggin' nut.
xo

[Guest]

Indifference.

I had my doubts about Bleep continuing to drink right after the switch, I think I indicated this at the time too in a post questioning it. Of course it's been stated that it's ok to drink when you reach this, but is it wise to carry on old habits?As you say Bleep, you might have times when your supply is limited. To know you can deal with some cravings, would be a good insurance.

I'm not telling anyone to chose either way. I've been in a conundrum since I found I could drink and be ok on Baclofen. That then opened moderation in my mind.....then I fancied getting drunk again. In the back of my head is "It's ok, you are fixed, you won't get addicted again".

For me I'm not willing to play that out.

[PbarE]

Indifference.

Ne/Neva Eva;1087654 wrote:
You're a friggin' nut.
xo

Actually, bleep.....NE is right. You are setting yourself up for a seizure. I would hate for anything to happen to that beautiful bleep brain.

[Bruunhilde]

Indifference.

Congrats on all the AF days logged!

I'd be concerned about risking your health bleep. I'm obviously not the expert on bac nor the most experienced and certainly not the most well read on this topic. However ... I have opinions. Like everyone here!

-What I have read is that withdrawal can be dangerous.
-I've also read that it takes 12-18 months to "rewire" the brain after the switch.
-And it takes that much time to get some healing of the AF brain and body in.

I think these things are very important to consider when you decide to play with your dose.

Personally, I'd probably stay on a maintenance dose and not hazard the OD nor the bac fix at this time. THEN I'd start titrating down to check on my cravings levels.

But then again, I'm not bleep.

:alf:

[beatle]

Indifference.

Bruunhilde;1087699 wrote: Congrats on all the AF days logged!

I'd be concerned about risking your health bleep. I'm obviously not the expert on bac nor the most experienced and certainly not the most well read on this topic. However ... I have opinions. Like everyone here!

-What I have read is that withdrawal can be dangerous.
-I've also read that it takes 12-18 months to "rewire" the brain after the switch.
-And it takes that much time to get some healing of the AF brain and body in.

-We all know withdrawal can be dangerous. But Bleep doesn't intend to go through withdrawal. He intends to find out at what point he starts to feel "odd".

-Bleep has no intention of going off baclofen permanently. In the post, he reckons he might be on it for the rest of his life. I think he just wanted to try depriving himself for a short time to see how long it would take before his body would start to react to the lack of bac.

Ok, he has an odd kind of curiosity, but one I understand (then again, I'm one of the wall bangers:bang), and as long as he is careful, it could be of some interest.

Of course the best thing to do would be to remember to pack your bac.

[bleep]

Indifference.

Thanks for the feedback.

I don't see this interfering with cravings, as it's a very temporary interruption to my baclofen supply. If it does, I'll deal with it. I basically want to know how much time I'll have when I'm on holiday in some spot in deepest darkest Africa to break into a pharmacy and locate their baclofen!

I'll let you guys know how it goes - I intend to not take baclofen from tomorrow morning. My greatest fear is what will happen if, by Saturday night, I still feel ok. I don't want to go to sleep and wake up in a seizure! I think if I have made it that long, I'll just take some, and try the experiment again by skipping the evening dose next weekend.

I won't be going anywhere without a huge chunk of baclofen in my pocket on Saturday!