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    #46
    [POLL] Did baclofen help you get rid of your alcohol problem?

    LadyHannah;1050401 wrote: Hi,

    I'm new here and have been reading about bac for the past two weeks, both the book as on this board. I'm not english so excuse me if I write a little strange.
    What I wanted to say was that the poll really does help me to reach a decision. 44% of the voters hit the switch (must be around 8 people). That is encouraging.

    I already ordered the baclofen online but it seems to take a very long time to arrive. I'm not sure if I need to do anything to "prepare". Start moderating the amount i drink, quit before I start bac? Is there anything I can do?

    Thank you everyone, you are brave to tell your story here. It has already helped me. I feel hopeful and a bit scared at the same time. But it has to change. I lost so much, my marriage, my job, my energy, my self worth...
    :new:

    LadyHannah
    Lady-- :welcome:

    I would suggest starting a new "introduction" thread, first of all. When the introductions are placed in these longer threads, they tend to get lost in the shuffle. We don't want that to happen to you! :l

    As far as preparing what to do, I'd say that it would help if you can cut back as much as possible. While it is not necessary to be AL free when starting bac, anecdotal evidence from these forums suggests that the people who struggle the most with hangovers, side effects etc. are the ones who drink the most while on it.

    Depending where you live, it can take up to 30 days to get your shipments. It took me 12 days to get an order from Goldpharma (Germany) to the U.S. Make sure you stock up on plenty of bac, and order more as a backup. It's amazing how fast you'll find yourself going through the pills, especially when you get to higher doses.

    Hang in there--this stuff works! Keep posting and letting us know how it goes for you. :h

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      #47
      [POLL] Did baclofen help you get rid of your alcohol problem?

      :thanks: for the quick reply.

      I thought I would start my own thread when I was actually starting with the treatment. No use to writing here while I'm still in my old habit.

      It's disappointing to have to wait so long, but it's good to hear that I can start preparing while waiting.

      all the best and I'll let you know when I'm ready to start.

      LadyHannah

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        #48
        [POLL] Did baclofen help you get rid of your alcohol problem?

        Kick

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          #49
          [POLL] Did baclofen help you get rid of your alcohol problem?

          Baclofen helped me
          I don't drink any more, my alcohol dependence is cured
          I don't know what the switch is but maybe I hit it. Just never drank once I started it (over a year ago)
          Sunny

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            #50
            [POLL] Did baclofen help you get rid of your alcohol problem?

            I believe there are a lot of people who have had success with Baclofen and have then just faded away, for instance, Paul who had a good result. We have had a good result so I have hit the hit the switch button.

            I just noticed there is a post on using Baclofen as early as 2006:
            https://www.mywayout.org/community/f1...ofen-5288.html

            I also take Baclofen and it has cured a lot of symptoms I have had since I gave up drinking several years ago such as restless leg, persistent cough, shakey hands, nervous agitation and illegible handwriting. (Yes, I was a mess) I recommend it for anyone who has those symptoms having stopped drinking as it is easily available by prescription if you just tell your doctor, as I did, that I had previously had it prescribed several years ago while living abroad to clear up restless leg caused from severe work stress, which was true.

            It was amazingly simple as it seems to be readily prescribable for spasm and restless leg and I have had that prescription now for over a year now at 30mg a day. Just do what Ameisen did and get a prescription first. My wife did the same. She has muscle spasm and was instantly prescribe 30 mg no questions asked and pushed that up to 60. She then said it was helping her drinking and got it up to 80 mg with the help of some articles about Baclofen. Then, we went to Dr. Chick and got it up to 100mg and use extra we buy abroad to top up. We are hoping our new specialist can push the prescription up to what we need which is 140 per day but we are most of the way there.

            Confronting a doctor head on by asking him to prescribe for alcoholism may be asking too much but asking for it for a nervous twitch is no problem. If you give up drinking for any length of time at all cold turkey I am sure you will have some symptoms which will allow you to get Baclofen without having to make up a story.
            BACLOFENISTA

            baclofenuk.com

            http://www.theendofmyaddiction.org





            Olivier Ameisen

            In addiction, suppression of symptoms should suppress the disease altogether since addiction is, as he observed, a "symptom-driven disease". Of all "anticraving medications used in animals, only one - baclofen - has the unique property of suppressing the motivation to consume cocaine, heroin, alcohol, nicotine and d-amphetamine"

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              #51
              [POLL] Did baclofen help you get rid of your alcohol problem?

              "Confronting a doctor head on by asking him to prescribe for alcoholism may be asking too much"

              But it's good for a laugh. I've tried it twice with two different doctors and the reactions have varied from boggle eyed incredulity, as if I'd asked for a half a dozen tree frogs to stuff up my bottom, to chisel eyed indignation, like Nurse Ratched catching Billy Bibbit in bed with a hooker. "What worries me, Billy, is how your mother is going to take this!"

              Strange lot, doctors...

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                #52
                [POLL] Did baclofen help you get rid of your alcohol problem?

                LOL Pony, you crack me up! Ach, the poor tree frogs! Their little red eyes foaming up on the dreaded journey.

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                  #53
                  [POLL] Did baclofen help you get rid of your alcohol problem?

                  Seethepony;1053219 wrote: "Confronting a doctor head on by asking him to prescribe for alcoholism may be asking too much"

                  But it's good for a laugh. I've tried it twice with two different doctors and the reactions have varied from boggle eyed incredulity, as if I'd asked for a half a dozen tree frogs to stuff up my bottom, to chisel eyed indignation, like Nurse Ratched catching Billy Bibbit in bed with a hooker. "What worries me, Billy, is how your mother is going to take this!"

                  Strange lot, doctors...
                  Glad I just ordered my first batch online instead of first instict to go to a walk-in clinic and ask for a script... BTW, sorry to introduce myself in the middle of a thread.. well not that sorry since I am pretty sick of making apologies and excuses for having an illness. I've gotta write a book someday about all the crazy illnesses I've invented to cover for missing work.

                  I ordered from pharmacyescrow jan 28th (now its feb 3) I used their online chat yesterday (which was very promptly answered) and they said my order would be shipped on Feb 10... don't know why so slow.. I want to get this ASAP, so I think I will make a few more orders (I only ordered 100 10mg and based on this forum that won't last long).

                  Anyhow, I started writing with a desire to rant against doctors.. why we need to lie to get a prescription for something that could essentially save our lives. Almost all the evidence I've come across suggest Baclopen to be a very promising treatment option; and especially since it's been around for so long and very safe.

                  In conducting my own research to decide whether to try it I've found persuasive scientific and anecdotal evidence (this forum being a great example). I guess there just isn't enough evidence as yet to scientifically determine that Baclofen is an effective treatment for alcohol withdrawl and dependence. And doctor's 1st rule is cause no harm, so I guess they are motivated to only support designated standard treatments. (Having a strong background in statistical analysis I can sympathize; a bit). You would think that groups like MADD would through a few bucks into a large scale scientific trial? Instead they rather persecute us and.. I start to digress.

                  This forum is very helpful and this little pole too, except I can't really tell how many people took the poll, and even though read quite a bit of testimony on here, a forum style environment is a bit difficult to get a sense how many people are currently using Baclofen and the outcome.

                  The internet has just initiated historic events in the Middle East; we have strength in our numbers. I was wondering if anyone has thought about collecting statistics on people choosing Baclofen and their success (with a bit more science than this poll).

                  I'd be willing to help with stats and other stuff, still new to this and don't even have my Bac yet.. but the idea of a drug that can flip the switch off my addiction and help my underlying anxiety is pretty miraculous. I pray it works.. MG.

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                    #54
                    [POLL] Did baclofen help you get rid of your alcohol problem?

                    Hi mg, and welcome.

                    First, do no harm - inaction is as harmful as action, in some cases. This is one of them! The medical profession's response to this has been a bit tawdry for my liking. I don't fully understand how the whole process would work though, but it seems no fires are being lit, which is shameful.

                    It would be great if someone could perform a proper analysis. It will suffer from the same sort of problems that AA does when trying to calculate theirs though. Still, worth a look.

                    Good luck with your journey - consider starting a thread so your posts don't get lost in other threads...

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                      #55
                      [POLL] Did baclofen help you get rid of your alcohol problem?

                      bleep;1053354 wrote: Hi mg, and welcome.
                      Good luck with your journey - consider starting a thread so your posts don't get lost in other threads...
                      Thanks bleep,

                      I hope to start a thread once I have thought about a scientific method to collect data. Maybe linked to some web database sort of tool...

                      My thoughts so far are that volenteers who have decided they want to start Baclofen would register to submit data regularly. I figure I need to find people who are just starting with it, but it would be continuously open for people to sign up; i.e. everybody doesn't need to start at the same time. People already on it, I am sure have lots of value for data, but would make things a lot more complicated to interprete results.

                      I'm thinking of a self-assessment type data gathering, where daily (TBD) people record simplified standardized assessment of alcohol withdrawl symptoms, if and how much alcohol they consumed, craving levels, etc.. The data could be recorded daily on paper and then periodically the participant enters the data into the database and a cummulative collection of the data would build up over time.

                      I guess it would be best if people all agreed to a standard therapy; from what I've read on here the 'standard' approach is 15mg/day T.I.D. (3x 5mg / 5mg every 8hrs) for the 1st 3 days, increased to 30mg TID the next three days, adding 20mg/day every subsequent 3 days + 20-40mg /day p.r.n. (as needed daily amount) up to the 'switch' typical 210-270mg/day. I don't know how long that level is supposed to be maintained before reducing dose at the same rate down to 30-50mg/day. Deviation from this schedule per individual differences is also useful data.

                      Just starting to think about it.. Hope my brain still works once I start my Bac and stop alcohol..

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                        #56
                        [POLL] Did baclofen help you get rid of your alcohol problem?

                        That's tricky, but I'll save the detail for your thread. People won't like being bound by a set protocol for titration. Tricky topic, in fact.

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                          #57
                          [POLL] Did baclofen help you get rid of your alcohol problem?

                          People won't like being bound by a set protocol for titration
                          I can hardly bound anybody to anything.. but a protocol for titration as an effective treatment seems to be something important to answer.. Speaking for myself, the two biggest questions I've been researching is, 1. Is Baclofen effective and 2. How to take it.

                          I plan to follow the described titration schedule to start because I don't know anything better, of course if I experience side effects or if it isn't working for me, I would consider adjusting my dose, so that's more useful data to collect; deviation from a guideline titration.

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