Indifference.

[Bruunhilde]

Indifference.

bleep;1081127 wrote: I hear you guys on the dietary front, and on the switch front. I have no doubt my switch is here and is real. The AF thing is just a thing, really. No real point to it, other than to prove to myself that it is real. Will be a good thing to do. Starts tomorrow.

It will be an interesting experiment, especially running hand in hand with the AF one. I expect to feel quite a bit better quite soon. Instant gratification, and all that. I'll report back.
My thread is full of gloomy dieting stuff, your input is always appreciated especially when you use words like "brilliant". And I'm doing the AF/diet thing for the first time in 24 years myself. Quite the challenge!

My experience (limited tho it is to low dose) is that bac helps with appetite suppressing, but the somnolescence makes it harder to exercise. However if you DO exercise, you'll hurt less/recover more easily, is what everyone says.

bleep;1081127 wrote: I'm eating an apple as I post this. It's the first fruit, if I don't count wine, that I've eaten for years. Surprisingly, it tastes quite nice. If I count wine, I have eaten a shitload of fruit over the past few years. Got a sad feeling it doesn't count though.

Ha! I too ate apples for the first time this past week, shocking the hell out of my body. I'm not a fruit-lover unless you count wine and grapefruit juice. Wine always won in the past, but not now. You may find an apple helps when you think about that glass of wine, both are sugar and that's probably what your body wants.

If you don't lose weight the first week, you may want to cut out bread or weigh your food. I know I know, impossible to imagine but desperation breeds strange bedfellows. You and an apple, for example. Me and an apple!

PS. My damn wife wouldn't sort out the food thing either, pissed me off. Also makes it much more difficult.

[bleep]

Indifference.

Hey guys - regarding the 500+ thing:

I have been at 450mg's before, and nothing really happened. So I thought, in honour of my AF period, I would 100% make sure that I had hit the switch. This flies in the face of everything I have said, and everything I believe, about hitting the switch. I just thought I would put to bed the voices in my head regarding this. Nothing different has happened, nor do I think it anything different will happen. I just want peace, if that makes sense.

I read my old thread, and it sounded so disjointed - the experiences I had compared with what I felt, didn't gel. Random posts about going up, following on from random posts about disasters - so I'm going to try avoid that here. I realise I've done exactly that by suddenly announcing a 500+ day, so in future I'll try and document my thoughts a little more clearly.

So if it seems there are suddenly random posts regarding how I feel, that's why. Prepare for an onlsaught; I hope I am able to document my feelings accurately enough to give you guys an idea of why I do what I do. Past experience has shown this to not be the case though.

[Guest]

Indifference.

I don't think it's a 'switch' as such, for me it was just a gradual awareness that I didn't physically want to drink. Doesn't stop me missing the effect of getting drunk though, and I'm hoping to get to the bottom of these urges with my counsellor. Would prefer that to 500mg Baclofen although I'm not sure would be the most painful.

[bleep]

Indifference.

500mg's is no less or more painful than 300mg's, I'm finding. Much the same, really.

[Guest]

Indifference.

Apart from the side effects its ordering all those pills, charging through them, the cost and of course having to take so many throughout the day.

[bleep]

Indifference.

I'm finding the SE's to be no less onerous than any other level. Ploughing through the pills is an issue, and it's not cheap, it must be said. They are on prescription, but I'm still paying for them. Alas. Taking them has never been an issue,my 2 hour system has been a godsend in this regard. I have just changed it to an hourly system. I don't see it continuing for too long before I revert to my old system.

I have had my last drink for the day, so that's it for 4 weeks. I hope it will be as easy as I think it will be. My belief in where I am will be a little shaken if it's not. I plan to faithfully report the results, so you all will be able to tell. Y'all, as Lush would say...

[Bruunhilde]

Indifference.

Speaking of Lush, where the heck is she?

Bleep, I'm AF with you, for the first time in 24 years, at least 1 month and hopefully alot longer. I started Wednesday last.

[bleep]

Indifference.

Brilliant Bruun. Together then, in this and the diet...

With you in wondering what's happened to Lush?

[Bruunhilde]

Indifference.

Maybe she OD'd on MWO.

Tell me if you get the auto-neck turn to the kitchen when you think, gee I'd sure like to see what's in the fridge. Then you realize you cannot go near the fridge for alcohol nor food because you've hit your diet limit for the day.

In fact, I have some old chocolate milk in there that is beckoning to me like crack. Gonna go dump it. I need strength!!

[redhead77]

Indifference.

I think the luscious one is kinda quiet on the weekends. She probably needs a break from here. We could always have Low call her out. :H

I may soon join the diet wagon to make it a trio. I too am gaining on baclofen. Ugh. I started to work out again, but this rapid titration keeps kicking up the sides every couple of days. I might go back on my antifungal diet thing. That works super good for me. Anyway bleepster, good luck on the 500 mg. May the force be with you.

[Murphyx]

Indifference.

Lushy was around yesterday. She's probably busy with her personal trainer today.

So what happened to Florie? I see on the French forum you asked her how she was on the 16th. Did she reply by PM?

[bleep]

Indifference.

An antifungal diet sounds good. Just no mushrooms?What other funghi do I need to be aware of? I'm in, hopefully results will soon follow!

Thanks red.

Bruun, it occurs to me that I eat whenever I'm hungry. Since I'm awake 20 out of every 24 hours these days, I'm eating an extra meal. Perhaps that is the sole reason for this? One can hope it's that simple.

Regardless, a healthy period can't be a bad thing, I'm looking forward to it. It occurs to me that that might be a significant part of the whole SE thing. I enjoyed mine, because I treated each one as a positive thing. I think attitude plays a larger role in this than it is given credit for. If you are hoping for a pleasant ride, and expecting it, you are more likely to be pleasantly surprised, than if you are expecting disaster.

That being said, it is hard to be positive if you suddenly vomit your heart out, so there is certainly that to be said for the whole thing. Still, I maintain that a positive attitude throughout plays a leading role. Something to think about.

I have just had a bath and a shave. I am clean, sober, calm and ready. Bring on the next month, here we go. Let the games begin!

[bleep]

Indifference.

No Murph, no word. Last I heard she was having trouble with SE's. No word since then. Hopefully it is something else that has kept her away.

Red, unlike meals, there is always room for one more on our diet bandwagon. Hop aboard.

[Bruunhilde]

Indifference.

bleep;1081407 wrote:
Bruun, it occurs to me that I eat whenever I'm hungry. Since I'm awake 20 out of every 24 hours these days, I'm eating an extra meal. Perhaps that is the sole reason for this? One can hope it's that simple.

The more the merrier!

There is a theory that is widely endorsed that we should fast for at least 8 hours, or longer (see L0ops stuff). Fasting gives your body a rest. That could be all you need to do!

[bleep]

Indifference.

I have theory that I would go mad if I had to wait that long.

I have another theory that says this has already happened.

It would take me while to get to that - since I eat so often, I have a very small appetite. It's embarrassing to go out to dinner, and eat half the ladies portion! Perhaps I should try and work my way to it, and give it a bash...

Here goes.